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Demsrule86

(68,715 posts)
Sun Feb 4, 2024, 09:54 AM Feb 2024

I am never watching the Weekend again.

I like Simone but Michael Steele sat there all disappointed with the idea of Biden’s success in Carolina with a worried nasty expression. Biden has a ‘big problem’. The Democrats are doomed I tell you

And they had Dean Phillips on the show. Steele gives him a chance to defend his plan to stay in the election and attack Biden.

Bad polls and more bullshit. Simone pushed back, but it is not enough. I am turning it off. Make no mistake, Steele has an agenda. I won’t watch it again.

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I am never watching the Weekend again. (Original Post) Demsrule86 Feb 2024 OP
Isn't Michael Steel a republican? Wasn't he head of the republican party? Srkdqltr Feb 2024 #1
True that. Do you know how to self delete. I edited this and posted it twice! Demsrule86 Feb 2024 #2
Click on 'powers' under the post redqueen Feb 2024 #11
And you want MSNBC to only include Democrats? brooklynite Feb 2024 #27
I don't think a MNBC should pile on Joe Biden the day after he won a primary decisvely and give Demsrule86 Feb 2024 #46
And your opinion is that one person's comment is "piling on"? brooklynite Feb 2024 #57
Two people -- Michael Steele and Dean Phillips. whathehell Feb 2024 #58
Not at all. I have heard him on shows a lot. I have no problem with his opinions. Srkdqltr Feb 2024 #63
Michael Steele is like most Republican Never Trumpers .. agingdem Feb 2024 #60
I missed that segment, but honestly the three thrown together as hosts seems really forced... hlthe2b Feb 2024 #3
It really wasnt good. Demsrule86 Feb 2024 #18
Yup. Joy has him on frequently too. I turn it. I'm over that recon lover. onecaliberal Feb 2024 #4
Fast forward because i like Joy. Demsrule86 Feb 2024 #19
The Phillips interview was disappointing Raven123 Feb 2024 #5
Phillips is just... 2naSalit Feb 2024 #6
Sure, but call him out. Raven123 Feb 2024 #9
Agreed... 2naSalit Feb 2024 #12
Dean Phillips definitely has a questionable agenda. patphil Feb 2024 #43
Does Phillips want Trump to win? Demsrule86 Feb 2024 #7
Sure had me wondering. Raven123 Feb 2024 #14
Right? Demsrule86 Feb 2024 #21
Praising Donald Trump will likely end his career in Demsrule86 Feb 2024 #8
Good!! TSExile Feb 2024 #13
I agree. I cant stand him. Demsrule86 Feb 2024 #22
He also said 'Biden can't win'....it's you dean who got less than 2% spanone Feb 2024 #53
I wonder how Medhi Hasan would've handled the Phillips interview? Fiendish Thingy Feb 2024 #10
I miss Mehdi, too. TSExile Feb 2024 #15
Mhedi would have blamed Biden for the Gaza war. comradebillyboy Feb 2024 #17
I thought Mehdi was very good and watched his show. Demsrule86 Feb 2024 #23
Mehdi's removal was cowardly, and a crude power play. Shabby, raw, ignorant behavior from MSNBC. Judi Lynn Feb 2024 #33
I will agree Deuxcents Feb 2024 #35
I heard that in my car... maptap22 Feb 2024 #16
I was livid myself and he had a nasty expression as well on TV. Demsrule86 Feb 2024 #24
None of them are really what I would call a "favorite" commentator of mine... Wounded Bear Feb 2024 #20
I will not watch Michael steele. I like Simone but just no to this show. Demsrule86 Feb 2024 #25
I don't hate him, but I do know where he's coming from... Wounded Bear Feb 2024 #26
Michael Steele has gone to the dark side IMHO...he helped Trump today...I find Demsrule86 Feb 2024 #47
I like Simone too, and at one time I had hope for Michael S spooky3 Feb 2024 #56
This is the problem of MSNBC in general: GreenWave Feb 2024 #28
I give Mika a lot of credit for banning KellyAnn Conway for her "alternative facts" remark early on in the Trump CTyankee Feb 2024 #34
When Phillips said TFG listened better than Biden, I almost threw the remote at the TV. Demsrule86 Feb 2024 #48
But how will people be able to complain about it if they don't watch regularly? brooklynite Feb 2024 #29
when I watch Michael Steele I always remember he is a Republican, hydrolastic Feb 2024 #30
Michael is triangulating Blue Idaho Feb 2024 #37
I believe this is only the 2nd week for this program, think they should be given adequate time to get their bearings. Judi Lynn Feb 2024 #31
Agreed!! TSExile Feb 2024 #66
OK. Thanks for letting us know... MineralMan Feb 2024 #32
I saw Steele on the "Bulwark" podcast this morning and I thought he made some great points Bucky Feb 2024 #36
To be honest claudette Feb 2024 #38
She wasn't at her best today. That is for sure. Demsrule86 Feb 2024 #52
Steele rarely adds anything constructive or particularly insightful to panel discussions. Gidney N Cloyd Feb 2024 #39
I'm with you. They go on and on and on about whatever new poll says that is bad for Biden and Vinca Feb 2024 #40
Exactly! Shame on them for bringing Quakerfriend Feb 2024 #44
A black Republican in 2024 is an intentionally aberrant political "coquette" with questionable aims and motivations. jaxexpat Feb 2024 #41
You are right...and IMHO, he should not be hosting shows. Demsrule86 Feb 2024 #55
Yeah and I also fantasize that Fox will open their entertainment programs with a disclaimer. jaxexpat Feb 2024 #62
Television news and opinion is worthless. hunter Feb 2024 #42
True, I get most of news and ideas here on DU or by looking a poll internals...also Demsrule86 Feb 2024 #50
I was amused by the "What the hell are you doing?" clip LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2024 #45
That was the best clip and then it went downhill from there. Demsrule86 Feb 2024 #49
The interview with Marc Elias on the 14th Amendment SCOTUS disqualification case was great LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2024 #65
The fact that MS is on the panel is enough for me senseandsensibility Feb 2024 #51
I am starting to feel that way. Dean Phillips said TFG listened better than Biden, he Demsrule86 Feb 2024 #54
Agree. I so looked forward to Veshi in the morning. bluestarone Feb 2024 #59
I think Velshi gets treated like dirt...Menendez is not good. I don't like Jen Psaki that much either. Demsrule86 Feb 2024 #64
Their opinions aren't even backed up by a poll.... LakeArenal Feb 2024 #61
Hehe rdchili96 Feb 2024 #67

Srkdqltr

(6,341 posts)
1. Isn't Michael Steel a republican? Wasn't he head of the republican party?
Sun Feb 4, 2024, 10:02 AM
Feb 2024

He's against Trump but still republican.

brooklynite

(94,794 posts)
27. And you want MSNBC to only include Democrats?
Sun Feb 4, 2024, 11:22 AM
Feb 2024

Personally I don’t need my news to be in a safe bubble…

Demsrule86

(68,715 posts)
46. I don't think a MNBC should pile on Joe Biden the day after he won a primary decisvely and give
Sun Feb 4, 2024, 01:51 PM
Feb 2024

Dean Phillips who got fewer votes than Williamson an opportunity to trash Biden...they can put what they want on their network. But I won't watch it...and Steele is going on about how bad Trump is but almost everything he did today helps Trump and hurts Biden. I can watch Fox news or lately CNN If I want to watch this sort of crap. Phillips actually said that TFG listens better than Biden with no pushback. Why the hell would they put Phillips on...he did horribly and they pretty much ignored the strong numbers in Biden's win yesterday. There were more shitty polls and very little information on the South Carolina primary on this sorry show.

Srkdqltr

(6,341 posts)
63. Not at all. I have heard him on shows a lot. I have no problem with his opinions.
Sun Feb 4, 2024, 03:52 PM
Feb 2024

Keeping in mind that he is republican and some of his opinions might reflect that. I was responding to the poster.

agingdem

(7,866 posts)
60. Michael Steele is like most Republican Never Trumpers ..
Sun Feb 4, 2024, 03:40 PM
Feb 2024

Last edited Sun Feb 4, 2024, 10:50 PM - Edit history (1)

they hate Trump more than they hate Democrats...and irony or all ironies they are responsible for the rise of Trump... because they despised the Clintons, Hillary in particular, they embraced Trump and sold him as a viable candidate, someone who would grow into the majesty of the office...and when he turned on them, they suddenly saw the light and reinvented themselves as Never Trumpers, telling anyone who would listen they never liked this amoral malicious revenge-fueled pathological liar, this narcissist psychopath...right!

hlthe2b

(102,421 posts)
3. I missed that segment, but honestly the three thrown together as hosts seems really forced...
Sun Feb 4, 2024, 10:12 AM
Feb 2024

and quite disjointed. I don't dislike any of them on their own, but together the dynamics just feel waaay off. I'd be surprised if this show succeeds.

Raven123

(4,886 posts)
5. The Phillips interview was disappointing
Sun Feb 4, 2024, 10:18 AM
Feb 2024

Nuance aside, they repeatedly asked him when he was getting out of the race. He repeated said TFG listened to the people. Expect to see that in a GOP campaign ad. Not enough pushback by a long shot.

If he agreed with TFG about the border, I would have hoped they would have asked him about what he has done as a congressman to address the issue and what he would do differently from Biden.

Oh, and he noted saiid Biden shouldn’t be running at this stage of life. I may be paraphrasing, but we all know what that means

2naSalit

(86,856 posts)
6. Phillips is just...
Sun Feb 4, 2024, 10:23 AM
Feb 2024

Another rich boi wannbe who has nothing to offer as a Representative in the House, can't imagine how he thinks he has any skill sets for the presidency. I recall his lame attempt at challenging michelle bachman years ago.

Someone is propping him up if he isn't wasting his own funds.

2naSalit

(86,856 posts)
12. Agreed...
Sun Feb 4, 2024, 10:37 AM
Feb 2024

Definitely call him out for his personal desire for his unqualified ass to land in the most powerful office.

patphil

(6,230 posts)
43. Dean Phillips definitely has a questionable agenda.
Sun Feb 4, 2024, 12:48 PM
Feb 2024

He finished a weak 3rd, with less than 2% of the vote. What possible reason would he have to continue when it's obvious that Biden is going to be the candidate?
Turnout was light, but you would expect that in a primary where the front runner is the current President, who is doing an excellent job. The results reflect that.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-primary-elections/south-carolina-president-results

Biden got over 94% in each of the counties.

Raven123

(4,886 posts)
14. Sure had me wondering.
Sun Feb 4, 2024, 10:37 AM
Feb 2024

Why not challenge him on the border issue? I’m tired of the bull. Did they ask why birder crossings increase under TFG? No. Did they ask how he would address the problem? No. At least they addressed his frequent missed votes.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,686 posts)
10. I wonder how Medhi Hasan would've handled the Phillips interview?
Sun Feb 4, 2024, 10:36 AM
Feb 2024

Much differently, but we’ll never know.

TSExile

(2,501 posts)
15. I miss Mehdi, too.
Sun Feb 4, 2024, 10:38 AM
Feb 2024

I loved whenever Ben Collins was part of a panel discussion, a copy of Mehdi's book was prominently displayed behind him!!!

maptap22

(70 posts)
16. I heard that in my car...
Sun Feb 4, 2024, 10:39 AM
Feb 2024

And I was yelling at my radio. 😡. Right after they talk about how great it is that Joe got 96% of the SC vote, Steele came on to say Joe is in trouble. Big FU to him.

Wounded Bear

(58,743 posts)
20. None of them are really what I would call a "favorite" commentator of mine...
Sun Feb 4, 2024, 11:07 AM
Feb 2024

so I plan to usually skip that show.

Wounded Bear

(58,743 posts)
26. I don't hate him, but I do know where he's coming from...
Sun Feb 4, 2024, 11:21 AM
Feb 2024

MSNBC has several ex-repubs on payroll, some of whom I don't mind listening to.

Demsrule86

(68,715 posts)
47. Michael Steele has gone to the dark side IMHO...he helped Trump today...I find
Sun Feb 4, 2024, 01:58 PM
Feb 2024

that unforgivable with what is at stake this year.

spooky3

(34,498 posts)
56. I like Simone too, and at one time I had hope for Michael S
Sun Feb 4, 2024, 02:27 PM
Feb 2024

but he clearly likes Dem policies only when they benefi him personally.

GreenWave

(6,777 posts)
28. This is the problem of MSNBC in general:
Sun Feb 4, 2024, 11:41 AM
Feb 2024

Kiss butt of oh the good old GOP days commentators. The GOP deserves to be smashed into oblivion for going along with this decade of bullshit, not resurrected.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
34. I give Mika a lot of credit for banning KellyAnn Conway for her "alternative facts" remark early on in the Trump
Sun Feb 4, 2024, 12:15 PM
Feb 2024

Administration (mi scusi, TSF's administration).

hydrolastic

(488 posts)
30. when I watch Michael Steele I always remember he is a Republican,
Sun Feb 4, 2024, 11:56 AM
Feb 2024

Even though he has defected so to speak his premiss is and always will be to get rid of SS empower the rich(trickle down theory ) and pack the courts. Prove me wrong!

Blue Idaho

(5,060 posts)
37. Michael is triangulating
Sun Feb 4, 2024, 12:28 PM
Feb 2024

As an old school R he is hedging his bets and hoping that the old party will rise again. Republican or not, he is still an arch conservative.

Judi Lynn

(160,649 posts)
31. I believe this is only the 2nd week for this program, think they should be given adequate time to get their bearings.
Sun Feb 4, 2024, 11:59 AM
Feb 2024

I have been horrified to see the network advance Alicia Menendez so quickly, being the daughter of New Jersey "Democratic" Senator, Cuban-American Robert Menendez, who's once again being heavily investigated for corruption. I'm convinced the network hopes to attract viewers from the US Cuban-American "exile" base, which controls Florida politics and its 29 electors, as well as heavy influence in New Jersey, etc. That group has had political clout which far exceeds any justification. The Cuban "exiles" have retained their power simply by being unique pawns in play in the State Department's maniacal obsession with Cuba which actually has existed since the late 1800's, long before the Cuban people rebelled against the last US puppet, bloody dictator Fulgencio Batista.

Alicia has been propelled up the ladder at MSNBC rapidly from her first day, while she clearly lacks skills, experience, or simple personal presence to justify her appearing anywhere in their lineup. She stands in stark contrast to their other hosts.

Michael and Simone are warm, open, bright, engaging, personally invested, concerned, knowledgeable, conscientious. Michael has clearly leaped totally free of his early Republican political association well before they all went totally criminally insane together. He has been a popular guest with other MSNBC hosts for years, always bringing something worthwhile to bear in conversations.

TSExile

(2,501 posts)
66. Agreed!!
Sun Feb 4, 2024, 09:20 PM
Feb 2024

This is only the second week on the air, and I like all three of the hosts. I will give them more of a chance.

Bucky

(54,087 posts)
36. I saw Steele on the "Bulwark" podcast this morning and I thought he made some great points
Sun Feb 4, 2024, 12:23 PM
Feb 2024

He's always had a weird demeanor, which is common among Washington insiders. But if you're going to watch shows like that, you have to be prepared to hear a few things you don't like

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,847 posts)
39. Steele rarely adds anything constructive or particularly insightful to panel discussions.
Sun Feb 4, 2024, 12:37 PM
Feb 2024

He's just a phone chain pundit, repeating things that strike him as sounding like conventional DC wisdom.

Vinca

(50,318 posts)
40. I'm with you. They go on and on and on about whatever new poll says that is bad for Biden and
Sun Feb 4, 2024, 12:38 PM
Feb 2024

completely ignore his overwhelming victories. It seems the real poll - our votes - doesn't count for them. As for that Phillips slime ball, they failed to mention the investigation into the phony information to get him on the Indiana ballot. You'd think Phillips was a real contender if you watched that show. He's a joke at this point. He couldn't even beat Williamson in S. Carolina.

Quakerfriend

(5,455 posts)
44. Exactly! Shame on them for bringing
Sun Feb 4, 2024, 12:52 PM
Feb 2024

Phillips on, given the investigation into the
falsification of signatures.

And, M. Rajan was just on CNN interviewing Santos about the candidates running for his seat.

jaxexpat

(6,862 posts)
41. A black Republican in 2024 is an intentionally aberrant political "coquette" with questionable aims and motivations.
Sun Feb 4, 2024, 12:40 PM
Feb 2024

hunter

(38,337 posts)
42. Television news and opinion is worthless.
Sun Feb 4, 2024, 12:44 PM
Feb 2024

I quit a long time ago. My wife never paid any attention to it. We read all our news and opinion. Reading gives one time to pause and sharpen one's critical thinking skills. Television simply smothers you in bullshit, a continuous gish gallop of garbage and distractions.

In retrospect I think this was always true, even when I was young and my dad was watching Walter Cronkite on the CBS Evening News. Only the volume has changed. What was once half a half hour of garbage interspersed with some little gems of rationality, is now a 24/7 fire hose of raw sewage.

Demsrule86

(68,715 posts)
50. True, I get most of news and ideas here on DU or by looking a poll internals...also
Sun Feb 4, 2024, 02:11 PM
Feb 2024

by reading articles from a variety of newspapers. I have watched some of the House shenanigans also.

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,667 posts)
65. The interview with Marc Elias on the 14th Amendment SCOTUS disqualification case was great
Sun Feb 4, 2024, 04:45 PM
Feb 2024

I have read all of the parties' briefs and a good number of the amicus briefs. I agree with Marc's analysis. If the SCOTUS does its job and apply the law and use the right history, then the SCOTUS should disqualify TFG




Demsrule86

(68,715 posts)
54. I am starting to feel that way. Dean Phillips said TFG listened better than Biden, he
Sun Feb 4, 2024, 02:18 PM
Feb 2024

(Phillips) agreed with TFG about the border and Biden was too old with almost no pushback...Screw Phillips and the so called panel.

bluestarone

(17,067 posts)
59. Agree. I so looked forward to Veshi in the morning.
Sun Feb 4, 2024, 03:22 PM
Feb 2024

Now it's all changed. I know Velshi is still on later, but it was better the other way.

Demsrule86

(68,715 posts)
64. I think Velshi gets treated like dirt...Menendez is not good. I don't like Jen Psaki that much either.
Sun Feb 4, 2024, 04:27 PM
Feb 2024
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