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"I'm sorry dad but I'm voting for Joe Biden" (Original Post) kpete Mar 19 OP
Just a note, 23,000+ of those post rape births were in Texas. Yeah, really. flying_wahini Mar 19 #1
It is up to 26K now. progressoid Mar 19 #11
Geez is that number accurate? Takket Mar 19 #18
Based on CDC data from 2016-2017 progressoid Mar 19 #20
No one who grew up in the Deep South would be surprised in the least - that I can tell you peppertree Mar 19 #28
That math works out to appx 2 rapes per county EVERY MONTH Volaris Mar 19 #34
Yes, but who's gonna pick all those fruits and vegetables.... wolfie001 Mar 20 #39
Kick.N/T Upthevibe Mar 19 #2
Powerful Emile Mar 19 #3
WOW!!! young_at_heart Mar 19 #4
Should be Rebl2 Mar 19 #12
that's a really good ad. barbtries Mar 19 #5
Yes! RainCaster Mar 19 #6
"You've never steered me wrong" aeromanKC Mar 19 #7
Yeah, that stuck out to me too. progressoid Mar 19 #15
Do you want to communicate wirh persuadable Republicans, or not? Hekate Mar 19 #17
Pretty clear at the end the father is dead HariSeldon Mar 19 #19
I assumed he died of Covid dflprincess Mar 19 #33
Why do you make the presumption he died of Covid? SlimJimmy Mar 20 #35
Because he was a Trumper dflprincess Mar 20 #41
Vaccinated, not vaccinated didn't seem to make a difference. SlimJimmy Mar 22 #44
Ha ha, no doubt! Sky Jewels Mar 20 #42
Seems he was always wrong politically. He may have intended to protect her, but didn't. we can do it Mar 19 #31
In large part of their dehumanizing treatment of women and girls... TSExile Mar 19 #8
How come I never see pro Democrat TV ads in red Kansas? KS Toronado Mar 19 #9
You don't see them in Indiana either. Emile Mar 19 #10
Wish they Rebl2 Mar 19 #16
They invest where their research tells them they have a chance. calimary Mar 19 #25
JoCoMO is unfortunately red. xmas74 Mar 20 #37
I never see ads like this in FL either. lark Mar 19 #13
And the same in my home state of Ohio.😞 we can do it Mar 19 #32
Yes! Johnny2X2X Mar 19 #14
EVERYWHERE is..........."EVERYWHERE." !!!!!! (no text) Stuart G Mar 19 #21
Yup Johnny2X2X Mar 19 #26
Wow! Powerful ad indeed! FailureToCommunicate Mar 19 #22
Dear Dad BaronChocula Mar 19 #23
I could have written that. TSExile Mar 20 #38
I never like to be presumptuous BaronChocula Mar 20 #43
This ad should be aired in all states every hour on the hour! Niagara Mar 19 #24
Sorry But - Lokee11 Mar 19 #27
"Literally every woman in the country should see this video." Mmmm...those who aren't white women who have voted WhiskeyGrinder Mar 19 #29
Oh man, that is good! Strong, direct, honest and undeniable. Everyone needs to see this! liberalla Mar 19 #30
Awesome ad but I would change the wording of the start LittleGirl Mar 20 #36
In general, I like the ad and it's message, Sogo Mar 20 #40

progressoid

(49,990 posts)
11. It is up to 26K now.
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 12:41 PM
Mar 19


More than 26K rape-related pregnancies estimated after Texas outlawed abortions, new study says

Texas saw an estimated 26,313 rape-related pregnancies during the 16 months after the state outlawed all abortions, with no exceptions for survivors of rape or incest, according to a study published Wednesday in the Journal of the American Medical Association.

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/health/article/texas-sees-estimated-26k-pregnancies-rape-18625692.php

Takket

(21,570 posts)
18. Geez is that number accurate?
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 12:55 PM
Mar 19

That’s 55 a day and that is just rapes that actually result in pregnancy. That means, at that rate, there about 620 pregnancies EVERY DAY in the USA. I had no idea the epidemic was that bad!

progressoid

(49,990 posts)
20. Based on CDC data from 2016-2017
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 01:16 PM
Mar 19

It does seem like a lot of "educated guesses" but not that far fetched.

Here is a comment from one one of the authors of the study

Dr. Delgado cites FBI data to suggest that the estimated 519,981 rape survivors in states with total abortion bans is implausibly high. The CDC data, which served as the basis for our estimates, is widely considered more accurate[1] than the FBI figures, which only encompass rapes reported to law enforcement agencies. Even accounting for that limitation, as Dr. Delgado did, still yields an undercount when compared with the most recent CDC data (from 2016-2017). That survey indicated that 2,857,000 women (and 340,000 men) were raped in the previous 12 months.[2] The CDC figures were obtained from survivors’ self-report of rape that were collected in a survey that used trained interviewers, multiple questions about non-consensual sexual contact, and an interview strategy designed to protect respondents’ safety, privacy, and comfort in responding to questions about traumatic and highly stigmatized life events.[3]

Our study focused on states with total abortion bans (vs all states) because we were specifically interested in estimating the number of survivors of rape in these states. The data we analyzed did not provide information about pregnancy outcomes.

Waris Chiranand suggests that we overestimated rape-related pregnancies in states with total abortion bans, but this apparent difference is related to the denominator used in the calculations. Researchers have estimated that nationwide between 2,872,000[4] and 3,422,000[5] women experienced rape-related pregnancy during their lifetime. The 2.4% estimate from Basile et al[4] that Chiranand cites is the rape-related pregnancy rate among all US women, not just survivors of rape. According to the CDC data we used, the estimated lifetime risk of pregnancy among survivors of rape is 14.9%.[2] Our analysis conservatively adjusted the figure for survivors of rape downward to account for the difference between annual and lifetime rape-related pregnancy rates.

We recognize that some of the terminology in our report was imprecise and left the impression that our estimate of the number of persons reporting a rape was the number of those who reported a single forced vaginal penetration. The CDC data on rape incidence, on which we based our estimates, quantified the number of persons who reported rape over a 12-month period, which may involve multiple incidents during that time, e.g., in cases of rape by an intimate partner or family member, which represent the majority of rape incidents.[2] We have requested a correction to clarify the terminology in our article. This correction does not affect the calculations or implications of our study: that an estimated 64,565 women and girls have experienced rape-related pregnancies in states with total abortion bans remains unchanged.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/article-abstract/2814274

peppertree

(21,635 posts)
28. No one who grew up in the Deep South would be surprised in the least - that I can tell you
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 02:53 PM
Mar 19

Even though many will pretend to be.

"It's just the n***ers," they'll assure you.

That said - there are 10,000 births every day in these United States. That 620 pregnancies might be unwanted/unplanned, is probably a conservative estimate.

Volaris

(10,271 posts)
34. That math works out to appx 2 rapes per county EVERY MONTH
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 09:36 PM
Mar 19

Abbott told us he was going to ban all rapes in the state. Somebody should put THIS PARTICULAR failure of his in an ad.

wolfie001

(2,240 posts)
39. Yes, but who's gonna pick all those fruits and vegetables....
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 10:26 AM
Mar 20

....think of those poor millionaire farm conglomerates.

progressoid

(49,990 posts)
15. Yeah, that stuck out to me too.
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 12:48 PM
Mar 19

And the "you've always done every thing to protect me" part.

If that were true, he would have fought to protect their access to bodily autonomy. That's what I do for my daughters and all women.

HariSeldon

(455 posts)
19. Pretty clear at the end the father is dead
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 01:04 PM
Mar 19

There was a time when Republicans had some measure of sanity to their views. Her father is gone and that may have happened before the Rs got crazy, and he never would have known.

dflprincess

(28,078 posts)
33. I assumed he died of Covid
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 09:18 PM
Mar 19

and, assuming he lived long enough, didn't get vaccinated because he listened to the anti-vaxers.

SlimJimmy

(3,180 posts)
35. Why do you make the presumption he died of Covid?
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 12:22 AM
Mar 20

Cancer, Heat attack, Stroke, Auto accident? I've been vaccinated twice, and received one booster. I've had Covid twice, the first time in the hospital for about a week. And about a month ago.

dflprincess

(28,078 posts)
41. Because he was a Trumper
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 01:00 PM
Mar 20

So probably not vaccinated. And it felt like it would fit with the rest of the ad.

SlimJimmy

(3,180 posts)
44. Vaccinated, not vaccinated didn't seem to make a difference.
Fri Mar 22, 2024, 12:12 AM
Mar 22

Have you been keeping up with the science?

Sky Jewels

(7,101 posts)
42. Ha ha, no doubt!
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 01:18 PM
Mar 20

All the while posting on Facebook that he was a “lion” and not a “sheep” and he “has an immune system” and Jesus will protect him he’s not afraid of the China flu hoax, and, oh, PS, imprison Fauci! And then when he got Covid: Please send money to my GoFundMe.

TSExile

(2,446 posts)
8. In large part of their dehumanizing treatment of women and girls...
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 12:36 PM
Mar 19

...I became the woman in this commercial. I will never vote R again...EVER!!! ♀️👊

KS Toronado

(17,239 posts)
9. How come I never see pro Democrat TV ads in red Kansas?
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 12:38 PM
Mar 19

Shouldn't we have a goal of turning the entire Country BLUE? Or at least purple?

Rebl2

(13,510 posts)
16. Wish they
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 12:49 PM
Mar 19

would, but think they believe it’s a waste of $ because most of the state is red. I think Johnson county is purple or maybe blue. Wyandotte is likely blue and maybe Douglas county. What county are you in. I am in KCMO and depends where you live in Jackson county. Suburbs are more red than blue unfortunately.

calimary

(81,267 posts)
25. They invest where their research tells them they have a chance.
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 02:21 PM
Mar 19

I hope we can strengthen our blue-state portfolio and add a few newcomers.

I keep hearing how, numerically, Democrats outnumber Republicans. But it only means something if they VOTE!!!!!

xmas74

(29,674 posts)
37. JoCoMO is unfortunately red.
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 04:46 AM
Mar 20

I think it could be more purple but our Trumpers are nasty and threaten violence.

You should see the Warrensburg city council election coming up in April. Two of the candidates are a hateful hot mess.

lark

(23,102 posts)
13. I never see ads like this in FL either.
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 12:42 PM
Mar 19

I fucking hate what Scott, Death Sentence and tsf have done to my once awesome state.

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
14. Yes!
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 12:43 PM
Mar 19

This needs to be everywhere. A lot of battleground states passed abortion protections so some voters in those states think their rights are protected no matter what. Trump's national abortion ban will superseed state law, people in states like mine, Michigan, need to understand that. abortion is on the ballot in November, and Trump is going to pretend he wants a 16 week ban only, but that's a lie as usual. The GOP will ban all abortion, no exceptions, and then they'll come after contraception, nationwide.

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
26. Yup
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 02:25 PM
Mar 19

I've literally heard women I know say they're so happy that Michigan protected abortion rights so they no longert have to worry about what goes on in Washingtyon in regards to abortion. There's enough people who think they're rights are protected thanks to their state that they don't understand that trump can and will take away their rights nationwide if given the chance.

BaronChocula

(1,557 posts)
23. Dear Dad
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 02:06 PM
Mar 19
I should have been voting Democratic long before this since your party has been running on an abortion ban since before I was old enough to vote. But you also taught me to give the republicans the white man pass - to give them the benefit of the doubt even while they fought to curb my rights. You also taught me the republican party was the party of national security and law and order. Now that I look back, it was all bullshit. Republicans have been so corrupt in office and ham-fisted at international crises. Meanwhile, the Democratic party has been defending the expansion of rights for all law-abiding people while at the same time demonstrating better attention to ethics and deft handling of issues, both domestic and international. Basically Dad, you brainwashed me. I'm leaving your white nationalist cult and I'm encouraging you to do the same.

BaronChocula

(1,557 posts)
43. I never like to be presumptuous
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 01:56 PM
Mar 20

Not being a white woman, I don't want to talk out of school, but I did write that based on years of observation. Thank you for confirming I wasn't off.

There must be something in the American water supply that makes people act outside of their interests in general. I've been thinking lately about all the people who want the wealthy and large corporations to pay their fair share of taxes, but elect Republicans. Or I think about voters who are more readily willing to punish the guy who is cancelling student debt for their economic condition rather than the guy who is happy to allow their debt to remain.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,347 posts)
29. "Literally every woman in the country should see this video." Mmmm...those who aren't white women who have voted
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 02:56 PM
Mar 19

Republican all their lives are actually probably ahead of the game on this one.

LittleGirl

(8,287 posts)
36. Awesome ad but I would change the wording of the start
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 04:40 AM
Mar 20

She says you taught me right from wrong but your republican votes now are held hostage by insane maga ideas that have been hurtful to women and minorities. The Democratic Party has definitely been helping me and our women causes for decades.

Sogo

(4,986 posts)
40. In general, I like the ad and it's message,
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 11:56 AM
Mar 20

but the music and the way her voice increases in drama, are almost over the top, approaching Katie Britt levels....

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