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sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:27 PM Nov 2012

Top Georgia GOP Lawmakers Host Briefing on Secret Obama Mind-Control Plot

President Obama is using a Cold War-era mind-control technique known as "Delphi" to coerce Americans into accepting his plan for a United Nations-run communist dictatorship in which suburbanites will be forcibly relocated to cities. That's according to a four-hour briefing delivered to Republican state senators at the Georgia state Capitol last month.

On October 11th at a closed-door meeting of the Republican caucus convened by the body's majority leader, Chip Rogers, a tea party activist told Republican lawmakers that Obama was mounting this most diabolical conspiracy. The event—captured on tape by a member of the Athens-based watchdog Better Georgia (who was removed from the room after 52 minutes)—had been billed as an information session on Agenda 21, a non-binding UN agreement that commits member nations to promote sustainable development. In the eyes of conservative activists, Agenda 21 is a nefarious plot that includes forcibly relocating non-urban dwellers and prescribing mandatory contraception as a means of curbing population growth. The invitation to the Georgia state Senate event noted the presentation would explain: "How pleasant sounding names are fostering a Socialist plan to change the way we live, eat, learn, and communicate to 'save the earth.'"
About 23 minutes into the briefing, Searcy explained how President Obama, aided by liberal organizations like the Center for American Progress and business groups like local chambers of commerce, are secretly using mind-control techniques to push their plan for forcible relocation on the gullible public:


They do that by a process known as the Delphi technique. The Delphi technique was developed by the Rand Corporation during the Cold War as a mind-control technique. It's also known as "consensive process." But basically the goal of the Delphi technique is to lead a targeted group of people to a pre-determined outcome while keeping the illusion of being open to public input.

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012/11/georgia-senate-gets-52-minute-briefing-united-nations-takeover


The GOP have gone completely insane.

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Top Georgia GOP Lawmakers Host Briefing on Secret Obama Mind-Control Plot (Original Post) sufrommich Nov 2012 OP
Liars, and Teapots, and Bores! Oh, my! struggle4progress Nov 2012 #1
These people are nuts. Agnosticsherbet Nov 2012 #2
On the plus side, we can use this to turn Conservatives against The Chamber of Commerce. n/t Ian David Nov 2012 #3
The GOP has some very very serious mental issues! n/t RKP5637 Nov 2012 #4
Like he took our guns away? Turbineguy Nov 2012 #5
Shh, some of us still have ours nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #19
And built FEMA concentration camps! N/T Grins Nov 2012 #71
Maybe secession isn't all that bad an idea for Georgia. n/t RKP5637 Nov 2012 #6
It's a little known fact that when Bob Barr was still in congress Blue_Tires Nov 2012 #29
The reason that kind of crap works for republicans is that they can't imagine minds more complicated patrice Nov 2012 #7
You're making my head hurt TrogL Nov 2012 #69
Yeah, me too. I'm dizzy from re-reading that. I'll work on it again sometime. nt patrice Nov 2012 #73
Won't work. Downwinder Nov 2012 #8
uh buoy glinda Nov 2012 #9
The Onion? Satire? Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2012 #10
Republicans need to be rounded up and put in these: SpartanDem Nov 2012 #11
I prefer this version. Heywood J Nov 2012 #39
kick to find it later n/t hootinholler Nov 2012 #12
OK Georgia The Wizard Nov 2012 #13
Hey, not so hard on us! trishtrash Nov 2012 #32
Can we not blame a lot of this GA GOP insanity on the statewide use of voting machines? We People Nov 2012 #36
I spent 14 years in Ga..... Plucketeer Nov 2012 #45
Dammit, they're on to us! PD Turk Nov 2012 #14
Does the ACA have a mental health prrovision? n/t Control-Z Nov 2012 #15
Yup, Operation Delphi you silly nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #17
Who violated OpSec? WHO? nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #16
Ironic PD Turk Nov 2012 #18
Can't you see? President Obama's only wearing the glasses to fool Lloyd Braun! Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2012 #20
Jesus on toast. They mixed up the lead paint chips and hifiguy Nov 2012 #21
Batshit crazy. sarcasmo Nov 2012 #22
Shit, they're on to us! Everyone, pack up your Tesla coils and meet me back at "The Ranch." Bucky Nov 2012 #23
lol. nt sufrommich Nov 2012 #24
No way am I giving up my Tesla coil! blogslut Nov 2012 #25
So that box from USPS in the corner is a tesla coil? nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #27
Nope. They sent you a Theremin. You've been supposed to have been practicing all this time. Ikonoklast Nov 2012 #57
Gotcha nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #58
I'm sorry, Dave! I can't let you do that! LongTomH Nov 2012 #52
You have got to be kidding me. PDJane Nov 2012 #26
It's almost a shame that Obama can't control their minds ... surrealAmerican Nov 2012 #28
I tried watching the video d_r Nov 2012 #30
*lmao* Hydra Nov 2012 #31
Wow. Glamrock Nov 2012 #33
I've actually run Delphi groups - seriously Patiod Nov 2012 #34
EXACTLY! AikidoSoul Nov 2012 #74
These are the same type of people who think Obama is controlling the weather with HAARP. Incitatus Nov 2012 #83
Wait...the US Chamber of Commerce is in on this nefarious plot? DebbieCDC Nov 2012 #35
LOCAL Chambers of Commerce. Fuddnik Nov 2012 #46
Obviously, they cannot deal with the fact that THEY LOST We People Nov 2012 #37
And, the presentation ended with, "So, don't let them out-Fox us." Coyotl Nov 2012 #38
All the GOP are on a huge Acid Trip and they can't get off... crunch60 Nov 2012 #40
Message deleted by the DU Administrators crunch60 Nov 2012 #41
"Cats Who Stare At Freepers" hifiguy Nov 2012 #70
SETI needs to turn their antennas towards GA hockeynut57 Nov 2012 #42
I don't see too many people in the audience for that presentation. mrsadm Nov 2012 #43
Mind control. Ikonoklast Nov 2012 #60
In other news from Georgia: coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #44
OMG. That image! Now I gotta clean my keyboard! Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2012 #84
Instant frontrunner for Derp Of The Year Award WilliamPitt Nov 2012 #47
Reagan turned them loose, now they're running the place. Fuddnik Nov 2012 #48
I think it started with Reagan flamingdem Nov 2012 #53
ROFL! These folks have been watching too many old Cold War conspiracy movies gollygee Nov 2012 #49
The Republicans are telling the truth about what THEY ARE DOING TO US. yardwork Nov 2012 #50
And after NC, we were the second closest red state for Obama. dawg Nov 2012 #51
These guys are Looney Tunes and Merry Melodies.... LongTomH Nov 2012 #54
They're against this??? >>>> Roland99 Nov 2012 #55
I saw keep the suburbanites where they are. geardaddy Nov 2012 #56
Idiots. Delphi is not a "mind control technique". drm604 Nov 2012 #59
The first rule of Delphi... MustBeTheBooz Nov 2012 #61
"Both sides are the same". How much of this RW nuttery do we have to witness for this meme to die? NYC Liberal Nov 2012 #62
re: Top Georgia GOP Lawmakers Host Briefing on Secret Obama Mind-Control Plot allan01 Nov 2012 #63
Oh hell, Chip Rogers is the representative of my district, RebelOne Nov 2012 #64
I can understand his position. He has a lot to fear. olegramps Nov 2012 #68
Eventually the GOP will alienate more and more people Andy Stanton Nov 2012 #65
It's only a matter of time before we have them all under our control. Ganja Ninja Nov 2012 #66
They were warned about those shock treatments. They thought it was a brain detector. olegramps Nov 2012 #67
You might be able to avert the plot by wearing tin-foil hats every time you appear in public. tanyev Nov 2012 #72
I was on a bus coming back from a conference to my hotel, phylny Nov 2012 #75
'It's also known as "consensive process." ' Matariki Nov 2012 #76
To the Georgia GOP: Doesn't this seem a little "over the top" to you? n/t are_you_serious_1234 Nov 2012 #77
I've been trying to tell you , it's a big plot, a sinister plot, a diabolical plot , crunch60 Nov 2012 #78
These folks should be on medication and institutionalized. blackspade Nov 2012 #79
Ironically, in _Manufacturing Consent_, Noam Chomsky tblue37 Nov 2012 #80
Absolutely beyond comment defacto7 Nov 2012 #81
Another name for the secret mind-control technique is called "convincing." This is serious, people. enki23 Nov 2012 #82
.. unhappycamper Nov 2012 #85
sufrommich Diclotican Nov 2012 #86

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
29. It's a little known fact that when Bob Barr was still in congress
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:43 PM
Nov 2012

he hosted similar chats and discussions behind closed doors to his most extreme followers...

Just replace "Obama" with "Clinton/Reno" and "WTC 7" with "Murrah Federal Building"

patrice

(47,992 posts)
7. The reason that kind of crap works for republicans is that they can't imagine minds more complicated
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:39 PM
Nov 2012

than their own, so "mind control" is a likely possibility to them, easy to believe that others' minds are being controlled, because they have no idea of what they're talking about when it comes to the word "mind". They don't know that they don't know and they can't even imagine that they don't know what they don't know, so they underestimate others frequently and by a great deal.

The Wizard

(12,549 posts)
13. OK Georgia
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:01 PM
Nov 2012

secede already and get off the dole. We should have stopped paying for reconstruction long ago.

trishtrash

(74 posts)
32. Hey, not so hard on us!
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:59 PM
Nov 2012

Georgia actually turned out very strongly for Obama compared to our neighboring states. Problem is that our pathetic state government is overwhelming republican and their favorite pastime is redrawing all legislative districts that have the slightest tendency to go democratic.

We People

(619 posts)
36. Can we not blame a lot of this GA GOP insanity on the statewide use of voting machines?
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 08:29 PM
Nov 2012

I cannot imagine how else they were even able to secure the majority in the state legislature. They didn't get that from the Dems for a good 15 years after the Reagan Democrats phenomenon, right?

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
45. I spent 14 years in Ga.....
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:19 PM
Nov 2012

I can't tell you how GLAD I am that I gravitated to California - even more so now that the Dems RULE the state legislatures! WOOHOO! And the people even voted for a tax hike on themselves! Outstanding!

Now if we could just oust this GOP rubber stamper we have in DC. Devin Nunes is as useless (save for his love of his high-dollar constituents) to the average Joe in his district as a snow blower would be. (hint: we've seen snow here - once - in about 40 years) I can't fathom a whole legislature full of dolts like Nunes.

PD Turk

(1,289 posts)
14. Dammit, they're on to us!
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:01 PM
Nov 2012

Well, it was fun while it lasted, but it looks like the jig is up, we've been found out.

PD Turk

(1,289 posts)
18. Ironic
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:11 PM
Nov 2012

I find it highly ironic that this bunch thinks everybody but them is under mind control via technique from the Rand corporation

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,199 posts)
20. Can't you see? President Obama's only wearing the glasses to fool Lloyd Braun!
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:12 PM
Nov 2012

I got this from the institute! The institute!

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
21. Jesus on toast. They mixed up the lead paint chips and
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:14 PM
Nov 2012

the potato chips. Again. This is industrial strength stupid. You could bore to the earth's core with it. Metallized hydrogen is not this fking dense.

Bucky

(54,068 posts)
23. Shit, they're on to us! Everyone, pack up your Tesla coils and meet me back at "The Ranch."
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:17 PM
Nov 2012

We're going to have to arrange a cyber-hit on this Chip Rogers fella and we need to link 'em all up to form into the KenyaTron 9000.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
27. So that box from USPS in the corner is a tesla coil?
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:35 PM
Nov 2012

Shit!!!! I could have had free power all these months? Now you tell me?

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
57. Nope. They sent you a Theremin. You've been supposed to have been practicing all this time.
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 01:05 PM
Nov 2012

Your job was to send out soothing mind control electronic music over the camp PA system during mandatory re-education sessions.

Every sector has one operative who was assigned one.


Better get busy, Comrade 'Alpha' will be in your sector at the end of this month on his initial inspection tour, and he loves a good Theremin serenade.

surrealAmerican

(11,364 posts)
28. It's almost a shame that Obama can't control their minds ...
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:40 PM
Nov 2012

... since they are so obviously incapable of controling their own minds.

d_r

(6,907 posts)
30. I tried watching the video
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:53 PM
Nov 2012

I guess I find right wing nut conspiracies sort of funny. But dang it was too horrible of a presentation to stand it.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
31. *lmao*
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:54 PM
Nov 2012

You know, this projection/accusing your victim of what you're doing thing is getting REALLY old.

Republicans have no problem with mind control- they support various religious groups for exactly that purpose. Free thinking is a sin in their mind unless the free thinking involves stealing something(or someone).

Say it with me everyone: HY-PO-CRI-SY!

Glamrock

(11,802 posts)
33. Wow.
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 07:14 PM
Nov 2012

I fear for my country. Sorry fer bein a bummer man. But this never-ending river of shit is freaking me the fuck out! I'm beginning to think violence in the street might be inevitable. I mean, am I wrong? Every day we come here and laugh at the new crazy shit these facsists, that would rather be called conservatives mind you, believe. And, while they deserve all said ridicule, it's beginning to feel like I'm laughing past the graveyard.
Just sayin'

Patiod

(11,816 posts)
34. I've actually run Delphi groups - seriously
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 07:34 PM
Nov 2012

You sit down with top experts in a particular field (in my case, it was health care) and get them to talk about the future of their field, and see which areas they agree on.

I think the first Delphis were done about the future of energy (oil and gas, etc)

This is really a thing, but it's not for controlling people, it's for trying to figure out what the future is likely to look like so that companies can do planning.

It's certainly possible that someone conducted Delphi groups about the future of energy, and one of the conclusions was that people won't want to live in outer-ring suburbs when gas is >$6/gallon or more, and maybe even that families might be having fewer kids because of the costs of college. These fools probably heard about these predictions and got it in their head that this was some sort of "population control"

AikidoSoul

(2,150 posts)
74. EXACTLY!
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 07:13 PM
Nov 2012

Delphi groups are an extremely important Organization Development tool, that structures groups of experts to clearly identify problems, and then project the best possible solutions for the future. This is also done in large corporations...and is part of sophisticated, highly efficient strategic planning.

The Rethuglican conspiracy theorists are complete morons!

Incitatus

(5,317 posts)
83. These are the same type of people who think Obama is controlling the weather with HAARP.
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 02:11 AM
Nov 2012

People use something and completely distort/lie about to create these conspiracies. Promoters of such conspiracies manage to make a lot of $ selling their videos, and advertising to people who can sell them guns, bomb shelters, 10 year supplies of MREs and crap like that.

DebbieCDC

(2,543 posts)
35. Wait...the US Chamber of Commerce is in on this nefarious plot?
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 07:58 PM
Nov 2012

LMFAO, that most right-wing of pro-business cheerleaders are backing a Socialist commie mind control plot?

We People

(619 posts)
37. Obviously, they cannot deal with the fact that THEY LOST
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 08:56 PM
Nov 2012

Besides, they need not worry about anyone using "mind control" on them. Nothing there to control.

Response to sufrommich (Original post)

hockeynut57

(230 posts)
42. SETI needs to turn their antennas towards GA
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:01 PM
Nov 2012

to see if there are any signs of intelligent life forms there nt

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
49. ROFL! These folks have been watching too many old Cold War conspiracy movies
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:29 PM
Nov 2012

I mean they're fun movies and all, The Manchurian Candidate is a favorite of mine, but ROFL.

yardwork

(61,712 posts)
50. The Republicans are telling the truth about what THEY ARE DOING TO US.
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:32 PM
Nov 2012

As usual, listen to what they are accusing Democrats of doing - it reveals what the Republicans are actually doing. They've been using psychological techniques since the 1980s to build a false "moral majority" in the U.S. that will reliably vote Republican against their own interests.

dawg

(10,624 posts)
51. And after NC, we were the second closest red state for Obama.
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:33 PM
Nov 2012

Just imagine what they are up to in Idaho.

LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
54. These guys are Looney Tunes and Merry Melodies....
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:40 PM
Nov 2012

.....and they've been that way for some time!!!!



They're nuts!!!!! They're nuts!!!! They're nuts!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
55. They're against this??? >>>>
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:48 PM
Nov 2012
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/11/15/georgia-lawmakers-meet-over-obamas-mind-control-un-dictatorship-plot/

The main focus of the event was something called Agenda 21, which conservatives warn is move towards dictatorship by “expanding public transportation routes and preserving open space as part of a United Nations-led conspiracy to deny property rights and herd citizens toward cities.” Former Republican presidential candidate Newt Gingrich even “explicitly repudiate[d] what Obama has done on Agenda 21? during a primary debate last year.


Hmmm...more green space, less sprawl. Sounds pretty damn good to me.

drm604

(16,230 posts)
59. Idiots. Delphi is not a "mind control technique".
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 01:33 PM
Nov 2012
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delphi_method
The Delphi method is a structured communication technique, originally developed as a systematic, interactive forecasting method which relies on a panel of experts.
...
Delphi is based on the principle that forecasts (or decisions) from a structured group of individuals are more accurate than those from unstructured groups. This has been indicated with the term "collective intelligence". The technique can also be adapted for use in face-to-face meetings, and is then called mini-Delphi or Estimate-Talk-Estimate (ETE). Delphi has been widely used for business forecasting and has certain advantages over another structured forecasting approach, prediction markets.


From the OP's article:
It [the breifing] was emceed by Field Searcy, a local conservative activist who was forced out of the Georgia Tea Party in April due to his endorsement of conspiracy theories about the president's birth certificate and the collapse of World Trade Center Tower 7.

This guy was too crazy for the freaking Georgia Tea Party. That's some grade A crazy there.

NYC Liberal

(20,136 posts)
62. "Both sides are the same". How much of this RW nuttery do we have to witness for this meme to die?
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 02:16 PM
Nov 2012

There may have been some nutty conspiracy theories about Bush, but how many of them were pushed by the leaders and the mainstream of the party? That's the difference. The nuttery on the right is the MAINSTREAM of their party.

allan01

(1,950 posts)
63. re: Top Georgia GOP Lawmakers Host Briefing on Secret Obama Mind-Control Plot
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 02:19 PM
Nov 2012

who has been up late listening to coast to coast am?


and where are the fema camps?

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
64. Oh hell, Chip Rogers is the representative of my district,
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 02:25 PM
Nov 2012

and is the only Republican I ever voted for. He was a big advocate against animal cruelty. That's the only reason I voted for him. He campaigned a fight against dog fighting in Georgia.

Andy Stanton

(264 posts)
65. Eventually the GOP will alienate more and more people
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 03:33 PM
Nov 2012

And they will become a fringe party like the Greens and the Libertarians, with only a core group of true believers.

Ganja Ninja

(15,953 posts)
66. It's only a matter of time before we have them all under our control.
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 03:45 PM
Nov 2012

Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated.

tanyev

(42,620 posts)
72. You might be able to avert the plot by wearing tin-foil hats every time you appear in public.
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 05:38 PM
Nov 2012

And I mean 24/7. Get busy folding.

phylny

(8,389 posts)
75. I was on a bus coming back from a conference to my hotel,
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 07:14 PM
Nov 2012

and this hit the news. I rolled my eyes, and so did most of the other out-of-town bus riders.

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
76. 'It's also known as "consensive process." '
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 07:18 PM
Nov 2012
It's also known as "consensive process." But basically the goal of the Delphi technique is to lead a targeted group of people to a pre-determined outcome while keeping the illusion of being open to public input.


Or in other words a typical sales technique. Sheesh.
 

crunch60

(1,412 posts)
78. I've been trying to tell you , it's a big plot, a sinister plot, a diabolical plot ,
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 11:16 PM
Nov 2012

a plot that Obama has been plotting a long time with his co-plotters.. Let me put on my and I will splain the evil plot to you..This is the end of America, get out while you can! Big Bird, the Trojan Bird, will be controlling your mind.

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tblue37

(65,490 posts)
80. Ironically, in _Manufacturing Consent_, Noam Chomsky
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 11:29 PM
Nov 2012

explains how the government manipulates the media to do something very much like that--but the manipulation is from the right, not from the left. We see that process in action on FOX News, where propaganda is 24/7. FOX and the cooperative MSM have played along with the most rightwing people in the government (and with the administration when it was a rightwing administration) to manipulate public opinion in order to drag us into illegal wars, like Iraq, and to drum up anticommunist hysteria.

This briefing is itself a symptom of the sort of nutty beliefs people can be made to espouse as a result of being constantly subjected to extreme propaganda of the Beck/Hannity/Rush variety.

But governments don't usually mobilize their people to save the planet or to help the poor and lead more sustainable lives. Governments are almost always more concerned with manipulating people to believe in such things as fighting wars that will feed the military-industrial complex or supporting various other methods to redistribute wealth upward toward those in poower.

enki23

(7,790 posts)
82. Another name for the secret mind-control technique is called "convincing." This is serious, people.
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 02:01 AM
Nov 2012

"But basically the goal of the Delphi technique is to lead a targeted group of people to a pre-determined outcome while keeping the illusion of being open to public input."

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