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Four Presidents in the last century have won 50% (Original Post) Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 OP
Yep!!! It does. n/t Pryderi Nov 2012 #1
If I Ever Meet President Obama I'll Probably Break Down In Tears ConnorMarc Nov 2012 #35
Good to know, Sekhmets Daughter! Thank you.. Cha Nov 2012 #2
You're welcome Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #3
The MOney Quote! Cha Nov 2012 #4
Yes, they would have. Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #6
and I'll bet the pundits then were just as bad as Kristol BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2012 #36
Except for the Reagan part, but yeah Care Acutely Nov 2012 #5
The Reagan part make me really sick Coyotl Nov 2012 #44
Sure does! CakeGrrl Nov 2012 #7
This shows everyone what a historic Presidency this really is. aaaaaa5a Nov 2012 #8
That leaves what, Clinton and Bush? nt. druidity33 Nov 2012 #9
Clinton didn't because of Perot. LisaL Nov 2012 #10
Here are the results. aaaaaa5a Nov 2012 #18
Nixon won with 43%? SleeplessinSoCal Nov 2012 #23
Nixon 301 ev, Humphrey 191, Wallace 46 SleeplessinSoCal Nov 2012 #24
1968 Presidential results aaaaaa5a Nov 2012 #25
the discrepancy in the Electoral College and the Popular vote was never more pronounced. SleeplessinSoCal Nov 2012 #29
Clinton never received 50% of the vote Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #22
Which Roosevelt? (Don't feel like Googling) JaneyVee Nov 2012 #11
Teddy Roosevelt wasn't President during the past century. tarheelsunc Nov 2012 #12
D'oh! 1909. Sunday nights, where my mind goes on vacation. JaneyVee Nov 2012 #16
Teddy Roosevelt was elected President in 1904. nt aaaaaa5a Nov 2012 #20
He became president after McKinley was assasinated... Blanks Nov 2012 #30
FDR nt aaaaaa5a Nov 2012 #13
Wow. Good company. JaneyVee Nov 2012 #17
See my above post. Its more rare and historic than most realize nt. aaaaaa5a Nov 2012 #19
FDR Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #21
K&R nt ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #14
Another silly, meaningless statistic - not surprising that Bill Kristol finds it significant. n/t PoliticAverse Nov 2012 #15
No not at all. pam4water Nov 2012 #26
Too bad. Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #28
One other bit of trivia that I emmadoggy Nov 2012 #27
That's even more interesting when you realize... Blanks Nov 2012 #31
Hopefully history doesn't repeat iself leftlibdem420 Nov 2012 #32
There is talk of Jeb trying a run at 2016. The Republicans have few options to go with. nt Selatius Nov 2012 #38
Actually history should have repeated itself... Blanks Nov 2012 #39
I'm such a political nerd! LOL! aaaaaa5a Nov 2012 #33
McKinley was assassinated in 1901 Art_from_Ark Nov 2012 #34
Thanks! aaaaaa5a Nov 2012 #37
Other random political trivia: Spider Jerusalem Nov 2012 #45
That is actually amazing stability given our aaaaaa5a Nov 2012 #46
This isn't the last century NoPasaran Nov 2012 #40
A century is any consecutive Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #42
Yeah, but we have people in this thread NoPasaran Nov 2012 #43
While great... Ter Nov 2012 #41
 

ConnorMarc

(653 posts)
35. If I Ever Meet President Obama I'll Probably Break Down In Tears
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 01:28 AM
Nov 2012

I'll look him in the face, tell him how much I'm so very proud of him, hug him and shed some tears.

That's how much it warms my heart.

Sekhmets Daughter

(7,515 posts)
3. You're welcome
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:23 PM
Nov 2012

But there is another kicker to this as well....the following is the rest of the quote:

"It pains me to say that, to put him in with those other three, but it's a fact." Bill Kristol

Can it get any better?

aaaaaa5a

(4,667 posts)
8. This shows everyone what a historic Presidency this really is.
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:08 PM
Nov 2012


Especially in this era, where it is much more difficult to win big elections compared to generations ago.

aaaaaa5a

(4,667 posts)
18. Here are the results.
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:36 PM
Nov 2012

1992-Clinton 43%

1996-Clinton 49%



2000-Bush 48%*

2004-Bush 51%


1912-Wilson 42%
1916-Wilson 49%



*Lost popular vote but still won the Presidency


Since 1900, Nixon was also elected twice.

1968-43%
1972-61%

Everyone else was either a one term President, (Bush Sr., Carter, Ford, LBJ, Truman, Roosevelt(Teddy), Taft, Harding, Coolidge, Hoover,) or died in office (Kennedy).

Although it should be noted that Kennedy only had 49.7% of the vote during his election in 1960. So only rounding would make him eligible for this very exclusive club assuming he won re-election in 1964, which was very much in doubt.


As everyone can see, Obama now belongs in a very exclusive historic club in United States Presidential History.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,126 posts)
24. Nixon 301 ev, Humphrey 191, Wallace 46
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:01 PM
Nov 2012

"The election results put Nixon in the White House, but under inauspicious circumstances. The third-party candidacy of George Wallace left Nixon with only 43 percent of the vote, hardly a popular mandate. Nixon received 31.7 million popular votes (301 electoral votes); Hubert Humphrey, the Democratic candidate, won 30.8 million votes (191 electoral votes); and Wallace's American Independent party drew 9.4 million votes (46 electoral votes). Nixon won what political scientists call a deviating election—that is, one in which the advantage in party identification remains with the party that lost the election. In Congress, Democrats enjoyed a 57-43 advantage in the Senate and a 243-192 advantage in the House, with Republicans picking up just five House seats to go along with their gain of six in the Senate. Nixon would face a Congress controlled by the opposition and could not rely on a party-based legislative strategy. Instead, he would have to put together shifting coalitions: sometimes center-right, linking most Republicans with the southern Democrats to pay off his debts to the South or to support his foreign policies, and sometimes center-left, with moderate Republicans joining liberal Democrats to pass his own version of modern and progressive Republican social welfare, economic, and environmental legislation. At least in domestic affairs, the Nixon presidency promised to be eclectic and unorthodox.

Read more: http://www.presidentprofiles.com/Kennedy-Bush/Richard-M-Nixon-The-1968-presidential-contest.html#ixzz2BxvyfKAN

aaaaaa5a

(4,667 posts)
25. 1968 Presidential results
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:08 PM
Nov 2012

Republican-Richard M. Nixon/Spiro Agnew 43.4%

Democratic -Hubert H. Humphrey/Edmund Muskie 42.7%

American Independent-George Wallace/Curtis LeMay 13.5%


1968 was one of the closest Presidential elections in American history. It is not remembered as a close race because Nixon held an advantage in the electoral college. But as you can see, it was a very tight election. There were multiple states that could have gone either way by just a few votes. This loss was agonizing for Humphrey and the Democrats. Many thought they flat out blew the election.

For Nixon it was considered revenge, because he thought he had won the election in 1960 that was also absurdly close. In fact there are some historians that have taken a second look at that race and now believe Nixon may have been the popular vote winner against John F. Kennedy in 1960.

1960 official results
Kennedy 49.7%
Nixon 49.5%



As I said before, what Obama has accomplished in the last 4.5 years is truly a historic and rare accomplishment in Presidential history.

Sekhmets Daughter

(7,515 posts)
22. Clinton never received 50% of the vote
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:44 PM
Nov 2012

and Bush II only did it once, in 2004....remember he lost the popular vote in 2000.

emmadoggy

(2,142 posts)
27. One other bit of trivia that I
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:33 PM
Nov 2012

heard on the radio the other day.

President Obama is now our third President in a row to be elected to two terms. This has only happened once before in our history. You have to go all the way back to Jefferson, Madison, and Monroe to find three 2-term presidents in a row.

Thought that was interesting.


Blanks

(4,835 posts)
31. That's even more interesting when you realize...
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 12:53 AM
Nov 2012

That Adams were the bookends and both of them were one term presidents.

Blanks

(4,835 posts)
39. Actually history should have repeated itself...
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 09:21 AM
Nov 2012

Both Bushs would have been one term presidents.

That way the second wouldn't have been a one term president until after 8 years of Gore and 16 years of two other presidents.

It would still be another 12 years before George W. Bush served his one term. No way Cheney is around that long.

aaaaaa5a

(4,667 posts)
33. I'm such a political nerd! LOL!
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 01:17 AM
Nov 2012

Here is a list of all of the Presidents from 1900 to 2012.

Over that time span we have had 19 Presidents. (20 if you count Mckinley who was President from 1896-1901)

8 were 2 term Presidents

12 were 1 term Presidents

Only 4 were 2 term Presidents winning more than 50% of the popular vote both times

Amazingly 2 Presidents (Clinton/Wilson) were 2 term Presidents without winning a majority of the popular vote even once.

I also find it interesting regarding how little correlation there is between a huge popular vote win and whether or not you are a 2 term President or even a successful President.

For instance, LBJ was elected with 61% of the popular vote. It was one of the biggest landslides ever. But he was a one term President. Presidents Hoover (58%) and Harding (60%) were also elected with huge majorities and were one term Presidents. Historians rank Harding and Hoover largely as failures. Nixon was elected to a second term with 61% of the popular vote and was kicked out of office just 2 years later with abysmal approval ratings.

A huge popular vote margin does not always correlate to a successful Presidency. In fact its really no factor at all in determining a Presidents success.

Hoover was elected with 58% of the vote and was a failure. By contrast, Abraham Lincoln was elected with just 40% of the vote (Alabama, Mississippi and many southern states even refused to put him on the ballot) and he is the greatest President of all time.




2012-Obama 51%
2008-Obama 53%


2004-Bush 51%
2000-Bush 48%

1996-Clinton 49%
1992-Clinton 43%

1988-Bush 54% (One Term)

1984-Reagan 59%
1980-Reagan 51%


1976-Carter 49% (One Term)

1974-Ford (One Term)

1972-Nixon 61%
1968-Nixon 43%

1964-Johnson 61% (One Term)

1960-Kennedy 50% (49.7%/Died in office)

1956-Eisenhower 57%
1952-Eisenhower 55%


1948-Truman 50% (49.5%/One Term)


1944-Roosevelt 53%
1940-Roosevelt 55%
1936-Roosevelt 61%
1932-Roosevelt 57%


1928-Hoover 58% (One Term)

1924-Coolidge 54% (One Term)

1920-Harding 60% (One Term)

1916-Wilson 49%
1912-Wilson 42%

1908- Taft 52% (One Term)

1904-Roosevelt (Teddy) 56% (One Term)


The Presidents to win 2 terms with a majority of the popular vote are in bold. As everyone can see, what Obama accomplished Tuesday night is a very historic feat and rare accomplishment in Presidential history.


Reagan, Eisenhower, FDR, Obama......................... NOT BAD!

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
34. McKinley was assassinated in 1901
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 01:28 AM
Nov 2012

Teddy Roosevelt served out the rest of McKinley's term, then was elected in his own right in 1904.

aaaaaa5a

(4,667 posts)
37. Thanks!
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 01:44 AM
Nov 2012

I have made the correction!

It was a long post. And I think I got carried away counting my 4 year cycles. LOL!
 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
45. Other random political trivia:
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 12:39 PM
Nov 2012

The sequence Clinton - Bush II - Obama represents only the second time in American history three consecutive presidents have been elected to two terms each. The last three were Jefferson, Madison and Monroe.

aaaaaa5a

(4,667 posts)
46. That is actually amazing stability given our
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 12:54 PM
Nov 2012

Current political climate. When I made my list I was a little surprised at how many non-two term Presidents there really were.

Kennedy, Ford, LBJ, Carter, Truman, Nixon, and Bush were all post WW2 Presidents who failed this task.

Sekhmets Daughter

(7,515 posts)
42. A century is any consecutive
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 10:31 AM
Nov 2012

100 year period. Also, we are in a new decade not a new century. The 21st Century began in 2001.

NoPasaran

(17,291 posts)
43. Yeah, but we have people in this thread
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 12:28 PM
Nov 2012

Going back to Teddy Roosevelt's presidency. . . more than a century ago however you figure it.

 

Ter

(4,281 posts)
41. While great...
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 09:37 AM
Nov 2012

Obama is the only one in 100 years to win re-election with less of a percentage and EV's than his first run.

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