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Attempted Military Coup D'etat (Original Post) NNN0LHI Nov 2012 OP
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar Bok_Tukalo Nov 2012 #1
Wonder if that's how JFK thought about it arthritisR_US Nov 2012 #25
Nah, methinks just self-destruction combined with folks in the CIA club JCMach1 Nov 2012 #2
Why bother? They already control the government. Armstead Nov 2012 #3
More of a military coup D'Snatch... Agnosticsherbet Nov 2012 #4
oh stop already, as if there wasn't a pickle involved. n/t Whisp Nov 2012 #11
Results of the jury: AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #12
LOL! The word police are gonna be butthurt now! n/t backscatter712 Nov 2012 #21
Wow! Someone alerted on that? abelenkpe Nov 2012 #31
"Silly" is right. AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #33
Coup d'Snatch - :rofl: - n/t coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #18
Awesome!! underthematrix Nov 2012 #29
Didn't they already make that movie, "Seven Days Surprise in October" or something? leveymg Nov 2012 #5
Well, until I read about Cofer Black's involvement BlueToTheBone Nov 2012 #6
I wondered that...or something to that effect Horse with no Name Nov 2012 #7
Yes, luckily for Obama they had the honeypot all set before hand davepc Nov 2012 #8
that's what freepers are hoping grasswire Nov 2012 #9
OMG, they did, I saw that. :) aletier_v Nov 2012 #24
Did the President catch on? Cracklin Charlie Nov 2012 #10
My (current) theory ... Mme. Defarge Nov 2012 #20
your current theory makes a lot of sense.... DonRedwood Nov 2012 #26
The FBI and the CIA have been mutually incompatible for a long time. Lint Head Nov 2012 #13
A "military" coup? What was the "uniform of the day" while staging the coup? Nudity? Just medals? Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2012 #14
if it was just medals dlwickham Nov 2012 #16
Huh? Barack_America Nov 2012 #15
No erpowers Nov 2012 #17
+1 hrmjustin Nov 2012 #27
As a guy just a tad older than him....>>>> Tonkinlievet Nov 2012 #19
From what I can see, after 20 years, military Brass still not been able to get a handle on e-mail - haele Nov 2012 #30
Lots of recent ousters of high ranking military and intel personnel. Snarkoleptic Nov 2012 #22
crossed my mind trailmonkee Nov 2012 #23
I know that Ron Paul had many military personnel on his side... Fire Walk With Me Nov 2012 #28
A bunch of modern courtesans? abelenkpe Nov 2012 #32
Here's a link to a spine-tingling US Army War College piece on a fictional 2012 US Military Coup. Snarkoleptic Nov 2012 #34

Bok_Tukalo

(4,323 posts)
1. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 01:13 PM
Nov 2012

... and sometimes a powerful man boinking a hottie is banal .... well, most of the time, now that I think about.

JCMach1

(27,574 posts)
2. Nah, methinks just self-destruction combined with folks in the CIA club
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 01:14 PM
Nov 2012

who didn't appreciate the General! He has not been liked very well as DCI.

 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
12. Results of the jury:
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 01:52 PM
Nov 2012

The jury voted 1-5 to LEAVE IT, but Jury #4 had a different view:

ALERTER'S COMMENTS: Subject line contains an ugly euphemism for female genitalia.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: Meh. I'm a woman and this doesn't offend me.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT and said: I agree with the alerter. We should not tolerate these types of euphemisms and this one in particular crosses the line.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: Are you sure this dosen't mean "snatch" such as "taking" you know, I just "snatched" your popcorn?
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: Euphemisms for female genitalia are not ugly except to those who want to believe it to be so.

BlueToTheBone

(3,747 posts)
6. Well, until I read about Cofer Black's involvement
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 01:25 PM
Nov 2012

with Rmoney, I would have said, Nah...but they were sure they had stolen/bought the election and Betrayus has always had his own agenda. It sounds like they (he and Allen) were in a special double dating situation that covered even greater sins.

davepc

(3,936 posts)
8. Yes, luckily for Obama they had the honeypot all set before hand
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 01:27 PM
Nov 2012

To spring his trap on the conspirators before they could act!

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
9. that's what freepers are hoping
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 01:36 PM
Nov 2012

they say a military coup is the only thing that can save the country.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
10. Did the President catch on?
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 01:37 PM
Nov 2012

And foil the plot, leading to the public shaming of Petraeus on Veteran's Day? It just seems the sex angle is not enough to lead to such a dramatic fall by a leading government official. I feel like the sex/affair part of the story is a distraction. Will it get more salacious to keep us from looking for the real story?

Mme. Defarge

(8,044 posts)
20. My (current) theory ...
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 02:59 PM
Nov 2012


Benghazi was the October Surprise. It went terribly wrong.

The bad information fed to State was deliberate.

Romney was all over it the moment the story broke. And, it was true, it would not have happened had he been POTUS.

Obama knew exactly what was going on by the time of the second debate, and was daring Romney to "go there" when he said "Please proceed, Governor." Obama was not taunting Mitt because he knew he was leading him into a semantic trap. Romney pounced on what he believed was a (forced) blunder by the president. Obama's "gotcha" moment over wording was just the way it played out in the debate.

Hillary, and also Bill, understood what had gone down. This might have fueled Bill's passion in campaigning for Obama.

The exposure and humiliation of the general is the beginning of the great retribution.

IMO

Lint Head

(15,064 posts)
13. The FBI and the CIA have been mutually incompatible for a long time.
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 01:55 PM
Nov 2012

Sharing information and taking credit for accomplishments has become ingrained. I have a relative who was in the CIA and cannot talk about what he did. He did say one time, very seriously, that if the American people knew exactly what they did there would be a 'real' problem with American society and that some things will never be known. Information and evidence is destroyed absolutely and peoples memories are subject to manipulation and mistakes.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
14. A "military" coup? What was the "uniform of the day" while staging the coup? Nudity? Just medals?
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 02:02 PM
Nov 2012

Army issue socks?

dlwickham

(3,316 posts)
16. if it was just medals
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 02:06 PM
Nov 2012

that would be a lot of piercings

saw a picture of him in his dress blues and the he has a crap load of medals and whatever else those things may be called

 

Tonkinlievet

(12 posts)
19. As a guy just a tad older than him....>>>>
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 02:54 PM
Nov 2012

I can see where it just might be a "big head/little head" conflict issue...
I'm just amazed that they were ALL foolish enough to actually leave an Email trail...

haele

(12,679 posts)
30. From what I can see, after 20 years, military Brass still not been able to get a handle on e-mail -
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:41 AM
Nov 2012

not to mention computers in general. Not the enlisted, mind you, but it's the brass and policy makers that keep getting into trouble with computers. From not having protocol on handling electronic data - like wiping hard drives on field and admin laptops when a unit gets ready to transition back stateside without backing up all the reports and artifacts that had been kept on them during deployment, to not reminding people - especially the brass - that e-mail is like a recorded phone call, and just because you send it to the "trash", doesn't mean you've permanently deleted it...

Haele

Snarkoleptic

(6,002 posts)
22. Lots of recent ousters of high ranking military and intel personnel.
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:51 AM
Nov 2012

And let's not forget Dick Cheney has deep roots in the Pentagon including many 'leave behinds'. He also purchased a home within a mile of the Pentagon.

Lest we forget Prescott Bush and the "Business Plot" coup attempt-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_plot

 

Fire Walk With Me

(38,893 posts)
28. I know that Ron Paul had many military personnel on his side...
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:01 AM
Nov 2012

...I'd wondered if because he was so silent all of this time, if something stinky was planned. Looks like I was wrong, and what a pleasure for him to have gone silent all of this time.

Snarkoleptic

(6,002 posts)
34. Here's a link to a spine-tingling US Army War College piece on a fictional 2012 US Military Coup.
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:18 AM
Nov 2012

It's an eerie piece of fiction written in 1992 and entitled "The Origins of the US Military Coup of 2012".

The link is a 1.3mb pdf document, so proceed with caution.
www.carlisle.army.mil/ usawc/ parameters/ Articles/ 2010winter/ Dunlap_Jr.pdf


The author's Wikipedia page says-

Dunlap is currently a professor at Duke University School of Law, where he teaches courses on national security law and the use of force in international law, among other topics.[2]

Dunlap wrote an essay in 1992 called The Origins of the American Military Coup of 2012[3] in which he asserts that the blurring of the military role of the armed forces into civilian missions might be dangerous to democracy and civilian government.
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