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Donkees

(31,620 posts)
Sun Nov 19, 2023, 06:28 AM Nov 2023

30 premature babies have been evacuated from al-Shifa hospital and will be transferred to hospitals in Egypt.

Gaza’s health ministry says 30 premature babies have been evacuated from al-Shifa hospital and will be transferred to hospitals in Egypt.

Medhat Abbas, a spokesman for the ministry, said they were evacuated from the hospital on Sunday, the Associated Press reports.

A World Health Organisation team that visited al-Shifa hospital on Saturday said 32 babies were among scores of critically ill patients stranded at the hospital, where Israeli forces have been operating since last week.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2023/nov/19/israel-hamas-war-live-15-dead-in-central-and-southern-gaza-attacks-say-palestinians
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30 premature babies have been evacuated from al-Shifa hospital and will be transferred to hospitals in Egypt. (Original Post) Donkees Nov 2023 OP
I heard a Doctor True Blue American Nov 2023 #1
They have already lived as messengers of peace Donkees Nov 2023 #2
Perhaps. Igel Nov 2023 #4
So... was the "doctor" lying on purpose? Or just a really incompetent doctor? FBaggins Nov 2023 #5
Good Demovictory9 Nov 2023 #3
Glad to hear the propaganda spread in other previous threads was false BannonsLiver Nov 2023 #6
I'm glad they're okay. BlueCheeseAgain Nov 2023 #7
Yes crazylikafox Nov 2023 #8

Igel

(35,427 posts)
4. Perhaps.
Sun Nov 19, 2023, 05:15 PM
Nov 2023

But instead of comparing "most will die" versus "all will live" if left in place during war, I'd want to know the survival rate at that hospital pre-war.

That's the control situation, the 'null hypothesis.' That's what you compare against. Not "most would have died" versus "all would have survived"--an assumption that might be horribly wrong. (Actually, the "most would die" is also just a prediction. Data, I'm sure, is forthcoming.)

If most would have died in 9/23, then the difference is a detail. If most would have lived in 9/23, then there's unnecessary death caused by the declaration of war by Hamas on 10/7 in violation of the ceasefire and the rather lopsided war carried out by Israel after lots of evacuation warnings.

I don't know if Israel or Egypt or any other countries were called upon to help evacuate the most innocent and vulnerable from ash-Shifa. I'd imagine *that* could have been worked out. Hard to disguise a current Hamas fighter as a preemie or a newborn at-risk.

FBaggins

(26,880 posts)
5. So... was the "doctor" lying on purpose? Or just a really incompetent doctor?
Mon Nov 20, 2023, 12:49 PM
Nov 2023

31 babies were evacuated. Apparently, all 31 survived.

28 are now in hospitals in Egypt. The other three remained at a southern Gaza hospital with at least two in good health.

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