of the conspirators, or a combination of both and perhaps other methods, I believe that Anonymous played an important and viable role in keeping Rove from stealing Ohio.

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It isn't right to offer a binary choice burdened with extraneous assumptions. It should just be yes or no.

My answer is "no" but my reasoning is not perfectly represented by the question as phrased.

went horribly wrong with his attempted steal!

and staked your professional reputation on a effort that failed?

How upset are you supposed to be?

I don't get the "why was Rove so upset?" thing.

If Obama had lost I would have been pretty upset and I didn't even have my professional life on the line.

The real effort to steal the election was by voter ID laws, voter purgers and long lines. The courts and Obama's GOTV effort prevented the Republicans from stealing Ohio.

All those thinking that Rove has some evil switch that will flip the election but was foiled at the last minute by a hacker group has been watching too many movies.

Romney's campaign couldn't even gets its killer app ORCA working properly. What makes you expect them to devise so elaborate scheme to steal the election using computers?

It's much easier to just have laws to make it harder for Democratic leaning supporters to vote.

On the other hand, nothing surprises me any more, and it wouldn't surprise me if Anonymous stopped some sort of vote machine hacking, either. I wouldn't put it past Rove and the rethugs to try to pull something like this. Right now, I'm not convinced by any means that they did.

Purges, long lines, etc.

I think you should stop abusing the language.

Also, your bizarroland logic: Sure, the known criminals at the core of Rove's and related operations would bully, cheat, lie, deceive, mislead, raise false accusations, and deploy terror and fear to literally steal the election, and they have done so before ... definitely in 2000, probably in 2004 ... but! Only retail! Never wholesale! That would be unsporting.

Are you really saying they would not steal it electronically if they could?

that Anonymous had a hand in it except for the pre-election "Rove is being watched" video & the post-election claim made to Velvet Revolution.

I can't get over the fact that, despite having such a sleazy candidate that I've never before seen in my lifetime, Karl Rove was so sure that RobMe could actually win this election. Dick Morris adamently said it would be a landslide. RobMe only prepared a victory speech. The fireworks were ready to go.

Something went wrong for those skunks.

Whatever the case, I'm grateful that this wasn't another 2000 outcome. I don't think we could have swallowed another dose of blatant election chicanery.

Everyone who wants to think -without any evidence- that some super-secret cyber agency saved us are the people who still pray to Santa Claus for gifts.

It's bullshit. And I'm sad to see so many people on DU willing to believe anything -whether it's good or bad- without evidence of some sort.

Frankly, I think it makes DU look crazy.

As long as people think they talk to God every night and Jesus rises from the dead and you can eat him on Sundays, or that economies can grow infinitely forever, the belief that there was a failed hack attempt in the election is not even the millionth craziest idea on the planet.

Behind your "amazement," I smell a desire to censor.

For my part I'm amazed DU still draws this many people, now that it's banished or discourages most of the interesting debates and even the bankster bailout is supposed to be a good thing.

Go with Yes, No, Maybe.

For example, if I wanted to answer yes: I haven't read any articles in Vanity Fair and would never choose an answer that had me accepting the spelling of Vanaty.

I figure the "Anonymous" letter is a hoax -- or a bluff -- but there are indicators (like 11:13) that a steal was intended but somehow went wrong.

'gullible new agers'. This made me lean toward Anonymous stopping a coup.

and probably several other states as well.

If I had to make a call, I'd say no, they did not do what they claim. If they had, and had a lick of sense, they'd have also provided evidence at the same time.

Instead of burying our faces in the sand, we need to find ways to fix it.