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Ninga

(8,280 posts)
Mon Jan 22, 2024, 02:08 PM Jan 2024

I have a question about CNN giving 1.5 h s of free airtime to Haley last night.

It was pitched as a town hall. So my question is, if a network gives a candidate free air time under the guise of “town hall,” and does not fact check immediately after, does that then become an “in kind” contribution to the candidate and reportable under federal election laws?

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I have a question about CNN giving 1.5 h s of free airtime to Haley last night. (Original Post) Ninga Jan 2024 OP
No. tritsofme Jan 2024 #1
Thanks. Can you elaborate? Ninga Jan 2024 #2
Why do you think it is? You are pitching the unconventional idea here. tritsofme Jan 2024 #4
As I stated, there was no "fact" checking regarding her claims.. If I remember correctly, after Ninga Jan 2024 #7
But "fact checking" is just an arbitrary standard you created right here. tritsofme Jan 2024 #10
When a company/person/organization contributes to a candidate anything of value, be that Ninga Jan 2024 #13
Again though, "fact checking" is an arbitrary standard that you just created yourself. tritsofme Jan 2024 #16
Well I guess your link to CNN's on line fact checking shows they responded . But as the church lady would Ninga Jan 2024 #15
It's an "unkind" contribution. dchill Jan 2024 #3
+1 MontanaMama Jan 2024 #5
I thought I read here today that they were going to give President Biden tinymontgomery Jan 2024 #6
The issue is not town hall. Plenty of candidates have had town halls. It's the fact checking. Ninga Jan 2024 #8
There's never any fact checking on Republicans, ever. tinymontgomery Jan 2024 #12
Is there an example of comments that needed fact checking? Don't doubt Haley lied often, but is there Silent Type Jan 2024 #9
Her claim that Sanctuary Cities contribute to high crime. Ninga Jan 2024 #11
Thanks. One could definitely shoot that down from studies, but it would be a slog to do because Silent Type Jan 2024 #14

tritsofme

(17,409 posts)
4. Why do you think it is? You are pitching the unconventional idea here.
Mon Jan 22, 2024, 02:20 PM
Jan 2024

Television networks host candidate forums all the time, do you have any precedent where these have ever been considered “in kind” contributions?

Ninga

(8,280 posts)
7. As I stated, there was no "fact" checking regarding her claims.. If I remember correctly, after
Mon Jan 22, 2024, 02:24 PM
Jan 2024

televised town halls, the network talking heads do a compare and contrast regarding candidates claims. CNN was silent. Thereby gifting her an 1.5 of free say what she wants, airtime. Can you imagine what that costs?

tritsofme

(17,409 posts)
10. But "fact checking" is just an arbitrary standard you created right here.
Mon Jan 22, 2024, 02:31 PM
Jan 2024

Where is the legal standard that says whatever you happen to consider to be “inadequate” fact checking turns a candidate forum into an “in kind” contribution?

Also, this was the first thing that popped up in google when I searched for the town hall

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/01/18/politics/fact-check-nikki-haley-townhall-new-hampshire/index.html

Ninga

(8,280 posts)
13. When a company/person/organization contributes to a candidate anything of value, be that
Mon Jan 22, 2024, 02:39 PM
Jan 2024

money, equipment, supplies, an office, loaning employees, etc., it is reportable.

CNN’s treatment of the town hall did not feature the requisite talking heads doing a fact check. This completely alters the nature of so called public service, thereby making it appears as though CNN endorsed her answers.

tritsofme

(17,409 posts)
16. Again though, "fact checking" is an arbitrary standard that you just created yourself.
Mon Jan 22, 2024, 02:46 PM
Jan 2024

Where is the precedent for such a standard being applied?

I can’t believe any candidate forum hosted by Fox News meets your arbitrary standard, why haven’t they been pursued under your theory?

Also, I posted a CNN fact check on the Haley event, so your claim isn’t even really correct.

Ninga

(8,280 posts)
15. Well I guess your link to CNN's on line fact checking shows they responded . But as the church lady would
Mon Jan 22, 2024, 02:44 PM
Jan 2024

Say…how convenient!
Proved me wrong.

tinymontgomery

(2,584 posts)
6. I thought I read here today that they were going to give President Biden
Mon Jan 22, 2024, 02:23 PM
Jan 2024

I thought I read here today that they were going to give President Biden a town hall in the near future. I can't find it now, of
course I could be total wrong.

Ninga

(8,280 posts)
8. The issue is not town hall. Plenty of candidates have had town halls. It's the fact checking.
Mon Jan 22, 2024, 02:29 PM
Jan 2024

Fact checking by the network
Fact checking immediately after the town hall.
There was NO FACT checking regarding Haley’s claims.
*crickets*

tinymontgomery

(2,584 posts)
12. There's never any fact checking on Republicans, ever.
Mon Jan 22, 2024, 02:39 PM
Jan 2024

Well during one debate, I think it was Wallace that did fact check one of the people on the stage, only time
I ever saw a moderator do that. Edit to say I get your point.

Silent Type

(3,005 posts)
9. Is there an example of comments that needed fact checking? Don't doubt Haley lied often, but is there
Mon Jan 22, 2024, 02:30 PM
Jan 2024

something that can be fact checked.

Silent Type

(3,005 posts)
14. Thanks. One could definitely shoot that down from studies, but it would be a slog to do because
Mon Jan 22, 2024, 02:41 PM
Jan 2024

most of the studies are pages long and none of the Magats we'd be trying to convince will read studies or accept our interpretation.

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