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Nevilledog

(51,104 posts)
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 07:01 PM Mar 23

"Please I Will Give Anything for You to Come Back"

https://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/exploration-survival/colorado-off-grid-deaths/

Talon Vance, 13, lived in an apartment complex in suburban Colorado Springs with his mom and Aunt. Other relatives lived nearby. Typically, he spent much of the week with his father, half brother, half sister, and grandparents, all of whom lived together not far away in a different town. All of that would change in August 2022: Talon’s mother, Rebecca Vance, had hatched a plan to disappear from Colorado Springs and go permanently off-grid.

Talon’s paternal grandmother, Marilyn Burden, still seems shell-shocked by his sudden departure. Her extended family lives in a ranch-style house on a small cul-de-sac; when I stopped by for dinner last September, there were plenty of people on the street, and lights were on in every home. Eric Burden, Talon’s father, stood in his driveway speaking to a friend. He ushered me inside and introduced me to his mother, and we sat down at the dining room table.

Just over a year before, on August 1, Rebecca had dropped by out of the blue around lunchtime with Talon in tow. She handed Marilyn a photo album and other mementos of Talon, who Marilyn had helped raise and who shared a bedroom with her other grandson, Ashton, when Talon was there. Rebecca, she said, told her they were leaving town, that they “had to move to be safe.” Safe from what? Marilyn asked. Rebecca wouldn’t explain. And she was vague about their destination: she said that she, Talon, and her younger sister, Christine, would be driving to West Virginia, where her father lived. Marilyn didn’t think Talon had ever met that grandfather. Then, to forestall the possibility that Marilyn would ask Talon about the trip, Rebecca whispered to her not to bring it up, because he doesn’t know—he thinks we’re just going camping.

Another relative was told a different story. Christine said to their stepsister, Trevala Jara, that they would be heading into the wilderness to live off the grid. Trevala, who saw Christine every week, knew that Rebecca had spent much of the pandemic glued to her computer, growing increasingly obsessed with conspiracy theories and the end of the world. She feared vaccines, technology, and the power of global elites, and thought that the only escape was to get as far away from other people as she could.

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"Please I Will Give Anything for You to Come Back" (Original Post) Nevilledog Mar 23 OP
Not here and now, but at some point conspiracy mongers will suffer all the Karadeniz Mar 23 #1
I don't think they will. GaYellowDawg Mar 24 #9
I had a visit to the other side. Souls reflected the good theyd done during Karadeniz Mar 24 #10
I believe in after-death justice. Elessar Zappa Mar 24 #12
How awful. Those poor people. Srkdqltr Mar 23 #2
:( struggle4progress Mar 23 #3
Oh, my God. I never heard anything about this. How was it not national news when it happened? Scrivener7 Mar 23 #4
I recall a story from a local newspaper there posted here in GD. Hugin Mar 23 #8
It wasn't widely reported at the time. Nevilledog Mar 24 #13
Kick dalton99a Mar 23 #5
Sad Story ProfessorGAC Mar 23 #6
What a gut-wrenching story. Fla Dem Mar 23 #7
So much to unpack in this tragic story UpInArms Mar 24 #11

Karadeniz

(22,516 posts)
1. Not here and now, but at some point conspiracy mongers will suffer all the
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 07:28 PM
Mar 23

suffering they caused for others.

GaYellowDawg

(4,447 posts)
9. I don't think they will.
Sun Mar 24, 2024, 12:36 AM
Mar 24

I used to think that we lived in a universe where karma of a sort exists. I don't think that any more. I think all of the people who have pushed all this conspiracy crap and made money off of it will just take their money, fade into the background, and live quietly prosperous lives with no consequences whatsoever.

Karadeniz

(22,516 posts)
10. I had a visit to the other side. Souls reflected the good theyd done during
Sun Mar 24, 2024, 12:46 AM
Mar 24

incarnations. Some souls were floating way out in the cold void, so without merit were they. I transfused a bit of my soul energy into them to remind them of how Goodness feels. That experience was so unlike anything my mind could've created based on my earthly life, so I believe it!

Elessar Zappa

(13,991 posts)
12. I believe in after-death justice.
Sun Mar 24, 2024, 12:29 PM
Mar 24

Whether it’s some kind of punishment or just not being able to move on. If I’m wrong then I won’t care, I’ll be dead!

Scrivener7

(50,949 posts)
4. Oh, my God. I never heard anything about this. How was it not national news when it happened?
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 08:01 PM
Mar 23

That poor child. And his poor deluded mother and aunt.

Hugin

(33,147 posts)
8. I recall a story from a local newspaper there posted here in GD.
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 08:39 PM
Mar 23

I thought it was such a tragic story.

UpInArms

(51,284 posts)
11. So much to unpack in this tragic story
Sun Mar 24, 2024, 12:15 PM
Mar 24
Then Matt showed me a video warning about something called 10/4. “You heard of that?” he asked. I had not.

October 4, 2023, was the day the federal government had scheduled an extra-long test of the Emergency Alert System. Matt believed that this was ominous for several reasons: the FCC and other federal agencies were involved, and this time an emergency tone, which used to be sent only to radios and TVs, would be broadcast onto cell phones, too. “OK, so?” I asked.

Matt explained that “we’re pretty sure” the tone was designed to activate chips already present inside most of us, put there via vaccination and by eating certain brands of meat. “The tone is a special frequency that will activate the nanochips,” Matt explained, either killing people outright or turning them into zombies who will do the bidding of their masters, members of the international elite. “And do you believe that?” I asked.

“Enough that I’ll be taking the day off,” Matt replied, smiling. He and his wife planned to put their phones inside Faraday cages that day, to shield them from electromagnetic signals, and he would be armed as well. “I’ll be packin’!” he told me with a wink. Why? To protect them from zombies—or any other signs of the apocalypse. (Actually, Matt often carries a gun for self-defense anyway.)


And, finally …

But of course no reasonable person thinks that. The deaths of Rebecca, Christine, and Talon were the product of delusion, paranoia, and falsehoods relentlessly promoted online—and perhaps also of misconceptions created by reality shows where everyone emerges from the wilderness exhausted but still happy and alive. Those ideas and images reached a person who was vulnerable and isolated, and who turned them into her personal apocalypse.


Conspiracy theorists fall into a dark place where they are “special,” where they are in a place of secret knowledge….

It often ends in tragedy.
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