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Scottie Mom

(5,812 posts)
Tue Sep 26, 2023, 06:52 PM Sep 2023

So let's think about this...what assets does TFG now have control over?

What all do the Trump businesses own and control? This is a NY state case, but their fingers are squarely in assets outside of NY State, like MAL and the golf course in Scotland. There is a receiver in charge and, if anything like a BK, he/she has the responsibility of using the assets for those who are owed money -- in this case because of the fraud committed by the Trump businesses.

So whaddabout:

The airplane? His cars? Use of MAL? Support for Melania? Campaign monies? Etc., etc. A receiver is now in control. I am LMAO...can you imagine TFG having to ask to use his airplane to campaign? I wanna see him in a middle seat on Southwest with a screaming baby next to him with TFG holding a bag of chips and a Diet Coke in a plastic glass and with someone's carry-on intruding on the space for his feet.

This could get really, really interesting!

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So let's think about this...what assets does TFG now have control over? (Original Post) Scottie Mom Sep 2023 OP
Have the damages been announced? WarGamer Sep 2023 #1
I skimmed the ruling. Scottie Mom Sep 2023 #5
he would eat a bullet before he sold Trump Tower Recycle_Guru Sep 2023 #15
He should sell it WarGamer Sep 2023 #16
I dunno. It's a skyscraper in Manhattan that might not have... brush Sep 2023 #21
I'd love to see his name absent from NYS. WarGamer Sep 2023 #22
I'd like his name gone too from NYC. brush Sep 2023 #24
the King of Tacky. WarGamer Sep 2023 #25
The picture you present cracks me up. Southwest coach indeed yonder Sep 2023 #2
I see a little dog...... MyOwnPeace Sep 2023 #12
LOL Complete bollocks about dogs recognizing evil ExWhoDoesntCare Sep 2023 #29
Don't forget the farting service dog in the other seat next to him Jerry2144 Sep 2023 #3
OMG...I would take sitting next to the farting dog rather than sitting by TFG!!!!!! Scottie Mom Sep 2023 #8
How many of his assets are unencumbered.... Spazito Sep 2023 #4
His big ASS😀 malaise Sep 2023 #6
I thin people are overreacting here... brooklynite Sep 2023 #7
Ummmmmmmmmm... Scottie Mom Sep 2023 #9
they have a short period to place the assets/liabilities into other business entity Recycle_Guru Sep 2023 #17
...which will still be controlled by Trump and family. brooklynite Sep 2023 #18
--- using assets for those who are owed money. Unless he defaulted, the banks are owed nothing. 3Hotdogs Sep 2023 #10
Wrong brooklynite Sep 2023 #14
Agree. But this is the foundation that insurance companies can use. 3Hotdogs Sep 2023 #20
If he acquired assets with Stolen New York Money? pwb Sep 2023 #11
'Trumpy' be not good! MyOwnPeace Sep 2023 #13
Love the scenario you paint with your last graph. brush Sep 2023 #19
You forgot the mansion at Seven Springs. TexasTowelie Sep 2023 #27
Oh yes. You're right. brush Sep 2023 #28
The golf club where Ivana is buried ExWhoDoesntCare Sep 2023 #30
what assets does TFG now have control over? usonian Sep 2023 #23
AMEN!!!! EOM Scottie Mom Sep 2023 #26

WarGamer

(12,484 posts)
1. Have the damages been announced?
Tue Sep 26, 2023, 06:53 PM
Sep 2023

At most, he'll sell Trump Tower and the NYS portfolio to rich Saudis and cash out...

Scottie Mom

(5,812 posts)
5. I skimmed the ruling.
Tue Sep 26, 2023, 06:59 PM
Sep 2023

There are damages and findings based...but the amounts of damages/sanctions are not in the ruling on the 3 motions.

The plaintiff won on the elements of the causes of action -- however, if like CA, there will be a trial on the money issues.

WarGamer

(12,484 posts)
16. He should sell it
Tue Sep 26, 2023, 07:19 PM
Sep 2023

I betcha he'd get a fortune for it.

Take off the Trump name and it's a primo NYC icon.

I can see $1B+ for it.

In fact, he should have sold it DURING the trial to show the real valuation.

brush

(53,871 posts)
21. I dunno. It's a skyscraper in Manhattan that might not have...
Tue Sep 26, 2023, 07:50 PM
Sep 2023

a fire sprinkler system in it's many units (a man died there in a fire in 2018 (a fire alram system did alert the fire department). Cheapskate mango menace didn't put them in when it was built in 1983 as they weren't required then, and it's not clear whether the building has been retro-fitted with sprinklers.

If not, that lessens the value considerably. To his credit, he did retro-fit one of his other buildings, trump World Tower, in 1999.

WarGamer

(12,484 posts)
22. I'd love to see his name absent from NYS.
Tue Sep 26, 2023, 07:52 PM
Sep 2023

I personally don't like NYC... but I've been there and seen Trump Tower and it's pretty embarrassing.

But the location, etc is primo.

I can see an investment group spending a fortune for it.

Give it a new name and I'll eat lunch there next time I'm in NYC.

brush

(53,871 posts)
24. I'd like his name gone too from NYC.
Tue Sep 26, 2023, 08:06 PM
Sep 2023

The site where trump Tower is now was once where an Art Deco gem, Bonwit Teller and Company, a luxury department Store once stood.

It had a magnificent, and highly praised Art Deco frieze that trump promised the Landmarks Commission that he would save. He didn't . It was demolished when he tore down the building.

Such a bastard.

MyOwnPeace

(16,938 posts)
12. I see a little dog......
Tue Sep 26, 2023, 07:10 PM
Sep 2023

in a 'carry-on' on the floor next to 'him' - and the dog growls FOREVER, because DOGS ALWAYS RECOGNIZE EVIL PEOPLE!!!!

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
29. LOL Complete bollocks about dogs recognizing evil
Wed Sep 27, 2023, 09:06 AM
Sep 2023

Care to explain why so many evil people have had pet dogs who had zero problems with their evil owners?

You must have missed this example of one not caring about evil:



Or how these two have failed to pick up on the evil here (yes, those are his pets--he's a well-known dog-lover):



Una didn't recognize it with the owner who loved her, Moors Murders serial killer, Ian Brady:



His partner, Myra Hindley, likewise adored a pet who didn't seem to pick up on her evil ways:



Bleep didn't recognize evil with the owner who loved him--serial killer Dennis Nilsen:



And yet another serial killer with a pet dog, this time John Christie, pictured with Judy, who seems fine being around this evil person:



Cats on the other hand...

v

Scottie Mom

(5,812 posts)
8. OMG...I would take sitting next to the farting dog rather than sitting by TFG!!!!!!
Tue Sep 26, 2023, 07:03 PM
Sep 2023

I was talking with a friend today about how TFG's like style may be severely crimped due to the receiver...and this IMO is gonna be fun to watch.

IMO, TFG got rightfully got f*cked today...and I love it, farting dog and all!

Spazito

(50,474 posts)
4. How many of his assets are unencumbered....
Tue Sep 26, 2023, 06:58 PM
Sep 2023

and how many have outstanding loans on them that are equal to or greater than the the value of the assets themselves.

brooklynite

(94,737 posts)
7. I thin people are overreacting here...
Tue Sep 26, 2023, 07:02 PM
Sep 2023

Trump Orgs business licenses are being canceled. I’ve seen nothing about confiscating and disposing of assets.

3Hotdogs

(12,409 posts)
10. --- using assets for those who are owed money. Unless he defaulted, the banks are owed nothing.
Tue Sep 26, 2023, 07:04 PM
Sep 2023

Insurance companies are owed premium. For undervalued or overvalued properties. I can see a reason for an insurance purchaser to value either way.

The major beneficiaries are the NYS taxpayers who were indeed, defrauded.

brooklynite

(94,737 posts)
14. Wrong
Tue Sep 26, 2023, 07:17 PM
Sep 2023

This is a civil case by the state of New York. There’s a penalty fee ($2(0 M) being asked by the State, but no private entity is a plaintiff in this suit.They would have file separately to claim damages.

3Hotdogs

(12,409 posts)
20. Agree. But this is the foundation that insurance companies can use.
Tue Sep 26, 2023, 07:24 PM
Sep 2023

All the research has been provided by N.Y.S.A.G.

pwb

(11,291 posts)
11. If he acquired assets with Stolen New York Money?
Tue Sep 26, 2023, 07:04 PM
Sep 2023

Yes, Some years he got refunds. After New York State is finished with them the IRS will be wanting their proven fraud amount. How you now Trumpy?

brush

(53,871 posts)
19. Love the scenario you paint with your last graph.
Tue Sep 26, 2023, 07:23 PM
Sep 2023

Last edited Tue Sep 26, 2023, 11:00 PM - Edit history (1)

The schadenfreude is delicious, and so funny. Old mango menace still has some assets in New York. There are the rental spaces in trump tower; his 10k sq ft residence that he lied was 30k sq ft; and a couple of golf courses. Wonder who takes control of the one where he buried his first wife, Ivanna (it's been reported that it's overgrown with weeds now. Even those sad spawn of theirs haven't seen to it that Ivana's grave is looked after — the daughter Ivanka, the one married to Kushner who somehow wrankled over 3 billion out of oil-rich Middle Eastern states (wonder what he coughed up in return), hasn't arranged to pay for the upkeep of the pathetic final resting place trump plopped down her in.

Wonder if the naming rights of the many trump-named co-op buildings on the Westside Highway in Manhattan, and at least one in New Rochelle in Westchester County above the Bronx— many couldn't move fast enough to take the big trump lettering off their facades since all this trouble has gone on...for what seems like forever now...wonder if those rights are worth anything?

TexasTowelie

(112,438 posts)
27. You forgot the mansion at Seven Springs.
Tue Sep 26, 2023, 10:34 PM
Sep 2023

It's supposed to be their retreat where the entire family gathers.

brush

(53,871 posts)
28. Oh yes. You're right.
Tue Sep 26, 2023, 11:06 PM
Sep 2023

Wonder if they still get together. Ivanka and hubbie seems to want to disassociate themselves from the whole clan.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
30. The golf club where Ivana is buried
Wed Sep 27, 2023, 09:08 AM
Sep 2023

Is in New Jersey and thus wouldn't fall under this ruling.

Geography--it matters.

usonian

(9,883 posts)
23. what assets does TFG now have control over?
Tue Sep 26, 2023, 07:58 PM
Sep 2023

1. Kevin McCarthy and the entire U.S. Budget
2. Tuber-Ville and the entire U.S. Military.

Change needed.

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