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https://apnews.com/article/inflation-consumers-price-gouging-spending-economy-999e81e2f869a0151e2ee6bbb63370afConsumers are increasingly pushing back against price increases and winning
By CHRISTOPHER RUGABER
Updated 6:30 AM CST, February 25, 2024
WASHINGTON (AP) Inflation has changed the way many Americans shop. Now, those changes in consumer habits are helping bring down inflation.
Fed up with prices that remain about 19%, on average, above where they were before the pandemic, consumers are fighting back. In grocery stores, theyre shifting away from name brands to store-brand items, switching to discount stores or simply buying fewer items like snacks or gourmet foods.
More Americans are buying used cars, too, rather than new, forcing some dealers to provide discounts on new cars again. But the growing consumer pushback to what critics condemn as price-gouging has been most evident with food as well as with consumer goods like paper towels and napkins.
In recent months, consumer resistance has led large food companies to respond by sharply slowing their price increases from the peaks of the past three years. This doesnt mean grocery prices will fall back to their levels of a few years ago, though with some items, including eggs, apples and milk, prices are below their peaks. But the milder increases in food prices should help further cool overall inflation, which is down sharply from a peak of 9.1% in 2022 to 3.1%.
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No, consumers are not winning. They have fallen behind and are powerless against corporate greed in every area: housing, food, transportation, insurance, etc.
The hyper-consolidated diaper industry is dominated by just two companies, Procter & Gamble and Kimberly-Clark, which own well-known diaper brands like Pampers, Huggies, and Luvs. The cost of wood pulp, a key ingredient for making diapers absorbent, did spike during the pandemic, increasing by more than 50 percent between 2020 and 2021.
But last year it declined by 25 percent. Did that drop in costs lead Procter & Gamble and Kimberly-Clark to lower their prices? Far from it. Diaper prices have increased to nearly $22 on average.
These corporate giants have no plans to bring prices down anytime soon. In fact, their own executives are openly bragging about how theyre going to expand margins on earnings calls. Procter & Gamble predicted $800 million in windfall profits as input costs decline. Kimberly-Clarks CEO said the company has a lot of opportunity to expand margins over time.
Its not just diapers while many corporations were quick to pass along rising costs, theyve been in no hurry to pass along their savings. A recent survey from the Richmond Fed and Duke University revealed that 60 percent of companies plan to hike prices this year by more than they did before the pandemic, even though their costs have moderated.
https://inequality.org/research/inflation-price-gouging/
Johnny2X2X
(19,254 posts)Incomes have risen higher than prices since before the pandemic.
But I do think there is residual price gouging that people are still dealing with.
Johonny
(20,945 posts)Its a great job market right now and the best way to get a substantial raise is to switch jobs.
Less people are living paycheck ti paycheck now than before the pandemic too, although you have to look that up for yourself as the media only writes negative stories.
MichMan
(12,001 posts)I'm retired and started working part time just to keep up. Maybe I need to unretire completely and work another job or two.
Hope22
(1,905 posts)Unless we are supposed to go back to the trenches and never lift a head up!
Johnny2X2X
(19,254 posts)Investment income is doing well too. Where I think retired folks are hurting is health care costs and pension income not being adjustable.
Bernie and Biden both share a desire to stop taxing social security and provide substantial increases. We can do better for our seniors.
MichMan
(12,001 posts)Quit acting like every single person has all this extra money sitting around and is doing way better. Not everyone got a 70% raise
Johnny2X2X
(19,254 posts)More people are doing better. Doesnt mean everyone is. But real income being higher is an average that means people can afford more than in 2019.
Bidens economy is better than Trumps for the majority of people. Simple as that.
niyad
(113,844 posts)just for starters.
Johnny2X2X
(19,254 posts)And utilities went down this Winter and rents were down last year.
niyad
(113,844 posts)per month, makes a world of difference. Wow. $4/month extra. Such largesse!
I don't know where you live, but here, utilities have gone up some 10%, and rents are skyrocketing, sometimes as much as 40%. So, please, do NOT correct me about what is going on in the city where I live, and you do not.
Johnny2X2X
(19,254 posts)But were talking about the country try as a whole and rent and utilities were down.
https://www.redfin.com/news/redfin-rental-report-november-2023/
https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/energy-inflation#:~:text=Energy%20Inflation%20in%20the%20United,Percent%20in%20July%20of%202009.
niyad
(113,844 posts)our own lived experiences., which you do not appear to think are of any importance, since you keep contradicting us. But do keep on. It has become fascinating.
Johnny2X2X
(19,254 posts)My own experiences arent relevant to the facts either. I could come post how my income is way up and my bills seem to be down, but thats just situation and doesnt reflect how the whole country is doing. Thats why I posted the stats about rents and energy prices, its more relevant than my own circumstances.
niyad
(113,844 posts)are not, when they contradict our own eyes, ears, and wallets. But do keep on with the stats, because they, of course, are more important than we are.
Johnny2X2X
(19,254 posts)The fact the country is doing better as a whole is in fact important is important too. And all we ever hear from is the people saying how horrible things are when the data shows in almost every way the economy is better today than before Covid. And Biden and his policies absolutely are the reason more people are doing well than not.
Hope your situation improves.
codfisherman
(70 posts)Have you ever stopped to consider that very possibly the statistics have been goal seeked and milked to make a point?
Melon
(60 posts)Home prices are up interest rates doubled. How does rent go down? Its up 40% in the last 3 years here.
Johnny2X2X
(19,254 posts)Melon
(60 posts)You cant be serious. Its up 40% here so only up 39.25% now? Avg rent is over $1900. My entire friends group is going broke just trying to live now. Income increases have not come close to covering increased cost. And that also doesnt mention my 30% insurance jump this year. Lets not pretend to all dont live in this country and see what inflation has done.
Mossfern
(2,600 posts)grrrrr.......
niyad
(113,844 posts)Mossfern
(2,600 posts)two at at around 16 pounds and one who weighs in at 23 pounds. It got to the point that the food they were eating was $71 per large bag! I threw up my hands and now they get Purina cat chow at $24 for the same size bag.
No more "snobby" pet food for this family.
niyad
(113,844 posts)gone up about 15 %, and his kibble almost doubled (and we are not talking the fancy stuff, either!). His litter has gone up about 30%, and that isn't the extreme stuff either.
niyad
(113,844 posts)off by the hundreds and thousands.
IbogaProject
(2,854 posts)These glib statistics capture those working, maybe only those working full time. America has a growing underclass. I pray our party cuts through this and get back to bread and butter issues and focus on policies that help 70, 80, 85 %. And only the top 15% get left out. It doesn't have to be for justice, the lower quintiles spend their earnings faster and more efficiently than the wealthy do. We need to shatter generation skipping tax scam "dynasty trusts", eliminate and tax "carry forward" private equity balances. And we need to go after non profits competing in the private market w unfair advantages. The largest landlords in Manhattan are two Universities, the Catholic Church and the Episcopal Diocese of NYC.
jimfields33
(16,097 posts)Auto insurance has doubled and homeowners is up a lot. Thats real money that isnt discussed much.
And some who are privileged got a pay raise. But not more then increased bills.
Melon
(60 posts)And in debt from the last 2 years I dont think it matters.
roamer65
(36,748 posts)Enough of it and it will bring on a recession. Then prices will correct across the board.
XanaDUer2
(10,834 posts)I refuse to contribute. I'll do without.
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JI7
(89,286 posts)Because people will just make sure to buy what they were going to earlier or wait until after .
But something sustained over time unless changes are made is what needs to happen.
Hotler
(11,475 posts)JI7
(89,286 posts)The suggestion was meant well. I was just explaining why it should be longer based on previous boycotts.
JI7
(89,286 posts)I recently went to. These were just fast casual type places where I got take out . It still seemed more expensive than maybe a few years back but I was fine with that .
Johonny
(20,945 posts)The low end restaurants around me all still up and running. The high end all seem to be doing okay. The mid end are all going out of business as the middle class is staying away in droves or going to low end to save.
LiberalFighter
(51,298 posts)I pay attention to what is being sold and where. There are items I will get at Kroger or at Meijer. I check prices online.
I get a can of Kong Liver Treat at Meijer for $6.99 which costs $12.99 at PetSmart, Walmart, and other places.
louis-t
(23,309 posts)I will not buy something that has increased in price by 40 or 50% unless I really need it. I refused to hoard tp during COVID, I now refuse to buy orange juice until the price comes down. $7.50 a gallon for Kroger brand is ridiculous.
jimfields33
(16,097 posts)Now it doesnt matter the price. I wont have to buy for the rest of my life. If my family wants it, they can have it after death.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,927 posts)Is the toilet paper in your will?
I have, since the Pandemic, been inclined to stock up on certain things, so I get it. Again
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,546 posts)homegirl
(1,436 posts)Special this week at one of my favorite super markets:
Pork loin $2.99 a lb. Last week at nearby super market $19.99 per lb.!!!
Guess what I am buying? Several pounds, to freeze after treatment in my FoodSaver. Best tool for saving money on groceries, EVER!
And let's boycott processed and convenience packaged foods and snacks!
rockbluff botanist
(72 posts)This is a fact: The rancher is going broke!!!
Here in Florida, Publix is trying to sell Select grade beef (not Prime or Choice) at previously the price of Kobe and Wagyu beef!!!! I quit eating beef. I'm not paying those prices. They put out very little in the way of steaks or roasts in the cases now. Just ground beef.
Friends of mine who previously swore they would not shop at Wal-Mart are now happily doing so.
Publix's owner is a ridiculous piece of work and always has been. A real Florida woman.
progressoid
(50,012 posts)They are notorious for squeezing every last cent from suppliers.
Not to mention their own history of gouging customers.
Link to tweet
The result? $16.3 billion in earnings, up 44% from the prior year.
Walmart also rewarded shareholders with $5.9 billion in buybacks and dividends.
When I say price gouging is driving inflation, this is what I mean.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,927 posts)The reality is that any time anyone actually checks prices, Walmart is NEVER the cheapest.
progressoid
(50,012 posts)She fell for the ad blitz that they were doing about $4.00 prescriptions. So I called them (and Walgreens and CVS and a few other places) to see what my drugs would cost. They were the second highest of the lot.
Hope22
(1,905 posts)Car is 18 months old, no tickets or accidents .insurance agent says increase is due to Covid! This in 1/24! Looking around for another company but of course the house and other things are bundled so each policy would have to be replaced. Really tiresome! Food prices are kept in check be shopping sale items, coupons and 5% senior discount on Tuesdays. 🤣😂 We try smaller portions, stopped using paper towels altogether and freeze all leftovers so they dont get pushed to the back of the fridge and wasted. Ahhh the life post Covid.
FakeNoose
(32,883 posts)We have very few tools to fight back, and it's worse in Pennsylvania. There's scant possibility of shopping around.
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,776 posts)We failed to realize in the daze of my husband's and other family members' serious illness that we should have canceled the insurance on his business van since he's not been able to work for a few years. COVID shutdown & loss of customers due to their financial setbacks, etc. He hasn't worked since his cancer dx, but we just didn't know what to do about the insurance on the van he was barely using. If only he could suspend it and reinstate at will if and when he can work again.
Anyway, we need to shop around before March 1st, but aren't sure we can find a better deal. There was an accident when my husband was preparing to take me home after my back surgery, he was flustered (in addition to the worries about me, my mom was there. Not a bad mother-in-law in general, but her presence was more of a burden than a help.) He ran over some low structure in the parking garage. Ripped up some stuff underneath and damaged the front quarter panel.
Anyway, back to my original question, if you would be so kind as to tell me: how is PA unique in ways that make it hard to get a fair price on Auto insurance?
rockbluff botanist
(72 posts)I broke out my mother's casserole cookbooks. Its a good and tasty way to make meals stretch.
My husband never really had eaten casseroles and raved😁
BWdem4life
(1,719 posts)Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,776 posts)Not sure they figure in the energy needed to wash & dry the cloth diapers (unless they're line dried)
Mossfern
(2,600 posts)Folding sunshine scented diapers is very Zen.
I used disposables only for trips.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,927 posts)The people I stayed with were quite startled, but I thought it was better than disposables.
TxGuitar
(4,218 posts)In daycare centers!
niyad
(113,844 posts)butter, a particular favourite treat of mine. Until a couple of months ago, a 32 oz. jar of the kroger brand was 4.29 (having risen steadily last year from 3.39). Then suddenly, for several weeks, there was no apple butter, not even a space on the shelf. Then about three weeks ago. . .apple butter. . . only. . .it was now in an 18 oz jar, for 3.99. Almost a 70% per oz. increase. 32 oz bottles of shampoo now 28 oz, $3 more. Half and half rose from 2.49/qt last summer to 3.29 just two weeks ago. And on. .and on. . .
durablend
(7,467 posts)niyad
(113,844 posts)understand the eggs. There was, after all, the avian flu. Just like I can sort of understand the tomato prices. But a great deal of it is greed and gouging.
homegirl
(1,436 posts)From $7.99 a dozen all the way down to $2.99 a dozen.
niyad
(113,844 posts)which is usually 5.99, was marked down to 2.50. I always check when I am in there. My King Soopers sometimes has very good digital account deals. Again, I always check.
dalton99a
(81,699 posts)niyad
(113,844 posts)of us are not exactly quiet when we talk to their home offices.
MichMan
(12,001 posts)niyad
(113,844 posts)Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,776 posts)This new subscription craze is one example. You buy a product but need to pay monthly to get all of the functionality. Also the ridiculously high cost of printer ink or other similarly necessary consumable products.
Apparently there's no quality control on products anymore, unless you count the customer demanding replacement of a faulty product. The evergreen concept of planned obsolescence is out of control. Many people finding expensive appliances breaking down and un-repairable (or repaired at great inconvenience and cost) just after the warranty runs out.
Oh, I could go on, but we all know. We just don't know what to do about it.
By the way, a childhood friend recently got in touch. We connected for the first time in over 30 years. Turns out she now lives 25 minutes from me, nowhere near where we grew up. On of my memories of her is that her mom made apple butter. It was a mystery substance to me. Very dark brown especially against the blindingly white Wonder Bread!
niyad
(113,844 posts)Last edited Mon Feb 26, 2024, 08:38 PM - Edit history (1)
interesting about the apple butter. My folks made it, as well. But it is not quite as startling on rye or pumpernickel bread as on the white stuff (was the bread at least toasted???).
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,776 posts)but I was a very picky eater of a child, strongly disliking potato chips, hamburgers, French fries, peaches, chocolate, carbonated drinks, and loads of other foods most kids loved. Unfortunately, I had no aversion to sugar, which would have at least made my pickiness beneficial health-wise. Even with sugar, though, I'd only eat certain specific sweets!
As for reconnecting with my old friend, it's mixed blessing. Nice to reminisce, but not nice to hear that she's a super religious Trump supporter. So, even with her living so close to me, I don't envision a rekindling of our once close bond!
niyad
(113,844 posts)supporter. I can definitely see there will likely be no bond rekindling.
Aussie105
(5,484 posts)Supermarket prices are horrible.
I suspect they are playing the 'maximise profits' game, ie crank up prices until sales go down, back off a bit, and then hover them up there.
We cut down on our regular shopping costs as much as possible, but the bills . . .
March bills: House insurance, electricity, water.
Will be eating up my retirement income for all of March, just those three.
So Jan and Feb become months to be stingy because March bills are coming.
Then April and May, save for the next flood of bills in June.
Repeat his cycle for the rest of the year.
ON TOPIC:
It is OK to say the economy is healthy and people are doing well, overall.
It is also OK to say your own circumstances don't reflect that.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,927 posts)It hasn't gone up. And I'm still able to buy the groceries I need. Am I doing something wrong?
fierywoman
(7,705 posts)hatrack
(59,602 posts)I don't buy Doritos anyway, but this caught my eye walking down the aisle.
Really? Six bucks for five cents' worth of corn meal and a ten-cent bag??
Luckily, there's an Aldi just down the road.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,248 posts)Cars that are overpriced are staying on the lots too. There's an app called CoPilot that monitors used car prices, price reductions, grades the dealer, etc.