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Justice wanted

(2,657 posts)
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 10:18 PM Jan 2012

Guess who is Lobbying to have SOPA and PIPA passed

Props to DU for the black out today.


I did see this on Think Progress and I found it VERY telling.


http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/01/18/406397/chart-who-is-lobbying-for-and-against-the-protect-ip-act/


You can read the article but what I wanted to show was how much certain lobbyist have given for the passing of SOPA:

CHAMBER OF COMMERCE OF THE U S A $19,050,000


COMCAST CORPORATION $8,920,000
(Keep in mind how Comcast now owns part of NBC and MSNBC)


National Association of Broadcasters $6,620,000


NATIONAL CABLE AND TELECOMMUNICATIONS ASSOCIATION $8,510,000



NEWS AMERICA INC $3,070,000


These 5 groups alone have spent a combine $46,710,000

Also look at the companies spending the most on lobbying. What are they really hoping to do?

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Guess who is Lobbying to have SOPA and PIPA passed (Original Post) Justice wanted Jan 2012 OP
It's always been about pirated music and movies justiceischeap Jan 2012 #1
I honestly don't think so. Not with the way this these bills are written. Justice wanted Jan 2012 #2
When you look at who lobbied for it, it's clear justiceischeap Jan 2012 #3
What does the Chamber of Commerce need to lobby for this bill and spending 19 million on it? Justice wanted Jan 2012 #5
I'm quite certain the CoC is involved because justiceischeap Jan 2012 #9
You mean "poorly"? wtmusic Jan 2012 #6
No it is not about pirated anything. Warren Stupidity Jan 2012 #4
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_Online_Piracy_Act justiceischeap Jan 2012 #8
Well yes they are part of the cartel supporting it, it just isn't actually about piracy. Warren Stupidity Jan 2012 #10
Thanks for exposing the truth. eom tawadi Jan 2012 #7

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
3. When you look at who lobbied for it, it's clear
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 10:24 PM
Jan 2012

however, I think the reason Obama is now walking this back is that this was originally intended for the music & movie industries to stop piracy and someone in writing the bill became overzealous. I think when they figured out people were noticing that it went farther than originally intended, they got a bit scared, hence Obama will no longer support THIS VERSION of SOPA, though PIPA still looks like it's a go in its current form.

Justice wanted

(2,657 posts)
5. What does the Chamber of Commerce need to lobby for this bill and spending 19 million on it?
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 10:26 PM
Jan 2012

Remember this is the same organization who was doing some nasty tricks in the 2010 election.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
9. I'm quite certain the CoC is involved because
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 10:35 PM
Jan 2012

piracy hurts business, so of course they're going to support legislation that supports business. The music industry is suffering because they've yet to figure out how to profit with the Internet around...

wtmusic

(39,166 posts)
6. You mean "poorly"?
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 10:31 PM
Jan 2012

IMO it's a combination. It's about copyright, but it's also the big players taking out the little players - consolidation. And the prospects for the future of free speech are horrendous.

I have no problem with the protection of IP, and I think this movement was begun as a legit crusade to stop some of the money draining from this country. Somebody had a lousy idea about how to accomplish that, and when big business saw it they thought, "This would be awesome, let's throw it at the wall and see if it sticks."

It can't be allowed to stick.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
4. No it is not about pirated anything.
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 10:26 PM
Jan 2012

It is about getting control over the Internet so that a small group of content providers can dominate this delivery channel the same way they dominate broadcast, muscling out the independents and using the government to enforce rent extraction from a passive peasantry.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
8. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_Online_Piracy_Act
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 10:34 PM
Jan 2012
Proponents of the bill say it protects the intellectual property market and corresponding industry, jobs and revenue, and is necessary to bolster enforcement of copyright laws, especially against foreign websites.


Who profits the most from the "intellectual property market?" Music and movie industries... who owns music and movie conglomerates? Broadcast companies or vice versa.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
10. Well yes they are part of the cartel supporting it, it just isn't actually about piracy.
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 10:42 PM
Jan 2012

It is about controlling access and rent extraction.

Here is a clue: whatever is in the title of the bill is almost always precisely what the legislation is not about.

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