Trump wanted deaths and blood that day.

He wanted Pence and Democrats to be terrorized and harmed that day.
THIS WAS HIS GOAL.

Trump is a sadistic ruthless sociopath.

Even if the violence couldn't allow him to remain in the WH, it would be his punishment upon the country (non-Trump voters in particular) for not re-electing him. Retribution.

It was a clear message to everyone what would happen if they crossed him.
They would be terrorized and possible killed.

He greatly enjoyed the show in his honor.
Imagine being so powerful people will kill for you.
And try to overthrow the US government.

Trump loves the idea of burning it all down to get what he wants.
He damages the country and our institutions out of spite.
He loves doing this, just like Putin.

It sucked what happened to the cops that day, for a few it was the end.

But all the people heading off to jail are, (or were in many cases), RW MAGA sympathizer's. I don’t think many of the Oath Keepers or Proud Boys are feeling a lot of love for The Donald anymore. Especially the ones going to prison for him.

Oh, and I love what this is doing to the Republican Party. Toss in the religious fanatics they climbed in bed with finally managing to catch the car they’ve been chasing for decades by ending Roe and ultimately they have only succeeded pissing off every female and most males in the country which, in the end, will only run them over and end them.

that enough of the convicted who still love him to form a choir.

And I could believe that. It wouldn;t need to ba a large choir, and many of then are so brainwashed they won't let go no matter what.

But I might also note that this theory depends upon the premise that Trump** can read.

And he is indifferent to the pain and loss of others. To him, it is like a movie of his life. The other people involved mean nothing to him except in regard to how they serve him and his purpose. He is a monster.

Oh yes he loves stirring up trouble and drama.
He gets off on it.

He is evil.

He got to be a star on a big stage and he found it suited him quite well. If you watch Trump video clips pre-Apprentice and post-Apprentice, you see a very different man. A relatively soft spoken man became very loud, boisterous, and cartoonish. Apparently on the show's set, he was an absolute tyrant, an indication of what kind of president he would be.

I understand that some people are more self-absorbed than others, but I've never seen anyone quite like Trump. The insecurity and defensiveness is alarming.

And is quite typical of this kind of mental illness.

They can be quite dangerous, yes.
Especially when they get violent people to do their bidding.

if he has other people commit the violence. Then he can claim he isn't responsible for the outcome, but meanwhile he thrives on the pain and violence. So essentially nothing bad is ever his fault and he takes credit for anything good, real or imagined.

He has an answer for everything, but if he didn't have money and power, his lame excuses wouldn't fly. He has gotten away with too much for too long and that has only fed his sociopathy.

He is so manipulative and such a good liar that even intelligent, educated people are
more than happy to go to prison for him. Amazing.

Giving money, fame and power to someone like Trump is like giving a heroin addict unlimited
access to drugs. They eventually self destruct.

I have seen some sociopaths get away with their crimes over and over.
They really can work the system and people fall for their games all the time.

He is too cocky and arrogant to change his tactics, so sure they will always be effective. Just because something worked 100s or even 1000s of times is no guarantee and that is the downfall of so many sociopaths. They don't seem to know how to shift gears when their methods start to falter. They stubbornly double-down which is what Trump is doing right now. He embellishes his existing lies while making up new and more outrageous ones.

Donald Trump is not a very smart man, but yes he is clever. He has good street smarts, but being rather dumb and limited, he's used the same old bag of tricks for decades. Eventually people DO catch on. People in New York figured him out a long time ago.

He can file bankruptcy and walk away from his debt.
His money is probably hidden off shore.

And seems unlikely he will go to jail.

So he may not fare too badly.

As you probably aware I think he is a clever son of a bitch.
And he could walk away and be OK.

I can visualize all sorts of outcomes. My least favorite, however, is a massive stroke or heart attack. I want him fully conscious and aware of any repercussions he has to endure, especially if it includes financial devastation and the end of his "empire".

I can even accept (a bit reluctantly) no jail time as long as he suffers extreme public humiliation and defeat. I feel that is what would hurt him the most. I picture a man so physically and mentally destroyed that even his most loyal MAGA supporters will finally see him for who he is. A loser!

Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.

I don't like surprises.
And Trump certainly could have a few tricks up his sleeve.

Yes for a narcissist like Trump the worst thing is abject humiliation and to have all his lies exposed.
Being exposed as having no money and it was all a house of cards.
Of course he will try to blame everyone else.
Try to say he was robbed, etc.

But the public comments will be brutal and well deserved.
The ones about money and how he is stupid about money, and a terrible businessman will penetrate his
thin skin quite quickly. Yes that will get him like nothing else will.
Also just the thought of jail is said to make him afraid.
So let that hang over his head too.

Yes I do think it could destroy him.

Let him become the thing he fears most - a true loser. After all the things that he has done to other people over the years, that would be fitting retribution. We know what he fears by the names and insults he uses for other people; "loser" is usually on the top of the list.

Yep, I think we have pretty the same image in mind!

So even if evades legal justice, justice will still be served.
He will be known as the biggest loser in American history.
Which will wound him to the core.

But hey, at least he will be getting attention and he'll even end up in the history books, just like all those autocratic strongmen that he tries to emulate. If he ever bothered to pick up a book now and then, he might know that his idols came or will come to very bad ends.

"There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always." Gandhi

Trump will come to a bad end.

I am cautiously optimistic that we are right!

Let him become the thing he fears most - a true loser. After all the things that he has done to other people over the years, that would be fitting retribution. We know what he fears by the names and insults he uses for other people; "loser" is usually on the top of the list.

Yep, I think we have pretty the same image in mind!

BIGTIME works for me!!!

That is how I'd end the movie of his miserable life.

that many of the people described by that name.......are also serious SADISTS, also.......

Sadistic behavior is thought to be a smaller percentage of sociopathy.
For example sadists are only about 5% of all rapists.

Narcissists can also be sadists as well.

But people like Putin and Trump are sadists and enjoy tormenting others and causing pain.

that means being absolutely gleeful about causing other people pain? Schadenfreude? (sp) or something.......

schadenfreude /shäd?n-froi?də/
noun
Pleasure derived from the misfortunes of others.
Malicious enjoyment derived from observing someone else's misfortune.
Delight in another person's misfortune.

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I’ve been saying it ever since he walked down that escalator that this guy wants to be a modern day Adolf Hitler. From everything I’ve seen, he’s every bit as evil and manipulative and highly dangerous to our democracy. We as a country need to band together and realize what a major existential threat this guy is and do everything we can at the ballot box to stop him or else we’re all gonna get fucked big time.

He is a threat to every American, even to his cult who adores him.

He gets excited to know that people have died because of his actions. From J6 to the Kurds.

He can never even be allowed to drive down Pennsylvania Ave, let alone be in the WH. No portrait of him should be hung. Well unless, I can paint it.

He gets off on having the power to kill people.
Like Putin does.

I hope to see the day when that Orange POS gets his judgement for all the evil things he has done

Not a bug.

That just demonstrates how cold and calculating he is. Knowing someone had been shot just encouraged him to allow the mayhem to continue. Things were going exactly like he imagined it.

He's certainly cold. But I think he's miscalculating. And it's up to us to prove it.

very cunning.

WHY ???? This should have been the lead story during the J6 hearing about what TSF was/wasn't doing in the WH during the attack on the Capitol.

He doesn't particularly care WHOSE blood.

Depravity indeed!

Then goes back to watch for more.

Hoping it would become a stack.

When she wasn't, he still didn't care that someone was dead, but he was disappointed that he didn't have a D scalp to wave around.

insurrectionist

We rarely talked politics but I knew she was a repug. Haven't talked to her for about a year, as she is caring for her 95 year old mother. She went ballistic on the guy a few days ago. She says she doesn't like Biden but I have to convince her to vote for him to keep the orange asshole out of the White House.

... millions upon millions of our fellow citizens have no problem with that.

I absolutely believe it happened, but it's just now coming out? Was this in her book?

Just seems like too little, too late.

Worded a little differently, but it's there:

Today has been very enlightening.

as "During the attack Trump was handed a note that told him one of his supporters had been shot. He put it on the table and ignored it. Even when you support him, he doesn't care if you live or die."

Make it about them - it might break his hold on some of them.

All he cares about is himself.

would have been doing cartwheels, if it had been Pence......

Link to tweet

Sick fuck, indeed…..

Why would he care if anyone died? It wouldn't matter to him if thousands died. He would launch nukes if it gave him more power. And those disgusting, spineless creatures called Republican lawmakers were shitting their pants as they were led to safety. They fled like cowards, but they now overlook that police officers were killed and committed suicide and we were on the brink of losing our democracy. They now fully support the fascist pig responsible.

He has antisocial personality disorder. That means he has no conscience, no capacity for empathy, and no concern for anything except his own desires.

One reason people like him get away with so much crap is the fact that other people (those of us without disordered personalities like his) find it very hard to fathom that someone could really be that unconcerned with the welfare or feelings of others or that out of touch with the fact that some things are just plain wrong.

I'm pretty sure that's why some people keep making excuses for him when he says outrageous things. We've all heard them:

"Oh, he doesn't really mean that. "
"He doesn't mean that the way it sounds."
"That's just bluster/big talk!"
"You can't take him seriously."
"You have to take him with a grain of salt."

And on and on. The problem is, he does mean all those things, and he means them that way. We can't afford to lose sight of that, as hard as it may be to get our heads around it. Our resistance to believing anyone could really be that bad is exactly what makes him so dangerous.

He caught a lot of people off guard on January 6, 2021, because too many were still in denial about how evil he is. A lot of eyes were opened that day, but not in time to stop him. We can't let ourselves be caught flat-footed like that EVER again.

Yet I do.

Weird world we live in.

killed a million people with saying Covid was a hoax. And not to wear a mask. He's EVIL.