Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

The Polack MSgt

(13,200 posts)
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 07:15 PM Mar 18

Going forward, I will be less present here than I have been. I was just counseled about posting during duty hours...

Maybe you remember my post with the message from President Biden on March 8th:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100218758764

I posted it from my work computer during a break in the action, between a meeting and a teleconference in fact. However, it was flagged as inappropriate use of government resources (My work computer, and DOD bandwidth).

Well, I can't argue that they're wrong.

I was using both those things to post it.

So, I will not be on DU during my workdays, not even to post a lunch break playlist.

I'm not here to bitch that the deep state is against me, or to claim that my rights are somehow being violated.

That's the shit MAGA does.

Simply put, I thought my computer usage was within policy, but I was wrong.

So, if there are gaps in my responses, it's probably because I just don't like any of ya and I'm giving you the cold shoulder.

Or maybe I'm at work.

Peace

63 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Going forward, I will be less present here than I have been. I was just counseled about posting during duty hours... (Original Post) The Polack MSgt Mar 18 OP
No worries... Wounded Bear Mar 18 #1
I get it and agree with it, as long as it is consistently applied FHRRK Mar 18 #2
That's always been my stand on the matter too... Hugin Mar 18 #14
It never is. Anywhere. CrispyQ Mar 19 #48
Sorry about that greatauntoftriplets Mar 18 #3
As a fellow Cardinal fan, I am with you. GreenWave Mar 18 #4
What, no more great music? I guess we can stand it 'til you get home. brush Mar 18 #5
The only way one can get a grasp of the limits is to push a boundry. marble falls Mar 18 #6
I like that philosophy. Hugin Mar 18 #16
Hey, it's better to be safe and not suffer any consequences. There's a wide range of online uses that businesses SWBTATTReg Mar 18 #7
Understood, MSgt! OAITW r.2.0 Mar 18 #8
Yeah, it can be an issue. I use my company computer to post here from time to time. honest.abe Mar 18 #9
I don't believe that to be the case. My supervision's focus was not the content or the forum. The Polack MSgt Mar 18 #12
I always had to be careful to only go on during lunch haele Mar 19 #46
We will still be here for you when you are off duty. sheshe2 Mar 18 #10
Awww, well shucks ma'am The Polack MSgt Mar 18 #13
thanks for your active service. unlike the fake summer soldiers and patriots . AllaN01Bear Mar 18 #11
Fake summer soldiers? TomSlick Mar 18 #18
this thomas paine 1776 AllaN01Bear Mar 18 #25
The National Guard and Armed Forces Reserves came along long after 1776. TomSlick Mar 18 #32
I took it as a slam on the Guard/Reserves. former9thward Mar 18 #36
So did I, especially after the thanks to the MSgt's for his "active service." TomSlick Mar 18 #38
not at all. was refering to the false patriots of 1.6 and your screen nick reminded me of a cartoon of the same name AllaN01Bear Mar 18 #39
Great. I spent a total of 28 years in the Army between the active force and the Reserves. TomSlick Mar 18 #40
ah yes . i remember the slick willy slur so well AllaN01Bear Mar 18 #41
The real Tom Slick, was a bit mysterious and eccentric LeftInTX Mar 19 #53
I didn't know about that Tom Slick. He sounds like an interesting fellow. TomSlick Mar 19 #61
Speaking of the devil! LeftInTX Mar 19 #62
I got that reference. I feel proud that I remembered anything taught in an elective. The Polack MSgt Mar 18 #34
I never post on my work computer. I will post on my phone. Do you have access to your cell? All Mixed Up Mar 18 #15
No, I'm a couple hundred yards from anywhere I can use my phone. The Polack MSgt Mar 18 #30
Love you Polack MSgt. mahina Mar 18 #17
No Issue ProfessorGAC Mar 18 #19
Or you could file a suit with the SCCOTUS... Hermit-The-Prog Mar 18 #20
it's okay. barbtries Mar 18 #21
I can see their point TBH. The Polack MSgt Mar 18 #31
Thank you for defending us. surfered Mar 18 #22
As others have said, we'll be here, happy to have you join us when you can. Do they at least highplainsdem Mar 18 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author The Polack MSgt Mar 18 #33
Now, if you were posting to FR... ThoughtCriminal Mar 18 #24
Awww... BumRushDaShow Mar 18 #26
Option? DoBW Mar 18 #27
Totally cool orangecrush Mar 18 #28
Ah, doing to correct thing again. sinkingfeeling Mar 18 #29
I mean, I ain't paying you for this! Not that I mind, but... sir pball Mar 18 #35
Don't bdamomma Mar 18 #37
Skyving isn't a good idea when someone is looking over your shoulder and you can get caught Warpy Mar 19 #42
Yup. Gotta agree. COL Mustard Mar 19 #43
I can understand DFW Mar 19 #44
Well... 2naSalit Mar 19 #45
Lots of us here probably have gone through similar circumstances. lark Mar 19 #47
When phones first came out Farmer-Rick Mar 19 #49
Finally maybe we will get some peace around here. Prairie_Seagull Mar 19 #50
Right On Y'all! MayReasonRule Mar 19 #51
We will leave the light on for you MSgt! Niagara Mar 19 #52
Totally understandable IzzaNuDay Mar 19 #54
No worries, my friend! calimary Mar 19 #55
Appreciate your sure-footed strolls through music history /nt philly_bob Mar 19 #56
That is a really nice compliment Philly Bob The Polack MSgt Mar 19 #57
Maybe you just should have GAJMac Mar 19 #58
I'm just a normal clearance holding Shmoe. I'd already be a few months into a 20-year sentence If I'd done 10% The Polack MSgt Mar 19 #59
You are totally correct. GAJMac Mar 19 #63
Over thirty years ago I learned never post anything at work to the Internet that is not business related. Jacson6 Mar 19 #60

FHRRK

(518 posts)
2. I get it and agree with it, as long as it is consistently applied
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 07:18 PM
Mar 18

No non-gov sites of any kind, Facebook, Ebay, etc.

Hugin

(33,222 posts)
14. That's always been my stand on the matter too...
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 07:44 PM
Mar 18

Two words, "consistently applied."

Which, it never was in my experience.

CrispyQ

(36,547 posts)
48. It never is. Anywhere.
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 10:15 AM
Mar 19

Life isn't fair.

I felt for a short period of time we started to make the system more fair for everyone in America but those at the top, rich, mostly white men, got all pissy when the rest of us wanted a level playing field. We're not even asking for what they had, privilege galore, we just want a level playing field & look how they're reacting.

GreenWave

(6,790 posts)
4. As a fellow Cardinal fan, I am with you.
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 07:20 PM
Mar 18

Plus there are eyes out there, so I only use home computers NOT linked to my office.

SWBTATTReg

(22,191 posts)
7. Hey, it's better to be safe and not suffer any consequences. There's a wide range of online uses that businesses
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 07:25 PM
Mar 18

and governments allow their people, some don't mind when, as long as you get your work done.

Some only during after-hours. Others, no access (personal) allowed.

Best thing to do is from home, on your own system(s), your own access.

Mine was (access) multi-tiered, in that I had both batch and online systems (all in IT) reporting to me, thus, I had to have 24 x 7-day access to systems, thus, personal use was mixed in there, no issues as issues came up during all hours, thus, allowable.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,717 posts)
8. Understood, MSgt!
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 07:26 PM
Mar 18

I suppose this happens and I hope they enforce the rule for both sides. Anyways. we'll see you in the Music Appreciation threads!

honest.abe

(8,688 posts)
9. Yeah, it can be an issue. I use my company computer to post here from time to time.
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 07:30 PM
Mar 18

So far no one has said anything. However I suspect it is a violation though not enforced.

I hope your situation is not politically motivated.

The Polack MSgt

(13,200 posts)
12. I don't believe that to be the case. My supervision's focus was not the content or the forum.
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 07:34 PM
Mar 18

It was that I was active on a message board at work.

haele

(12,686 posts)
46. I always had to be careful to only go on during lunch
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 09:08 AM
Mar 19

Or before work started. Cubicles and "open office" work sucked for privacy. Until we started Telework and I could work from home and use my non-government mobile on the side when taking breaks.
Yeah, the personal use rules weren't always applied consistently, but then again, the users that were always on Facebook or had a Twitter Feed going in the background were either ADHD and needed that to distract the non-work related part of their brain so they could be productive or they were just keeping the seat warm and ignored until evaluation time, on their way to retirement or change of job title or station.
The worst were the people running a realtor or property management business on the side. Especially if they were in Management.

Haele

Haele

AllaN01Bear

(18,634 posts)
25. this thomas paine 1776
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 08:37 PM
Mar 18

The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of his country. -Thomas Paine, 1776

TomSlick

(11,120 posts)
32. The National Guard and Armed Forces Reserves came along long after 1776.
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 09:17 PM
Mar 18

The question remains. Were you disparaging the Guard and Reserve?

Our military in 2024 depends on the reserve components.

TomSlick

(11,120 posts)
38. So did I, especially after the thanks to the MSgt's for his "active service."
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 09:46 PM
Mar 18

The failure to give a direct answer to my question increases my suspicion.

AllaN01Bear

(18,634 posts)
39. not at all. was refering to the false patriots of 1.6 and your screen nick reminded me of a cartoon of the same name
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 10:14 PM
Mar 18

sorry for any inconvenience.

TomSlick

(11,120 posts)
40. Great. I spent a total of 28 years in the Army between the active force and the Reserves.
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 10:32 PM
Mar 18

The reference to the cartoon is intentional. I loved the cartoon as a kid. I have called myself Tom Slick ever since the Bill Clinton haters in Arkansas called him Slick Willy.

LeftInTX

(25,685 posts)
53. The real Tom Slick, was a bit mysterious and eccentric
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 02:33 PM
Mar 19




He was rich:


The major guiding principle in the life of Tom Slick was a relentless search for adventure and exploration of the unknown, sparked by his immense curiosity about everything and his willingness to embrace and investigate new ideas. He was a larger-than-life Texas oilman, entrepreneur, and explorer. He climbed mountains in the Himalayas in search of the legendary Yeti. He developed new breeds of cattle. He discovered major oil fields. He founded several research institutes in San Antonio, including the Texas Biomedical Research Institute, Southwest Research Institute, and the Mind Science Foundation. He even wrote and published on the topic of world peace in the 1950s; the Tom Slick World Peace Lectures at the University of Texas’ LBJ Library and the endowed Tom Slick Professorship of World Peace were established after his death in 1962.

In this revised and expanded edition of her previously published biography, Catherine Nixon Cooke, niece of Tom Slick, has mined personal letters, family papers, archives of the institutes founded by her uncle, and other resources to expand what we know of this enigmatic, energetic adventurer. In addition to relating his better-known exploits and pursuits, Cooke delves for the first time into Slick’s shadowy connections with the world of international espionage, including clues that Slick may have been involved in certain operations and interests of the OSS and its successor organization, the CIA.

Illustrated throughout with rare historic photographs, In Search of Tom Slick: Explorer and Visionary will introduce a new readership to this influential yet little known figure in modern history.

https://www.tamupress.com/book/9781623498719/in-search-of-tom-slick/

https://www.txbiomed.org/about/then-now/about-our-founder/

In 1941, Tom Slick founded Southwest Research Institute in South West San Antonio. He used to own a bunch of ranchland in the area, but it had been subdivided, however a park and I believe a creek named after him remain. https://sanantonioreport.org/the-trailist-visit-the-loch-ness-monster-at-tom-slick-park/

TomSlick

(11,120 posts)
61. I didn't know about that Tom Slick. He sounds like an interesting fellow.
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 07:30 PM
Mar 19

I'm not at all mysterious and eccentric would be kind.

I was thinking about the cartoon Tom Slick (and Slick Willie) when I started using the name.

[link:

|

LeftInTX

(25,685 posts)
62. Speaking of the devil!
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 08:14 PM
Mar 19

Savannah Kriger and her 3-year-old son, Kaiden, were tentatively identified as the bodies found in a ditch near Tom Slick Park in San Antonio, Texas. A gun also was found at the scene.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/03/19/savannah-kriger-kaiden-san-antonio-murder-suicide/73029398007/

The Polack MSgt

(13,200 posts)
30. No, I'm a couple hundred yards from anywhere I can use my phone.
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 09:06 PM
Mar 18

I never know what the weather is either, I work in a secure room.

It's a walk just to get to the lockers we secure our cells in

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,525 posts)
20. Or you could file a suit with the SCCOTUS...
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 07:57 PM
Mar 18

I'm sure the Subversive, Corrupt Court of the U.S. will uphold your freedom to exercise your DU religion.

barbtries

(28,817 posts)
21. it's okay.
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 08:01 PM
Mar 18

they're watching you that's for sure. I work from home now, but i used to have DU open at work all the time. Fortunately as long as I got my work done I was never sounded about it. I always got my work done. That should be the bar imo, but I guess the DOD has a different take.

The Polack MSgt

(13,200 posts)
31. I can see their point TBH.
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 09:15 PM
Mar 18

No one expects us to be on a task 480 minutes a day, but I took the time to extract the text from a White House message and post it to a message board. At work on my work laptop. I should have forwarded the email to my personal Gmail account and posted the OP from my personal computer.

The content of the post and the tenor of this message board were not focal points. In fact, my division chief said that he didn't see what the big deal was - The content was ok as far as he could see.

The point wasn't WHAT i posted but how I did so.



highplainsdem

(49,077 posts)
23. As others have said, we'll be here, happy to have you join us when you can. Do they at least
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 08:17 PM
Mar 18

let you listen to music at work, or is that not allowed?

Response to highplainsdem (Reply #23)

BumRushDaShow

(129,806 posts)
26. Awww...
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 08:38 PM
Mar 18

I always used my iPad and my own hotspot when in the office and used my own laptop or desktop when working at home (when I was still working). I knew there would probably be an "Agent Mike" somewhere in my agency and it sure as hell wasn't worth it.

sir pball

(4,764 posts)
35. I mean, I ain't paying you for this! Not that I mind, but...
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 09:26 PM
Mar 18

…it's a fair cop. I got a stern lecture when I was at Energy 20 years ago for merely SSH'ing in to my home computer from DoE gear, I can't say I'm surprised at your dressing down…

Warpy

(111,409 posts)
42. Skyving isn't a good idea when someone is looking over your shoulder and you can get caught
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 02:25 AM
Mar 19

I suppose you can get a personal phone and post on that thing, although phone texting to an online site might suck all the joy out of the process.

At my last job, I showed my coworkers how to erase their tracks at the end of the shift. The PTB never did install keyloggers so it was a quick and easy procedure.

That little peckerhead Texeira most likely ruined it for government workers, especially military. It's going to take a hell of a long time for it all to blow over.

COL Mustard

(5,940 posts)
43. Yup. Gotta agree.
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 06:45 AM
Mar 19

I don't post during duty hours for the same reason. I look sometimes but don't post. If I feel a compelling need to add my two cents on something, I take my personal phone to someplace where I get signal (the Pentagon has lousy coverage for me, and that can be a good thing) and provide you all with my wisdom that way.

DFW

(54,465 posts)
44. I can understand
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 07:15 AM
Mar 19

Some 40 years ago, my outfit started making noises when I was taking weekends off to play concerts with my Dutch friends in Holland and Germany. They said, make a choice, do you want to work or play? Well, I wanted to play, of course, but playing music made me a few hundred euros a month, and working paid about 50 times that, with the promise of more if I was good at my job. Bye-bye my fun gigs.

Posting on DU is different, though. That is a question of finding the time at all these days. I'm now station chief for Europe, so I don't have anyone breathing down my neck, but if I have to be in Germany in the morning, France at noon, and Belgium in the evening, the bigger challenge is staying awake, not getting permission!

lark

(23,182 posts)
47. Lots of us here probably have gone through similar circumstances.
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 09:33 AM
Mar 19

Lots of jobs have a no personal use of internet policy, so responses from those folks are usually delayed, no problem. At least it's not a problem for me, I was under the same kind of corporate policies so completely understand.

Farmer-Rick

(10,222 posts)
49. When phones first came out
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 10:21 AM
Mar 19

We in the Navy could not use them to call home.

Just kidding. But before cells, about the time corporations were charging huge fees to make calls, we could not call home on Navy phones. It was considered
using government equipment for personal reasons. Especially don't use those huge bricks that first came out as mobile phones.

That stupid policy was quickly rescinded because so many family members calling to find out what happened to their loved ones. On shore, anytime a departments had to work late or had minor delays, the phones started ringing off the hook. Tying up lines and personnel for hours.

Prairie_Seagull

(3,344 posts)
50. Finally maybe we will get some peace around here.
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 11:37 AM
Mar 19

At least during your duty hrs. (he says nervously joking)

The tunes will be missed.

Target rich environment.

Kidding aside, I appreciate what you do MSgt.

Niagara

(7,707 posts)
52. We will leave the light on for you MSgt!
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 02:11 PM
Mar 19

You have to pretend that this is a solar light and not an actual candle.






IzzaNuDay

(363 posts)
54. Totally understandable
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 03:21 PM
Mar 19

when I was working, i would only watch DU from my computer, and wait until I arrived home to post. I never logged in from
work, I knew my former employer had keystroke monitors and didn’t want to take any chances.

So we’ll be patient for your ‘home grown’ posts!

calimary

(81,557 posts)
55. No worries, my friend!
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 03:30 PM
Mar 19

As our own Skittles has said, “someone’s always here” for whenever you feel comfortable weighing in and being heard. We’ll always have weekends!

Just stay safe, okay?


The Polack MSgt

(13,200 posts)
57. That is a really nice compliment Philly Bob
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 05:14 PM
Mar 19

Have some Philly Soul as a thank you.

O'Jays, "992 Arguments"

https://music.

&si=XY7pt6nEhHpP78qG

On the sweeter side, The Three Degrees, "When Will I See You Again"

https://music.
&si=-ecZqM9Zw9FQoXzB

GAJMac

(169 posts)
58. Maybe you just should have
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 05:14 PM
Mar 19

Maybe you just should have taken TS documents home and stored them in your bathroom. I hear that there's no punishment for that ...

The Polack MSgt

(13,200 posts)
59. I'm just a normal clearance holding Shmoe. I'd already be a few months into a 20-year sentence If I'd done 10%
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 05:18 PM
Mar 19

Of Donald the Menace did

GAJMac

(169 posts)
63. You are totally correct.
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 08:30 PM
Mar 19

I can accidently take my cellphone into a SCIF, turn right around and go back out, and still face consequences. There's no such thing as equality before the eyes of the law. This is just something we peons have to live with...

Jacson6

(356 posts)
60. Over thirty years ago I learned never post anything at work to the Internet that is not business related.
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 05:51 PM
Mar 19

It will come back to you and bite you in the butt.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Going forward, I will be ...