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American workers deserve to work for crap and dirt wages. They simply do not support labor causes. It is ok for a worker to work for starvation wages as long as it is not me attitude really sucks.
I hear this crap all the time. "If they don't like the work, then go find another job. The American people are responsible for jobs and income being in the crapper. Too many voted GOP for so long and most likely accepted the corporate propaganda.
If you don't support decent pay for the other guy, your job will be in the crapper. If not now, then someday in the future.
As far as I can tell we have lost our empathy, our soul and our conscience as a nation. What the hell are our troops defending?
DearHeart
(692 posts)Not everyone, but the vast majority. That vast majority of people do have the "I've got mine" or "As long as it's not me" attitudes, and unfortunately it will take those people to have something horrible happen in their lives (losing their jobs, etc.) for them to wake the HELL up! Unfortunately, the majority of my "family" has these attitudes.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)We covered the story and we got the pr release on Wednesday. After I read that...I predicted the record sales...I have no access to the numbers, neither do you.
Go ahead and call me a cynic. Oh and the mall I went to on public transit no less, since I expected it to be a pain in the you know what...had plenty of parking spots. But yup, Wednesday night I told hubby...no matter what happens, they will have the bestest, record breaking, Black Friday sale in the history of humanity...
When it came, I smiled. I got to credit their PR people. Call me a cynic, but I am reminded of Wolfowitz and company speaking of creating their new reality. Wait for Tuesday's at the latest, ahem...correction...when nobody is paying attention. Or worst, a Friday nooz dump.
aletier_v
(1,773 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)But damn it, I am just a cynic
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)W-M has been putting out a lot of BS to undermine the strikers. I had to laugh out loud when their rep said (as you quoted in your story) that "there are only a handful of associates, at a handful of stores scattered across the country" who would be walking out and participating in protests. There were several dozen W-M employess from throughout the area at ONE SoCal protest alone! (In Paramount, CA, where more than 1,000 protesters also turned out to support the strikers.)
Forgive me if I expect W-M's "record" Black Friday sales figures PR BS to be revised downward when the dust settles.
Warpy
(111,357 posts)and there's no way they could have the final figures.
They'd have announced this no matter what. I, too, will wait for the "correction" on Tuesday or Wednesday before I believe this.
Igel
(35,359 posts)Back in the late '90s their POS system was cutting edge. "World class" wouldn't do it justice.
They could poll their POS network nationwide hourly to monitor sales and inventory. If there was a national trend starting on the East Coast, there'd be restocking orders posted for the West Coast stores before the West Coast stores even opened.
You don't need final figures to say if you have record sales. You just have to have an interim figure that's reliably greater than the previous record.
True, however. Neither side is highly motivated to tell the truth, and while there was an easy way to check on the Walmart claim that only 50 or so "associates" were on strike I didn't see anybody do the check. That would be to have reporters just ask those claiming to be Walmart employees at the strikes to show their ID cards and state that they were scheduled to work when they were, in fact, protesting.
You'd need a mole to verify the Walmart claim. On the other hand, in a month or two the claim would be falsifiable. Just look at sales taxes paid by state.
Arcanetrance
(2,670 posts)Put yourself in a Walmart employees shoes your working there at minimum wage maybe a single parent trying to provide for a family. Now someone comes up to you and says let's walk out in protest your living in a right to slavery state where you can be fired for any reason they see fit. Now tell me how eager you'd be to lose even the most meager of money. American workers don't deserve this but it's so far entrenched in the system a protest won't fix the problem this is something that needs to be addressed and fixed from the top levels of power. Before I'm flamed as not supporting unions I was a member of the ufcw for many years.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Which is a lesson lost on many Americans.
And I talked to a few Walmart employees. They appreciate the effort, even if they will not join. They even know Walmart can afford to raise their salaries. It even, shocking I know, makes economic sense.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)reasons: inflation & increased population.
i'll wait for something better than walmart's press releases. preferably inflation-adjusted.
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
MrYikes
(720 posts)Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Six people now have more wealth than 42% of Americans combined.
http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012/07/walmart-heirs-waltons-wealth-income-inequality
coalition_unwilling
(14,180 posts)Walmart strike in the first 25 GD threads.
mythology
(9,527 posts)You are expecting people who have little, ie Wal-Mart workers, to strike when they are getting overtime and right before the holidays? Not exactly the best time. If you wanted more people to come out to protest what efforts were made to highlight this? I only heard about it here. Instead of trying to go nationwide, I think they should have picked one store to have people protest, in an area with lower unemployment. Trying to go national was just an invitation to fail because there are wide stretches of this country where unions aren't looked on favorably. Fight on favorable ground first.
But I think what you're really upset about is that you got your heart set on this and people didn't do what you wanted. Then make a better case, calling people names doesn't really help. People will come out for good causes, if properly motivated. I know of several people who didn't believe in politics who became enchanted because of Elizabeth Warren this year. But this strike was never set up to succeed.