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(4,667 posts)
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 02:28 AM Nov 2012

What the base of the GOP really thinks about hispanics, immigration, demographics, and destiny.

This is what the base of the party thinks about immigration.

Below is an editorial written for the Investor's Business Daily.

http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/111612-633828-demographic-transformation-of-america-not-natural.htm?p=full&fromcampaign=1


GOP Date With Demographic Destiny By Government Design
By Mark Steyn


To an immigrant such as myself (not the undocumented kind, but documented up to the hilt, alas), one of the most striking features of election night analysis was the lightly worn racial obsession.


On Fox News, Democrat Kirsten Powers argued that Republicans needed to deal with the reality that America is becoming what she called a "brown country." Her fellow Democrat Bob Beckel observed on several occasions that if the share of the "white vote" was held down below 73% Romney would lose. In the end, it was 72% and he did.


The "white vote" will be even lower in 2016, and so, on the Beckel model, Republicans are set to lose all over again.


Hence the urge to get on the right side of America's fastest-growing demographic. Only 27% of Hispanics voted for Romney. But all that could change if the GOP were to sign on to support some means of legalizing the presence of the 12 million to 20 million fine upstanding members of the Undocumented-American community who are allegedly "social conservatives" and thus natural Republican voters.


Once we pass amnesty, argues Grover Norquist's Americans for Tax Reform, "future immigrants will be more open to the Republican Party because, unlike many immigrants who are already here, they won't have been harmed or insulted by Republican politicians."


So, if I follow correctly, instead of getting 27% of the 10% Hispanic vote, Republicans will get, oh, 38% of the 25% Hispanic vote, and sweep to victory.

(snip)


According to the Census, in 1970 the "Non-Hispanic White" population of California was 78%. By the 2010 census, it was 40%. Over the same period, the 10% Hispanic population quadrupled and caught up with whites.
That doesn't sound terribly "natural" does it? If one were informed that, say, the population of Nigeria had gone from 80% black in 1970 to 40% black today, one would suspect something rather odd and unnatural had been going on.


Twenty years ago, Rwanda was about 14% Tutsi. Now it's just under 10%. So it takes a bunch of Hutu butchers getting out their machetes and engaging in seven-figure genocide to lower the Tutsi population by a third.
But, when the white population of California falls by half, that's "natural," just the way it is, one of those things, could happen to anyone.

(snip)

Every four years, the Republican Party pines for another Reagan. But Ronald Reagan, governor of California for eight years, couldn't get elected in today's not-so-Golden State. Jerry Brown, Gov. Moonbeam back in the Seventies, now presides as Gov. Twilight, lead vampire of a malign alliance of unionized bureaucrats and a swollen dependency class that maintains them in office at the expense of a remorselessly shrinking productive class.


As the nation's demographic profile trends ever more Californian, perhaps Norquist's predictions of naturally conservative Hispanics pining for a new Reagan will come to fruition. Or perhaps Bob Beckel's more crudely determinative analysis will prove correct — that, in a multicultural society, jostling identity groups will stick with the party of ethno-cultural spoils.


None of us can know the future. It may be that Charles Krauthammer is correct that Hispanics are natural Republicans merely pining for amnesty, a Hallmark Cinco de Mayo card and a mariachi band at the inaugural ball.


Or it may be that, in defiance of Dr. Krauthammer, Grover Norquist and Little Mary Sunshine, demographics is destiny and, absent assimilationist incentives this country no longer imposes, a Latin-American population will wind up living in a Latin-American society.


Republicans think they're importing hardworking immigrants who want a shot at the American Dream; the Democrats think they're importing clients for Big Government. The left is right: just under 60% of immigrants receive some form of welfare.


I see the recent Republican proposals for some form of amnesty contain all sorts of supposed safeguards against gaming the system, including a $525 dollar application fee for each stage of the legalization process.


On my own recent visit to a U.S. Immigration office, I was interested to be told that, as a matter of policy, the Obama administration is now rubberstamping all "fee waiver" requests for "exceptional hardship" filed by members of approved identity groups.


(snip)


And so it will go for all those GOP safeguards. While Canada and Australia compete for high-skilled immigrants, America fast-tracks an unskilled welfare class of such economic benefit to their new homeland they can't even afford a couple of hundred bucks for the necessary paperwork. It's hardly their fault. If you were told you could walk into a First World nation and access free education, free health care, free services in your own language and have someone else pay your entrance fee, why wouldn't you?


So, yes, Republicans should "moderate" their tone toward immigrants, and de-moderate their attitude to the Dems who suckered the GOP all too predictably. Decades of faintheartedness toward some of the most destabilizing features of any society, including bilingualism (take it from a semi-Belgian Canadian), have brought the party to its date with destiny. Or as Peggy Lee sang long ago in a lost land, "Manana is soon enough for me."
© Mark Steyn, 2012


Read More At IBD: http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/111612-633828-demographic-transformation-of-america-not-natural.htm#ixzz2DJ4govFP




The Dream Act is not going to fly right through the GOP and pass as easily as pundits claim.


The Civil War has begun. The Republican party is scared of the future. If you are an African American, Hispanic, Asian or any other ethnic or religious minority.... the base of the GOP does not like you.

If you are a Yankee, a woman, an environmentalist, a scientist, a poor person, or believe it shouldn't matter who you love, the GOP doesn't like you either.

etc. etc. etc.

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What the base of the GOP really thinks about hispanics, immigration, demographics, and destiny. (Original Post) aaaaaa5a Nov 2012 OP
Exactly right: The Republican party is scared of the future. They like the past. CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2012 #1
We all hope. cyclezealot Nov 2012 #5
Holy cow! I wasn't expecting what I read. Speck Tater Nov 2012 #2
Yes, it was disgusting. freshwest Nov 2012 #3
I went to the link due to the snips Promethean Nov 2012 #4
Sorry. I think for legal reasons a few "snips" are required. aaaaaa5a Nov 2012 #7
What's interesting is that this printed in the Business journal. And not some far out there aaaaaa5a Nov 2012 #8
"Manana is soon enough for me." Ash_F Nov 2012 #6

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,741 posts)
1. Exactly right: The Republican party is scared of the future. They like the past.
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 02:38 AM
Nov 2012

Unfortunately for them, we are headed into the future.

They are doomed.........

I hope.

cyclezealot

(4,802 posts)
5. We all hope.
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 05:31 AM
Nov 2012

Hopefully peace will come to America when our country is as was its destiny. From many one. White resistance is the essence of the Gobbers. Has been since the Civil Rights acts of the 60's.. When we are one , hopefully we will be a better country. With all members of society accepting the belief, we are all in this together.
. As to that multi cultural society.. Let is happen.. let's take Hawaii..
Hawaii is the core of that multi cultural promise. I'd vote Hawaii as one of America's more peaceful , socially adjusted places in which to live. Aloha. = love.

 

Speck Tater

(10,618 posts)
2. Holy cow! I wasn't expecting what I read.
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 03:05 AM
Nov 2012

I thought it was going to be an objective analysis, but by the time I read the author's own admission: "Don't take it from a right-wing bigot like me..." (and he is certainly right about THAT self-assessment!) I realized that I was wading hip deep in the slime!

Promethean

(468 posts)
4. I went to the link due to the snips
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 05:07 AM
Nov 2012

A few insightful moments mired in talking points garbage designed to attack Democrats.

aaaaaa5a

(4,667 posts)
7. Sorry. I think for legal reasons a few "snips" are required.
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 06:04 AM
Nov 2012

but I tried to post enough to that everyone could clearly see the writers thoughts.

aaaaaa5a

(4,667 posts)
8. What's interesting is that this printed in the Business journal. And not some far out there
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 06:06 AM
Nov 2012

right wing site. That's proof that in the GOP, this thought process is more mainstream than fringe.

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
6. "Manana is soon enough for me."
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 05:39 AM
Nov 2012

Could not have been a more fitting way to end his article and showcase his ignorance.

PS - "Manana is soon enough for me." For those who don't know, not only did he fail to spell mañana properly, but the song it itself is filled with racist stereotypes about lazy Mexicans and fake accents.

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