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Nevilledog

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Wed Feb 21, 2024, 06:31 PM Feb 2024

"If you dress like that and you get raped and I'm on the jury, he's gonna go free."





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“If you dress like that and you get raped and I’m on the jury, he’s gonna go free.” - Pastor Bobby Leonard of the Bible Baptist Tabernacle in Monroe, NC


3:23 PM · Feb 21, 2024



This hatred towards women, fueled by Christofascists, is nauseating.
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"If you dress like that and you get raped and I'm on the jury, he's gonna go free." (Original Post) Nevilledog Feb 2024 OP
It sure is. nt CaliforniaPeggy Feb 2024 #1
Any bets how pandering for primary votes Nikki will say she feels about this? Freethinker65 Feb 2024 #2
Asshole isn't very Christ-like, is he? Aristus Feb 2024 #3
If you knew Monroe, you'd be surprised if there was a trial in the first place. OldBaldy1701E Feb 2024 #4
"It's the woman's fault she gets raped." Irish_Dem Feb 2024 #5
I kind of bdamomma Feb 2024 #29
Early in my career I worked with sex offenders. Irish_Dem Feb 2024 #33
Mental Health professions bdamomma Feb 2024 #39
I loved my job. Irish_Dem Feb 2024 #40
It's sad bdamomma Feb 2024 #46
Yes Irish_Dem Feb 2024 #63
Your last bdamomma Feb 2024 #65
I hope I did some good. Irish_Dem Feb 2024 #66
We all bdamomma Feb 2024 #75
Yes I hope love triumphs over evil. Irish_Dem Feb 2024 #76
I have learned a lot from this exchange and admire everyone in the field. erronis Feb 2024 #88
Thank you! Irish_Dem Feb 2024 #94
Victim blaming MorbidButterflyTat Feb 2024 #82
Yep. Irish_Dem Feb 2024 #84
Is he an ex con pastor? pwb Feb 2024 #6
A man is a man RussBLib Feb 2024 #7
Post removed Post removed Feb 2024 #18
"a man's a man!" ecstatic Feb 2024 #8
Not even inappropriately. Beartracks Feb 2024 #55
Those long ankle length dresses CANADIANBEAVER69 Feb 2024 #9
Easier ways to get out of jury duty lame54 Feb 2024 #10
Thought the same thing. MorbidButterflyTat Feb 2024 #83
If you didn't get up and walk out of this sermon when he said this you are just as complicit!! Pisces Feb 2024 #11
And with both middle fingers held high. Delmette2.0 Feb 2024 #24
I assume he is trying to get out Jury duty Johonny Feb 2024 #12
This guy is a prime example of why so many of us DESPISE religion. Sky Jewels Feb 2024 #13
What would Jesus say..... ? LakeArenal Feb 2024 #14
I think he said - if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out. Probatim Feb 2024 #53
God! What a DEPOLORABLE excuse of a human being! ProudMNDemocrat Feb 2024 #15
If you wear an expensive suit like that thucythucy Feb 2024 #16
Exactly right Seinan Sensei Feb 2024 #97
If you preach like that SarahD Feb 2024 #17
Fuck you. SamKnause Feb 2024 #19
Tracey Ullman skit - What were you wearing? Poiuyt Feb 2024 #20
That was perfect. Thanks for sharing. Delmette2.0 Feb 2024 #28
Brilliant. Sad but true. Irish_Dem Feb 2024 #34
Facebook wouldn't let me post this pfitz59 Feb 2024 #61
We need to end the patriarchy redqueen Feb 2024 #21
Pastor Bobby just about sent me over the edge. democrank Feb 2024 #22
So all men are rapists? Isn't rape a sin? TexasBushwhacker Feb 2024 #23
Sure looks like Pastor Bobby's lights are on but nobody's home struggle4progress Feb 2024 #25
And it's also the idea that mcar Feb 2024 #26
Somebody needs to interview Pastor Bobby's choir boys. limbicnuminousity Feb 2024 #27
If you spew hatred for women like that, and some woman runs you down with her car, and I'm on the jury, Scrivener7 Feb 2024 #30
Pastor Bobby sure has a purdy mouth. Kind of enflames my groin. Don't know if I could control myself around him. Midnight Writer Feb 2024 #31
Scum HandmaidsTaleUntold Feb 2024 #32
Watch out for your family, friends and community around that sleazebag. Bluethroughu Feb 2024 #35
Very true bluestarone Feb 2024 #69
These people are exhausting. AltairIV Feb 2024 #36
He just told every man in that congregation Demobrat Feb 2024 #37
Just like Trump Celerity Feb 2024 #41
He oozes av8rdave Feb 2024 #38
I wonder how many women he has sexually assaulted. Irish_Dem Feb 2024 #42
Wild ass guess. Yavin4 Feb 2024 #43
Disgusting! Niagara Feb 2024 #44
Not surprising, his church's Facebook is temporarily disabled TlalocW Feb 2024 #45
thx. i left a message BlueWaveNeverEnd Feb 2024 #58
"All men are monsters" chowmama Feb 2024 #47
What an ignorant stupid misguided human being. Also 1980 called and they want that statement back...Ya dumb fuck nt GuppyGal Feb 2024 #48
totally agree with your comment. I would add hateful. nt BootinUp Feb 2024 #49
Post removed Post removed Feb 2024 #50
AmurKKKan Taliban Traildogbob Feb 2024 #51
Well, Mr. Pastor, if you talk like that and you get bludgeoned megapuzzler Feb 2024 #52
I think we have a pervert pastor here. Emile Feb 2024 #54
I think bdamomma Feb 2024 #77
Pastor Bobby confesses he's out of control, will rape, thieve, pillage without warning. Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2024 #56
Then rape that christofascist pig I_UndergroundPanther Feb 2024 #57
WTAF is wrong with these sick fucks?: Initech Feb 2024 #59
I've been with women when both of us were as naked as we were made . . . Journeyman Feb 2024 #60
Whole societies and religions have rules for females Aussie105 Feb 2024 #62
This is creepy on a lot of levels. "Send your boy out there" ?? Iris Feb 2024 #64
What a really sick human being. A man is a man and if he sees some woman's skin or figure .... Botany Feb 2024 #67
The trump/MAGA America Norbert Feb 2024 #68
A Mans a Man! BadGimp Feb 2024 #70
So, by his own reasoning......... DFW Feb 2024 #71
I like that. Boomerang it back on them JanMichael Feb 2024 #73
The old "she was asking for it defense." Sick. The only way to comply with MAGAt and evangelical rape laws Martin68 Feb 2024 #72
Obviously what he said is shocking and disgusting XorXor Feb 2024 #74
Republicans for Rape. hadEnuf Feb 2024 #78
If a man can't control himself when he sees a woman wearing shorts, he is a danger japple Feb 2024 #79
Men who can't control themselves around women in public murielm99 Feb 2024 #87
But, but, but altar boys don't wear shorts..... RSherman Feb 2024 #80
If you're an evil conservative and you get punched in the face IronLionZion Feb 2024 #81
Sick Demovictory9 Feb 2024 #85
Sick Demovictory9 Feb 2024 #86
And the best part is what he said right after that ... SupportSanity Feb 2024 #89
He's just mad cuz he hasn't been able to muster a woody for decades. flying_wahini Feb 2024 #90
Huh! Katcat Feb 2024 #91
This pastor must also think women in swimsuits at a public beach are asking to be raped! Bluejeans Feb 2024 #92
I suppose Republicans would prefer women to wear burkas, but then what excuse would they give for condoning rape? Lonestarblue Feb 2024 #93
I would have him investigated. This is beyond sick. twodogsbarking Feb 2024 #95
Hope your daughters don't ever wear shorts, Rev! they'll love you for your thoughts. Wonder Why Feb 2024 #96

OldBaldy1701E

(5,269 posts)
4. If you knew Monroe, you'd be surprised if there was a trial in the first place.
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 06:35 PM
Feb 2024

Home of Jesse Helms, after all.

Irish_Dem

(49,175 posts)
5. "It's the woman's fault she gets raped."
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 06:36 PM
Feb 2024

"She was asking for it."

I weep for this country and where it is headed.

Irish_Dem

(49,175 posts)
33. Early in my career I worked with sex offenders.
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 09:23 PM
Feb 2024

(I am a retired mental health professional).
I conducted court ordered psych evaluations for those sitting in jail for various crimes.
Many were sexual offenders.

Some of them had been abused themselves.
Or seriously neglected, yes some had mother issues.
Or seriously immature and consensual sex was frightening on some level.
Or angry at women for various reasons.
Some liked the game of the crime.
And the power trip.
Or pretended the woman came on to them.

It was a mixed bag. Sometimes the childhood stories were quite sad.

The child sexual offenders were difficult for me.
Hearing grown men say the three year they had raped, asked for it.

After a couple of years of this, I asked to move to other clinic duties.
It was not something I wanted to do long term.

I of course stayed professional and wrote the court reports in a neutral clinical way.
The courts and judges wanted certain information and opinions about diagnosis and
treatment.

Actually I thought about those reports after hearing Judge Engoron's ruling recently.
The judges always wanted to know if the people sitting in jail that I was evaluating
expressed any remorse, guilt about what they did. Sometimes they did, sometimes not.
But the judges took that into account in their decisions.

bdamomma

(64,042 posts)
39. Mental Health professions
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 09:42 PM
Feb 2024

are very taxing and mentally draining dealing with those dilemmas every day. But the country really lacks Mental Health professionals they are needed more than ever.

Irish_Dem

(49,175 posts)
40. I loved my job.
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 09:54 PM
Feb 2024

I miss it. But yes it is very demanding, challenging and entails a great deal of responsibility
and high standard of care.

Yes managed care oligarchs ruined the mental health profession some decades ago.
They swooped in took over the mental health portion of the insurance company policies
and then just blatantly refused to pay for mental health services or paid a pittance.
Even though patients had mental health benefits in their policies.
The rich corporations pocketed the mental health money for themselves.
It was a real crime, but nothing we could do about it.
Vulture capitalism.

So psychologists were working for free or for peanuts
and that cannot last long.

Many professionals went out of business, and got other jobs.
I was able to hang in there, I ran my own small practice.
And kept my costs low.

Things did pick up, but mental health was not something many wanted
to take a chance on in terms of a career.

And now getting a PhD is so expensive to become a therapist.
So now there are more master's level therapists.
And psychiatrists make the lowest amount of all medical specialities.
So there is a real shortage.



bdamomma

(64,042 posts)
46. It's sad
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 10:31 PM
Feb 2024

because I see a need for Mental Health professionals to be called upon when police go on domestic home calls, and escalating the situation instead of de-escalating when they confront a mentally challenged person.

Irish_Dem

(49,175 posts)
63. Yes
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 07:27 AM
Feb 2024

Mental health staff in hospital psych units work with acting out dangerous people all the time
and we don't need to kill them to get them under control. We have training on how to take down
out of control patients without hurting them. Get them in restraints and then sedate them if need be.

One of my family members works in a psych emergency dept of a hospital and is only 4ft 10 in tall.
With some help, she can take down a very big patient out of control who is threatening and dangerous.
I think if she can do it, police officers could too.

I did a bit of working with the police on domestic calls, it was not always a safe situation.
I worked for a county mental health clinic and was the liaison to the police and fire depts and courts.

This was 40 years ago and there were not so many guns back then but it could still be dangerous
when families are fighting. And once when I was riding with a police officer doing night patrol,
we happened to come across an armed robbery in progress, we were right at the scene by chance.

The officer I was riding with was a petite female, first female officer to be hired by the city.
And none of the males in her city dept would come to back her up just out of spite.

Thank god she was married to a man in the sheriff's county dept and help did come eventually from them.
But she apprehended the criminals by herself. My life flashed in front of my eyes during this situation.

I think if a mental health person is going to ride around with officers on patrol and going to domestics
they needs some police training as well in case the situation escalates.

Another option is for the police to learn how to identify mentally ill people and how to handle them
safely.

bdamomma

(64,042 posts)
65. Your last
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 09:34 AM
Feb 2024

sentence is all so true. Irish_Dem you have had some interesting work experiences. Just know your work wasn't in vain, and helping people who have challenges you have helped just goes a long way.

Irish_Dem

(49,175 posts)
66. I hope I did some good.
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 10:02 AM
Feb 2024

I had a 40 year career and always did my best.
I hope I leave the planet a little bit better than when I got here.

erronis

(15,643 posts)
88. I have learned a lot from this exchange and admire everyone in the field.
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 06:09 PM
Feb 2024

Thank you Irish_Dem for your sharing and your very/very hard work.

Our current US capitalistic-oriented environment doesn't make it easy to handle societal issues since dealing with these issues doesn't increase someone's bottom line - at least quickly enough.

Irish_Dem

(49,175 posts)
94. Thank you!
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 06:29 PM
Feb 2024

That is nice of you to say.

I did love my job. It was always fascinating, never boring, a challenge and kept me on my toes every day.
Plus I really like helping people better get better and doing well.
That makes me happy.

Right there is not a lot of glory or money in the psych field, hard for the oligarchs to rip off the system any more.
They did that once and that is why there is a shortage in the field to this day.



pwb

(11,390 posts)
6. Is he an ex con pastor?
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 06:37 PM
Feb 2024

There are lots of them. They learned pastoring in prison. Saved and all that?

RussBLib

(9,075 posts)
7. A man is a man
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 06:38 PM
Feb 2024

...what a horrible copout. Everything can be excused if the man was tempted. This is shades of Islam where the women have to dress head to toe so that men are not tempted. Men bear no responsibility if they are tempted.

Some fucking preacher.

https://russblib.blogspot.com/?m=1

Response to RussBLib (Reply #7)

ecstatic

(32,849 posts)
8. "a man's a man!"
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 06:40 PM
Feb 2024

Excuse me? Someone needs to look into his past. He considers rape to be something that every man would do (they just can't help themselves when they see women dressed inappropriately?)!!

CANADIANBEAVER69

(380 posts)
9. Those long ankle length dresses
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 06:41 PM
Feb 2024

that cover from the neck to the toes and long covered uncut hair, sounds like a religious frock. Of what religion, who is to say. Bet those women never get raped eh?



If what a women wears arouses you to the point of cat calling and more extreme actions like rape, then it's you who needs to check yourself. You sick F*ck

Johonny

(21,058 posts)
12. I assume he is trying to get out Jury duty
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 06:49 PM
Feb 2024

If you tell the judge this, he will likely have some choice words and fines for you before your dismissal.

Sky Jewels

(7,252 posts)
13. This guy is a prime example of why so many of us DESPISE religion.
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 06:54 PM
Feb 2024

It is a poisonous force all over the planet. The stupid stories were made up by men to further male superiority. And of course their cruel asshole of a sky wizard deity, God, is a male.

Deep down, I think most "believers" know it's all really a bunch of fictional bullshit.

Probatim

(2,586 posts)
53. I think he said - if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out.
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 12:16 AM
Feb 2024

If your hand causes you to sin, cut if off.

Not sure what he said about your penis or this asshole's brain.

ProudMNDemocrat

(17,053 posts)
15. God! What a DEPOLORABLE excuse of a human being!
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 07:00 PM
Feb 2024


I pity this man's wife, his adult daughters, granddaughters, and any great-granddaughters.

SarahD

(1,433 posts)
17. If you preach like that
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 07:01 PM
Feb 2024

and say misogynistic shit and you get punched and I'm on the jury, we'll try to think of a good joke where the punch line is "not guilty."

limbicnuminousity

(1,407 posts)
27. Somebody needs to interview Pastor Bobby's choir boys.
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 09:00 PM
Feb 2024

He's admitted himself incapable of self-control. He, by his own words, is a walking rape case waiting to happen. Interview the choir boys.

Scrivener7

(51,142 posts)
30. If you spew hatred for women like that, and some woman runs you down with her car, and I'm on the jury,
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 09:06 PM
Feb 2024

she's going to go free.

Midnight Writer

(21,970 posts)
31. Pastor Bobby sure has a purdy mouth. Kind of enflames my groin. Don't know if I could control myself around him.
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 09:10 PM
Feb 2024

I don't think a jury would convict me if I should ever let my man-lust overcome me and use Pastor Bobby like a meat puppet.

You can't blame a fellow for succumbing to his God-given instincts, am I right?

32. Scum
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 09:22 PM
Feb 2024

He channels the demonic and doesn’t even realize it. People like this need to be removed from society. Let him live in a cave.

AltairIV

(424 posts)
36. These people are exhausting.
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 09:31 PM
Feb 2024

So he's openly admitting that men are inferior to woman? They lack self control, are at the mercy of random impulses, and have no sense of responsibility to others or themselves. What a first class dick.

TlalocW

(15,401 posts)
45. Not surprising, his church's Facebook is temporarily disabled
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 10:19 PM
Feb 2024

However, if you'd like to contact the church, you can go here

https://www.bbtmonroe.com/contact

chowmama

(419 posts)
47. "All men are monsters"
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 11:28 PM
Feb 2024

say the males who are looking for the right to be the monsters they want to be.

I was going to say 'animals', but I think better of animals. I think better of all the men I know who are not monsters and sho have no desire to behave like them. That would be, by far, the majority of the men I've ever met. The few males (not men) of the other sort I've met, I have yeeted as far out of my life as possible, as quickly as possible.

GuppyGal

(1,748 posts)
48. What an ignorant stupid misguided human being. Also 1980 called and they want that statement back...Ya dumb fuck nt
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 11:29 PM
Feb 2024

Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Traildogbob

(8,958 posts)
51. AmurKKKan Taliban
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 11:55 PM
Feb 2024

Spreading like MAGATs on the dying carcus of our country. They will consume every freedom.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,528 posts)
57. Then rape that christofascist pig
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 12:55 AM
Feb 2024

And ask him if he enjoyed it. Wonder what he would say? Remind him it was gods will.

I hate these fucking misogynist trash.

Journeyman

(15,061 posts)
60. I've been with women when both of us were as naked as we were made . . .
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 02:56 AM
Feb 2024

and nothing happened more than conversation.

But then, I'm a decent person who respects others, kind of like the philosopher this reprobate claims he follows.

Aussie105

(5,584 posts)
62. Whole societies and religions have rules for females
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 06:18 AM
Feb 2024

based on their 'need' to behave and dress in a manner that does not arouse a man's passions.

Sad but true.


Botany

(70,754 posts)
67. What a really sick human being. A man is a man and if he sees some woman's skin or figure ....
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 12:24 PM
Feb 2024

….. it is then OK to rape that woman because his penis controls all his actions and his
God is fine with that line of thinking. I pity any daughter he might have, his wife, and or
any women he may run across because he just publicly admitted to being really fucked
up in his cognitive thoughts.

Btw North Carolina has felony rape laws on its books about the type of behavior Pastor
Bobby was down with if some man or teen saw some “side boob.”

Norbert

(6,054 posts)
68. The trump/MAGA America
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 12:30 PM
Feb 2024

If a girl or woman wears shorts, a man can ravage her and there will be no repercussions. Maybe it is the only way some of these animals, him included, can get in a female's pants.

Yeah. Perfect.

DFW

(54,680 posts)
71. So, by his own reasoning.........
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 12:45 PM
Feb 2024

"If you dress in an expensive suit like that, and some guy robs you at gunpoint, if I'm on the jury, he's going to go free."

Martin68

(23,169 posts)
72. The old "she was asking for it defense." Sick. The only way to comply with MAGAt and evangelical rape laws
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 12:47 PM
Feb 2024

would be for women to dress in Handmaiden style, covering the entire body. But they condemn Islamic societies that require exactly the same kind of dress. Insane theocrats.

XorXor

(643 posts)
74. Obviously what he said is shocking and disgusting
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 01:01 PM
Feb 2024

But what I find most appalling is that he wasn't jeered as soon as he said it. The fact that people didn't get up and walk out of the sermon is something I can't understand. It's one thing for a single person to have outlandish and reprehensible views, but it's terrifying that an entire church is walking to follow that person without question.

The fact that he isn't getting backlash from his own people is what bothers me the most.

japple

(9,892 posts)
79. If a man can't control himself when he sees a woman wearing shorts, he is a danger
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 02:06 PM
Feb 2024

to society and should be castrated (chemically).

murielm99

(30,813 posts)
87. Men who can't control themselves around women in public
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 05:47 PM
Feb 2024

need to be kept indoors. They are children who need to be controlled by responsible adults.

IronLionZion

(45,772 posts)
81. If you're an evil conservative and you get punched in the face
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 03:34 PM
Feb 2024

Rape is still a crime. The perp is still a rapist and shouldn't go free. I hope this pastor isn't on such a jury.

Shorts? Really?

SupportSanity

(267 posts)
89. And the best part is what he said right after that ...
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 06:11 PM
Feb 2024

"I'm right though" "I know I'm right"

Said to an audience that absolutely will not disagree with him.

Katcat

(245 posts)
91. Huh!
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 06:17 PM
Feb 2024

And people wonder why I don’t go to church. Why should I when the church is full of the ABSOLUTE WORST people in the world!

Bluejeans

(71 posts)
92. This pastor must also think women in swimsuits at a public beach are asking to be raped!
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 06:21 PM
Feb 2024

I'm almost at a loss for words about this pastor and his comment about women, shorts and rapists.

The only thing I can think is he would also think if a woman wears a swimsuit at the beach she's at fault if she's raped there.

As a 65 y/o husband, father and grandfather, all I can say is this pastor is an insult to men and manhood.

Lonestarblue

(10,342 posts)
93. I suppose Republicans would prefer women to wear burkas, but then what excuse would they give for condoning rape?
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 06:21 PM
Feb 2024
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