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?'You probably remember back in September when Jimmy Carter's grandson, James Carter IV, was instrumental in digging up and helping publicize Romney's 47% video. We all enjoyed the poetic justice of the moment that very likely contributed to Romney's defeat.
Now James Carter IV is at it again, this time digging up actual audio of Republican strategist Lee Atwater explaining the "Southern Strategy":'
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/11/13/1161225/-Jimmy-Carter-s-grandson-strikes-again
liberal N proud
(60,346 posts)and who could blame him?
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)6502
(249 posts)I remember Jimmy Carter winning when I was young.
I grew up Christian. The son of deacons.
Carter was and is a deacon.
The job of a deacon, when you sum it up is to help people. When they are sick and shut in, it is the deacons who act --- no not just act, but are compelled to act.
I grew up with that tradition and I saw in Carter a true deacon.
I am not Christian anymore. I am an Atheist now.
But I still have the same feeling about Carter.
In every thing he did as President. And everything he did after (Habitat for Humanity), I can always respect him.
And his son... :::smile::: a chip off the old block. He warms my heart just like his dad still does.
Godspeed, Carter IV.
johnlucas
(1,250 posts)Jimmy Carter could have broken up the building Southern Strategy when he got elected in 1976.
He got the racist South on his side despite him not being a racist.
The Republicans hadn't fully locked down that Solid South quite yet.
They HAD to make him look weak so they could lock down that strategy.
4 years later Ronald Reagan gets in there & locks the Southern Strategy down for good.
And we all had to suffer for the past 30 years because of it.
James Carter IV will avenge the defeat of James Carter II & I'm glad that he's doing it.
Chickens are coming home to roost for the Republican Party.
It's time to slay this dragon once & for all.
John Lucas
calimary
(81,500 posts)James Carter IV - Avenger!
RegieRocker
(4,226 posts)lump all republicans together even though they vote for these knuckleheads.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)libdem4life
(13,877 posts)internet, texting, emails...who can keep up? Ooooo...accountability? What's that about?
LeftInTX
(25,556 posts)Meandering1
(36 posts)With Lee Atwater we saw a monster. A powerful, talented, greedy and ego driven bastard who broke all the standards of decency while tearing the hearts out of many innocent people.
Then came his terminal cancer...
Can't take it w/ya, eh Lee?
and he finally saw himself standing before God in all his shame. He even wrote about this during his final days.
I can't quite bring myself to feel sorry for Lee but his sense of personal shame must have been a catastrophe.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)So much better now with Rove.
BouzoukiKing
(163 posts)...wasn't fit to lick the sweat off one of Atwater's monstrously engorged balls.
That might be why there was so little pleasure in watching Atwater's recanting and his drawn out death. It was tough to muster up anything but sorrow, for most of that wasted life.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts).....and NOT feel a sense of pride...
BouzoukiKing
(163 posts)...he will be squealing like a stuck pig.
Just a hunch.
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)Oh please... leave gods out of it. There's no need for the supernatural here.
He stood before US!
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)It's not about whether you believe in a God; rather, it's about viewing it from rove's perspective, a self-confessed believer. In the end, HE will be faced with HIS beliefs system ... and that would be HIS answering to HIS God.
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)Last edited Tue Nov 13, 2012, 11:02 PM - Edit history (1)
And this is the shit the GOP is running with, just change the language to fit the times but it all means the same damn thing.
These people need to be put down like a rabid raccoon.
At the same time, I thank all that is good in this world, for all the people who have evolved beyond this.
To them I say - THANK-YOU!!!
mean 'rabid raccoon?' If so, that's close to what they are, but raccoons are so cute. So I'll go with rabid sewer slime.
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)myrna minx
(22,772 posts)malaise
(269,177 posts)I'm betting he's looking for audio of them plotting against his grandpa.
Go Jimmy Go!!!!
dotymed
(5,610 posts)What the GOP and Reagan did to him was despicable. They tried this with Obama. He jabbed back on some things. I pray second term Obama is '08 candidate Obama. We might have to "make him."
malaise
(269,177 posts)He's having the last laugh - after all his grandson helped to defeat them.
chalky
(3,297 posts)n/t
The Old Creak
(238 posts)and God bless southwest Georgia. That's where me and Jimmy are from
brer cat
(24,610 posts)We moved to the Atlanta area when I was a child, but I have fond memories of everything but the gnats.
oldbanjo
(690 posts)Cairo
Iwillnevergiveup
(9,298 posts)has the whole sorry story of Atwater, if you have the stomach for it.
MissNostalgia
(159 posts)I watched this film in 2008, and its been in my thoughts ever since 2010 election year because the Southern Strategy is now the National Strategy and main GOP platform.
dmr
(28,349 posts)nichomachus
(12,754 posts)But they grind exceedingly fine.
russspeakeasy
(6,539 posts)WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)davidwparker
(5,397 posts)CakeGrrl
(10,611 posts)Paul Ryan says 'urban'.
Same code, different packaging.
alfredo
(60,077 posts)Philadelphia, Mississippi. That was a very blatant use of the Southern Strategy. He was endorsing what happened there.
GiaGiovanni
(1,247 posts)Thank you, James Carter,
And I'm utterly disgusted.
femrap
(13,418 posts)that Lee Atwater was KKKarl Rove's teacher.
Lee Atwater died of a brain tumor. Karma.
Samantha
(9,314 posts)He also apologized to everyone he had hurt. Can you imagine that, being on your deathbed and having to worry about all those you had hurt during your lifetime?
http://news.spreadit.org/lee-atwaterlee-atwater-s-deathbed-confession/
"Lee Atwater:Lee Atwaters Deathbed Confession Lee Atwater who was George HW Bushs political consultant and strategist has his life story told on PBS Frontline earlier tonight.Lee Atwater who was also Karl Roves mentor was once called the most evil man in America, because he often aimed to completely destroy his opponents character.Lee Atwaters Deathbed Confession before dying of tumors is as followed:
'I was wrong to follow the meanness of Conservatism. I should have been trying to help people instead of take advantage of them. I dont hate anyone anymore. For the first time in my life I dont hate somebody. I have nothing but good feelings toward people. Ive found Jesus Christ Its that simple. Hes made a difference.'"
Sam
femrap
(13,418 posts)and all of his acolytes will do the same and atone.
I always try not to hate...and it's difficult. Especially during the 2nd term of W. But I never act on hate. I may fantasize like in a movie...but never act on it.
Look at all of the Southerners who are demanding Secession! All I thought of doing was moving to Vermont...or better yet France. I still think of moving to France....great food and an appreciation of the quality of life.
But I actually think things are looking UP here in the US...well, most of it. Now I want to move to Colorado and get mellow.
Jack Sprat
(2,500 posts)I could see Rove atoning in the same way if faced with death with time for reflection the same way Atwater did. But if he dies of old age or suddenly (like a massive heart attack), then you can forget about it. It's not happening. All those rightwing cats like Rove, Limbaugh, Norquist, etc, are making huge income off being cruel bastards. Surely you know that Limbaugh doesn't actually believe that stuff he spews over the mike. He's just willing to say anything for millions per year knowing he couldn't make an honest income doing anything else.
femrap
(13,418 posts)they all have evil hearts full of hatred. And they make $$ off of that cruel heart. It's easy for them.
They may spew a few shreds that are extreme, but it's not much of a stretch for them.
Limpballs looks like he'll explode at any moment. Rove will probably have some sort of disease like Atwater. I wonder what Coulter will endure. Her last book isn't selling...that is a true turn in the tide of America given that my local library would order 2 or 3 copies of each of her books. I used to hide them in various places of the library! I imagine they did the same with my Hightower and Begeant books.
Samantha
(9,314 posts)make themselves contemptible. And so I cannot help but hold them in contempt. Karl Rove was Atwater's protege. He learned his dirty tricks at the foot of the master, the man also known as the dirtiest man in politics. He charted his own course.
And the Southerners demanding secession ... haven't they read the Constitution, or even reviewed history lessons? I think this must be a PR maneuver more so than anything else because I cannot believe that everyone coming out for secession thinks it is actually doable.
Sam
femrap
(13,418 posts)this letter to TX about seceding from the Union. LOL!
I will hold someone in contempt instead of hating them...thank you.
Samantha
(9,314 posts)good or evil (words to that effect)? He then said the Republicans play to the lesser side of us human beings. That is so true. Just think about all of the despicable words and actions they have prompted people in our society to say or do.
I refuse to allow anything a Republican says change my nature. I just am comfortable being the person I decided a long time ago to be. So that is just something for you to think about: don't let others' bad behavior make you behave badly.
Nice talking to you.
I had seen that letter and loved it, but one cannot read it too many times!
Sam
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)Is there audio or some way of knowing he actually did this. I mean someone can write it for him, y'know. I don't believe it without proof.
It's like all those famous atheists who supposedly come to god at the last minute. Rarely actually happened.
Samantha
(9,314 posts)He died many years ago, and that story broke soon after. I did a google search and found the story with no problem, so if you really want to confirm the accuracy of it, I imagine it would not be too difficult to do.
Sam
olegramps
(8,200 posts)Samantha
(9,314 posts)There is no question Rove's presence in politics has tremendously hurt this Country. But he is simply a political strategist and his reach has been limited. Cheney was the Vice President for eight years, and for the first few years, many asserted he was actually running the show. In that position, his reach extended much farther than Rove's. There is no question, however, that the depth of his political depravity was just as deep as Rove's; it is just that he had more power and his actions adversely impacted so many others beyond our borders. I am thinking of all the innocent Iraqi people who died as a result of the preemptive war on their country by our Country and I remain ashamed for this Country and what it did to that country.
Sam
Son of Gob
(1,502 posts)Bucky
(54,068 posts)I wonder how BB King feels about those duets now.
sheshe2
(83,925 posts)James all I have to say is keep it coming!
ProudProgressiveNow
(6,129 posts)JPZenger
(6,819 posts)Bucky
(54,068 posts)It's like watching a new star being born.
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)It's time for all America to honor Jimmy Carter as one of the greats
For too long any democrat president has been margionalized and abused.
Time way past due to place the democrats in the top 10, and drop the Reagan's, Bush's to the bottom ten trash can where they belong
and to keep reminding people in 16 when Jeb attempts to come back.
Atwater/Rove/Karen Hughes/Ed Gillespie,etc. PURE UNADULTRATED EVIL.
Jimmy Carter, day in, day out, lives the life that the awipe repubs yap about endlessly but never follow.
And the best thing is, Jimmy Carter is still alive and doing wonderful things every day, and is seeing his political "resurrection"
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HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)juajen
(8,515 posts)The ballroom was filled with democrats from all over Nashville, the big wigs, and the worker bees. This is a full face 8 x 10 photo of him and me, and it is buried somewhere in my house. I hope I find it before I die as I would love to post it on DU. He was such a charming and sincere man. The goodness shone out of his eyes. I have loved him ever since and am distraught that I cannot put my fingers on that photo.
Overseas
(12,121 posts)armed_and_liberal
(246 posts)I grew up with this shit. What racism wasn't spoken was implied. It still is to this day. In my 55 years of life I haven't met a southern Republican yet that wasn't a goddamned racist. Jimmy the 4th is doing a great service to our country and cause. I hope to live long enough to see him elected POTUS.
JI7
(89,271 posts)JoeyT
(6,785 posts)I'm sure there's a Republican down here somewhere that isn't a racist, but I've never met him/her either.
brush
(53,871 posts)James Carter IV uses the truth to expose and trip up repugs instead of dishonest trickery like O'keefe uses in his phonied up videos.
Diclotican
(5,095 posts)sasha031
A one mans crusade, to get it right.. And a decent crusade.. He have a lot to step up to - as his grand father was a gigant - if given a lousy hand as president (he was elected the same year I was born, and for some reason he have always been a person i admire)
I wonder, is it possible for him, to get all the way up to the White House some day?.. I somehow suspect United States need politicians that is willing to fight for all, not just for the few... And mr Carter himself (his grand-daddy) have after he was stepping down doing great things to the humanity..
Diclotican
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)-snip-
Sidney Blumenthal has speculated that, had Atwater lived, he would have run a stronger re-election campaign for Bush than the President's unsuccessful 1992 effort against Bill Clinton and Ross Perot
-snip-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Atwater
Raine
(30,540 posts)mfcorey1
(11,001 posts)madrchsod
(58,162 posts)urgk
(1,043 posts)armed_and_liberal
(246 posts)Tommy_Carcetti
(43,198 posts)There's just a beautiful sense of poetic justice of it all.
Please proceed
(59 posts)Was the email James got from his grandfather after he released the 47% tape. Is it irony that a Carter tips over the GOP apple cart after they trashed Jimmy for so many years? Probably hate Jimmy because one of his causes is fair elections, he's so anti-GOP
Texin
(2,598 posts)It's more a southern mindset which has been in effect since the loss of their slaves in the Civil War, made into rethuglican doctrine by men like Atwater and his acolyte Rove. Granted it's worked since the mid-sixties to keep the South solidly rethuglican for now on four decades, but Johnson's Great Society had a lot to do with locking this in place because of the advances that all black, poor and elderly attained through that legilsation. This locked down the South for the rethugs all those many years ago, and they haven't had to think about really running any real races down there in all that time, which left them plenty of time to bring in people like Frank Luntz and Peggy Noonan to craft a clever and cynical rebranding of their "message" to the other areas of the country to hoodwink them into thinking that the rethugs were now mellower and more progressive, and had their economic interests at heart. Well that 47% video - along with eight years of the Bush economy and the last four years of the rethuglican stall in Washington have created a strong resistence to their so-called message. Now demographics are their worst enemy and will be from now on out. With every passing day, new voters are emerging and they won't be suffering the rethuglican fools lightly. Rethugs have made it abundantly clear what they think of the average American citizen and we're clearly not in their 1% Class of those that matter to them. And if they think that doublespeak to the Latinos, Asians, elderly, female, LBGT, those in poverty, is going to make us putty in their hands, they'd better think again. We've got their numbers. And we're not going to be sweetalked into falling for them again.
Uncle Joe
(58,424 posts)Thanks for the thread, sasha.
lalalu
(1,663 posts)To actually hear it being said by Atwater is something else. A big thanks to Jimmy Cater IV
ProfessionalLeftist
(4,982 posts)Jenny_92808
(1,342 posts)the 1st couple times I tried to open it. I waited awhile and tried it again and now it works. Keep trying.
The southern strategy is despicable!
AikidoSoul
(2,150 posts)This is a very powerful post.
Thank you very much Sasha 031.
ErikJ
(6,335 posts)Introduced by Newt I think last year.