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barbtries

(28,811 posts)
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 03:29 PM Mar 16

I've been on a zoom for 2 hours

at the county of Durham's convention. it is being held live but there was this remote option and I took it, because I'm still and perhaps from now on a bit of a recluse since the pandemic.

And I'm sitting here not really feeling it. I'm tired of these pep rallies where the whole message seems to be we didn't do enough. We must do more. It's our fault people don't vote. It's our fault republicans win. I'm not accepting the guilt. Suddenly I think I kind of get why people check out on politics. I'm sick of the dread of what's coming down the pike because of republicans. I hate canvassing, and don't think I'm good at it. I've phone banked with 0% success. I get so many texts every day that I block and delete automatically, so I'm not going to start texting for the democratic party in NC. I'm not about subjecting others to something I really detest for myself.

I'll write post cards. I will probably take opportunities to register voters. I've already started conversations with my neighbors. It's not enough. In a state like NC it feels like it will never be enough. I'm not accepting the guilt, but I am really tired of the dread and the fear and the near despair that being politically engaged at this moment in history comes with.

Here in NC the republicans have done plenty, all in bad faith, to ensure their supermajority in the general assembly. They're running a Qanon nutcase who has advocated for the assassination of Presidents Obama and Biden.
[link:https://www.wral.com/story/gop-nominee-to-run-north-carolina-public-schools-called-for-violence-against-democrats-including-executing-obama-and-biden/21329633/]

They're running a magat for governor whose goal is to end abortion in this state. https://cardinalpine.com/2024/02/15/audio-mark-robinsons-endgame-is-a-total-abortion-ban-starting-with-a-6-week-ban/

the dilemma for me is I can't turn it off. the stakes are too high. Millions of oblivious Americans do not even have a clue. A lot of them vote, but it's just an afterthought. Here in NC all they need to know is the letter after the name. these people could win. I've been engaged politically to one degree or another all my life; mostly just being a person who pays attention. There's no unringing that bell or putting that horse back into the barn.

So I applied to be an election worker. I will look for opportunities to register people to vote. And I'll be scared, pissed, and courting despair from here until November if not beyond.
/rant off

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I've been on a zoom for 2 hours (Original Post) barbtries Mar 16 OP
I wish you all the best. TSExile Mar 16 #1
Impossible to stay positive all the time. Basic LA Mar 16 #2
Basic LA barbtries Mar 16 #3
I'm in L.A., in Sherman Oaks (the Valley) Basic LA Mar 16 #13
South Bay here. barbtries Mar 16 #16
I'm retired from Hughes Acft in El Segundo Basic LA Mar 16 #26
i'll check you out. barbtries Mar 16 #39
greetings from a former glendorian . lived in the san gaberial valley, the other valley untill late 1984 AllaN01Bear Mar 16 #32
A lot of Angelenos out in the Diaspora! Basic LA Mar 16 #35
dad and mum lived in monrovia before moving to glendora b4 i was born. the street where we lived AllaN01Bear Mar 16 #36
I agree...I can't stand the BS of Dems didn't reach out to this group or that group or they're not doing enough for this GuppyGal Mar 16 #4
Right? barbtries Mar 16 #5
Thank You for All that you Do in North Carolina, barbtries! Cha Mar 16 #6
it's very little. barbtries Mar 16 #11
It's what you can! dickthegrouch Mar 16 #18
like i said, barbtries Mar 16 #20
Too many on the Left too often believe themselves to be too noble & pure to bring themselves to vote elocs Mar 16 #7
I came from CA, barbtries Mar 16 #12
In California, that old baseball player rightwing trump fan, Steve Garvey, is facing Adam Schiff in November. C Moon Mar 16 #27
Call me crazy, but DownriverDem Mar 16 #19
i will admit barbtries Mar 16 #40
It's good that you're doing that work, but your honesty is a refreshing antidote... Silent3 Mar 16 #8
yeah. barbtries Mar 16 #14
You're doing the work of the saints, barbtries. calimary Mar 16 #25
you're so right. barbtries Mar 16 #41
I can certainly relate to your situation. llmart Mar 16 #29
None of us can do it all....and I commend you for what you ARE doing, which is a lot and all very necessary. Sogo Mar 16 #9
Thank you, barbtries. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Mar 16 #10
Welcome to Texganistan SARose Mar 16 #15
i can hardly imagine living in TX, barbtries Mar 16 #17
NC is beautiful I hear SARose Mar 16 #30
it is beautiful, it's a forest. barbtries Mar 16 #42
You deserve massive credit for venturing so far out of your comfort zone to help save democracy yliza Mar 16 #21
aww thank you. barbtries Mar 16 #23
I hear you Wild blueberry Mar 16 #22
Just like in public speaking first you need to NYC2ATL Mar 16 #24
When you get right down to it... GiqueCee Mar 16 #28
This is exactly what I think Barb is talking about! Trueblue Texan Mar 16 #31
But look at the results... GiqueCee Mar 16 #38
When complaining about Democratic leadership... Trueblue Texan Mar 17 #45
Point taken. GiqueCee Mar 17 #47
you're right. barbtries Mar 16 #43
I agree! Blaming Democrats for this mess is like... Trueblue Texan Mar 17 #46
Something to keep in mind is that the entire GOP platform and talking points are a terrorist campaign. Ford_Prefect Mar 16 #33
our party must. barbtries Mar 16 #44
Do what you are able and feel no guilt Hekate Mar 16 #34
Not everyone is cut out to do GOTV or phonebanking NanaCat Mar 16 #37
 

Basic LA

(2,047 posts)
2. Impossible to stay positive all the time.
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 03:35 PM
Mar 16

Our spirits fluctuate. Don't despair (except occasionally!)
Best wishes.

 

Basic LA

(2,047 posts)
13. I'm in L.A., in Sherman Oaks (the Valley)
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 04:22 PM
Mar 16

In fact I'm just now trying to figure out the road closures to avoid for Sunday's Saint Patrick Day Marathon.
It's running from Dodger Stadium to Century City!

barbtries

(28,811 posts)
16. South Bay here.
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 04:28 PM
Mar 16

raised in Torrance.

I've been in NC for over 16 years now but CA is still home, and I'm still homesick. Still have my 310 phone, too!

 

Basic LA

(2,047 posts)
26. I'm retired from Hughes Acft in El Segundo
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 05:28 PM
Mar 16

I was there 32 yrs and it seemed 90% of my co-workers were from Torrance.
I've taken pictures there. That's been my hobby, takings pics of the Los Angeles area as Basic LA on Flickr.

barbtries

(28,811 posts)
39. i'll check you out.
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 07:34 PM
Mar 16

We may know some of the same people; i never worked at Hughes but 2 of my best friends did.

AllaN01Bear

(18,443 posts)
32. greetings from a former glendorian . lived in the san gaberial valley, the other valley untill late 1984
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 06:03 PM
Mar 16
i heard all the nonsense since when i was a much younger man.
 

Basic LA

(2,047 posts)
35. A lot of Angelenos out in the Diaspora!
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 06:12 PM
Mar 16

I married a S.G. Valley girl from Arcadia and we lived in Alhambra awhile. Good to hear from you.

AllaN01Bear

(18,443 posts)
36. dad and mum lived in monrovia before moving to glendora b4 i was born. the street where we lived
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 06:15 PM
Mar 16

was named aerojet village as many of the families worked there including my late dad.

GuppyGal

(1,748 posts)
4. I agree...I can't stand the BS of Dems didn't reach out to this group or that group or they're not doing enough for this
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 03:41 PM
Mar 16

group or that group.

In case folks haven't noticed there is only ONE PARTY that has people from 'this group or that group' woven into the very FABRIC of the party !

dickthegrouch

(3,184 posts)
18. It's what you can!
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 04:36 PM
Mar 16

Some else tried to tell me I wasn’t doing enough. They are blocked. I am also junking all out of state requests for money since I consider out of state funding of campaigns interference.
I got a total of nearly $300 worth of texted requests just yesterday. I wish it was illegal to share any data with other organizations, campaigns, charities, etc.

barbtries

(28,811 posts)
20. like i said,
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 04:53 PM
Mar 16

i block and delete them all now. Some of them i probably would have responded to, like the one that asked if I planned to vote for Biden. I am over the texts. Candidates i never heard of. Causes I never signed up for. I wish I had the money to give to all the good causes but I don't. I ran out of work last year and am on the poverty train at the moment. that's just a fact.

elocs

(22,610 posts)
7. Too many on the Left too often believe themselves to be too noble & pure to bring themselves to vote
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 03:52 PM
Mar 16

for the lesser of 2 perceived "evils". They find Biden to be imperfect, but Trump to be evil so they don't vote for either. Unfortunately, when they withhold their votes from Biden that only helps Trump since our presidential elections are binary.

In over 50 years of voting I've voted exclusively for Democrats and voted because I consider it to be my civic duty, my job which I do because it's the right thing to do. It's like working to support your family--you just do it without the need to be excited or motivated all the time but because it's the right thing to do. For me, voting is that way. If we could all vote with that philosophy, Trump would not just lose, he would be crushed at the polls.
It's our duty to vote and people have died and sacrificed for that right. It is precious.

barbtries

(28,811 posts)
12. I came from CA,
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 04:19 PM
Mar 16

where typically i voted in the primaries and the general elections. Since i moved to NC, I vote in every single election. In CA you can be fairly certain, as a Democrat, that you will get the outcome you want even if you don't vote. Not here. Here, I've learned really well how to lose. I don't like it one bit. But that vote is what I have. Out of 3 sons, I've only taught the youngest well enough that he votes consistently. The eldest is still in CA and will vote in November. The middle one, pretty much the same; he'll vote in the general election. where did i go wrong...

C Moon

(12,221 posts)
27. In California, that old baseball player rightwing trump fan, Steve Garvey, is facing Adam Schiff in November.
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 05:35 PM
Mar 16

The gop just loves their celebrities to run for political office.
Sadly, it usually works.

I hope Schiff kicks his ass.

barbtries

(28,811 posts)
40. i will admit
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 07:47 PM
Mar 16

that i loathe republicans so much i will never vote for one. if there's a non partisan race and I can't determine what party the candidates are, I don't vote in the race. I figure even if a republican says something I agree with, the person's probably lying and will do the opposite once in office. it's that bad.

i would love to see the party disintegrate and a viable 2nd party rise up. but don't see it happening in my life unfortunately.

Silent3

(15,281 posts)
8. It's good that you're doing that work, but your honesty is a refreshing antidote...
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 03:58 PM
Mar 16

...to the nonsensical rallying cries that we often get here on DU to "stop worrying, stop complaining, and GOTV!"

As if that stops the worry! And as if putting out all that effort doesn't make it hurt all the more when you lose!

barbtries

(28,811 posts)
14. yeah.
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 04:24 PM
Mar 16

i mean, I want to be optimistic. I wish I didn't carry the family worry gene, but I do. And, I'm a fish out of water in this state. in 2008 NC went for Obama. it's been downhill ever since. Karl Rove's wet dream. ALEC's model state. aargh

One thing keeping me sane is the Meidas Touch. I stopped watching pretty much all tv news some time ago due to frustration. MTN is run by lawyers who are pro-democracy and they tell it the way it is without fucking around with any both sides bullshit.

calimary

(81,511 posts)
25. You're doing the work of the saints, barbtries.
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 05:25 PM
Mar 16

It’s awfully easy to get depressed and disillusioned these days. I know how that feels and I battle it, too. But the better angels in me won’t let go, and for that, I’m grateful!

And btw, it’s a smart move - what you did here. VERY smart, shrewd, and strategic. You posted here about it, where you’re surrounded by others of like mind. Just KNOW that we are all here and we’re behind you and we will lift you up like the “Morale Army” we are. You don’t stand alone.

You are NOT alone.

llmart

(15,555 posts)
29. I can certainly relate to your situation.
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 05:52 PM
Mar 16

I lived in NC for ten years - a job transfer from the north to the south. I actively campaigned for Harvey Gantt when he tried to unseat Jesse Helms. It was a gut punch when he lost to that bigot! I found that many people hated Democrats with a fiery passion but they could never state why (as if I didn't know the real reason why).

It is frustrating. I appreciate your honesty and hang in there. We can only do what we can at any given time. I really wish NC would see the light like Virginia did. Some day maybe.

Sogo

(4,997 posts)
9. None of us can do it all....and I commend you for what you ARE doing, which is a lot and all very necessary.
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 04:12 PM
Mar 16

We cannot know the outcome ahead of time, and so there is the emotional up and down of anticipation. In the meantime, we just "keep our nose to the grindstone." In Nancy Pelosi's great wisdom: "Don't agonize, organize."

Here's hoping for the best for us all....

SARose

(256 posts)
15. Welcome to Texganistan
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 04:25 PM
Mar 16

Here, too, and I feel your angst. People say contact your representatives…yah, nope.😂

Hear it all the time Dems need to get out the vote. Okay. I’m more than willing to help IF the DNC and the Texas Democrats would recruit some young people. I never see Democrats at local functions but, boy howdy, the Republicans are there - with cool freebies, too.

As to the spam texts, me too. Worst mistake I ever made was donating to the DNC and Vote Blue. I really do not need spam texts from Jamie Raskin and some random guy from up North.

Beto lit up this state. He was energetic and went to the small towns and cities that no politician of either party ever visits. Old school Dems weren’t happy. “Why can’t he just be Bob or Robert.” “Well, El Paso isn’t really Texas. Heck, they aren’t even in OUR time zone,”

Frustrating.

SARose

(256 posts)
30. NC is beautiful I hear
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 05:57 PM
Mar 16

Texas is hot, dusty, humid, and beautiful, too. Lots of weirdos, church ladies, MAGA, and some really nice folks. 😉

barbtries

(28,811 posts)
42. it is beautiful, it's a forest.
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 07:53 PM
Mar 16

many of the people are wonderful. it's been good for my 2 sons and I, changed our lives. but then again, it sucks. republicans have a vise like grip, racism is rampant, priorities are entirely skewed.

my life is so full of irony. one of those ironies is that i had to move to NC to make enough money to live in LA.

yliza

(74 posts)
21. You deserve massive credit for venturing so far out of your comfort zone to help save democracy
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 04:58 PM
Mar 16

Believe me, I know all about becoming even more reclusive since COVID, so I can understand what a huge undertaking this is for you. Major kudos and respect from me!

Wild blueberry

(6,664 posts)
22. I hear you
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 05:00 PM
Mar 16

Am in Wisconsin, so it's uphill here, too.
Please take care of yourself. Take a break, walk outside, hang with friends, read a book, sleep, and remind yourself there still is joy. Humor helps.
You are doing what you can. That is enough.
Thank you!

 

NYC2ATL

(56 posts)
24. Just like in public speaking first you need to
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 05:16 PM
Mar 16

1. Tell people what you are going to tell them.
2. Then tell them what you intend to tell them.
3. Then tell them what you just told them.

Democrats would be wise to follow this advice, regarding what they did for people.

GiqueCee

(642 posts)
28. When you get right down to it...
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 05:43 PM
Mar 16

... it's all about communication, and sadly, the Debbie-downers are right; Democrats absolutely SUCK at it. We twiddled our thumbs while the Nazis v.2 built, with the help of Rupert Murdoch, a supremely effective system that pandered to the ignorance and malice of the lowest common denominator of the social equation, and by so doing, amassed an army of idiots, a confederacy of dunces, who are overjoyed at the opportunity to throw their lives away to ensure the continued comfort of the oligarchy.
Now there is no media that isn't controlled by fascists, to one degree or another, so we have no megaphone with which to even reach those who might be encouraged to turn toward the light, instead of the foul-smelling darkness of authoritarianism. Too many people would embrace a dictatorship because it's easier than thinking for themselves, or taking responsibility for their actions.
So, another civil war is becoming a very real possibility. I'm old, but I'm still a deadly marksman, and I'll do whatever it takes to preserve The Great American Experiment, and I know I'm not alone. That's the only warning you're gonna get, traitors.

Trueblue Texan

(2,445 posts)
31. This is exactly what I think Barb is talking about!
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 06:00 PM
Mar 16

I doubt anyone here twiddled their thumbs, I know I damn sure didn’t! And I also am tired of being told what Democrats did or didn’t do! No one asked ME what I did or didn’t do! I can remember putting flyers on cars at Walmart during the Bush campaign, registering voters, working elections, working in the local precinct, as well as the county Democratic Party. I phone banked, I went door to door working for local candidates, driving an hour and a half in a broken down car every other day to phone bank for candidates across the nation, participating in local Democratic events to facilitate candidates meeting constituents. Democrats did PLENTY! I donated thousands of dollars. If anything it was that we couldn’t get anyone to take us seriously—because I know I am not alone in that I saw all this shit coming LONG before the media caught on.

Every night I find myself screaming at MSNBC: I TOLD you this shit was going to happen! I told everyone I knew, but it fell on f*ing deaf ears! You cannot make them hear! Stop wearing us out further with what Dems didn’t do! Some of us did EVERYTHING!

GiqueCee

(642 posts)
38. But look at the results...
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 06:56 PM
Mar 16

... we still wound up with the worst possible excuse for a human being prostituting the Oval Office for his own benefit, instead of the most qualified candidate we've seen in nearly a century.
I know how frustrating it is, believe me, and we are supremely fortunate to have Biden leading the charge, but my point is, the slime out maneuvered us. They played a long game, starting at the local level, and keeping it quiet until they had accrued the power of numbers. Then they brought out the Big Sticks.
I think it was John Cornyn of Texas who accused Bill Clinton of "never meeting an education bill he didn't like." And that was a pejorative. As I said, they appeal to the lowest and meanest, and derive their support from their inchoate resentments, which are legion. A semi-literate, ignorant electorate is easy to manipulate into voting against their own best interests because they want someone to blame for their own inadequacies. That's hard to overcome.
I didn't twiddle my thumbs, either, but time and time again, decision makers at the top certainly did. Consider the "advisors" who told John Kerry he should apologize for the Swift-boaters' lies!
Self-righteousness doesn't win; but standing up to thugs and exposing their perfidy just might.
No one has all the answers, and I'm sorry, I never intended to offend the tireless efforts of unsung heroes like yourself. But I'd like to see my rage, and yours, reflected in the actions of those in control of messaging at the national level, and take it to these sonsabitches until they're just puddles of blood and bone. Figuratively speaking, of course.

Trueblue Texan

(2,445 posts)
45. When complaining about Democratic leadership...
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 11:56 AM
Mar 17

...People should specify LEADERSHIP, not merely Democrats!

barbtries

(28,811 posts)
43. you're right.
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 07:59 PM
Mar 16

i don't accept guilt. i was aware, i was protesting, i was doing every thing i could. still do, it's less, i'm getting old, but still do.

i blame republicans, i blame out of control capitalism, roger ailes, richard nixon, republicans, republicans, republicans, corporate media's huge failure...all I would blame Democrats for is letting Nixon off the hook. If he'd been prosecuted, we would be in a very different place. Even if Reagan or one of the bushes had been, trump could not have happened. republicans are so, so bad. if I blame Democrats at all it's for ever assuming that republicans are operating in good faith. they simply never are.

Trueblue Texan

(2,445 posts)
46. I agree! Blaming Democrats for this mess is like...
Sun Mar 17, 2024, 11:57 AM
Mar 17

...blaming the rape victim for the rapist's behavior!

Ford_Prefect

(7,921 posts)
33. Something to keep in mind is that the entire GOP platform and talking points are a terrorist campaign.
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 06:05 PM
Mar 16

It is designed to intimidate you and I, and all Americans of whatever persuasion, or faith, or family.
It is a propaganda program meant to frighten their own voters into electing a demagogue whose paranoid vision of America has poisoned their minds.
It is not merely an overstated difference of opinion.
The MSM is far to timid to speak this truth. I wonder if our party can.

barbtries

(28,811 posts)
44. our party must.
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 08:02 PM
Mar 16

that's why I get my news primarily from DU and the Meidas Touch Network. DU is a great aggregator of the real news.

NanaCat

(1,267 posts)
37. Not everyone is cut out to do GOTV or phonebanking
Sat Mar 16, 2024, 06:40 PM
Mar 16

That doesn't mean one has no other way to help Democrats get elected. Either the local party HQ, or a campaign is always on the lookout for people to help out in ways beyond GOTV. If you have a needed skill--bookkeeping/accounting, stats, admin, advertising, technical writing (many local candidates can use help with writing/proofing speeches), you could be a huge help in ways that don't involve high-volume public interaction.

Ask around, even ask campaigns directly, see if you have some skills they could use.

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