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highplainsdem

(49,015 posts)
Tue Apr 9, 2024, 11:23 AM Apr 9

'Social Order Could Collapse' in AI Era, Two Top Japan Companies Say

https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/social-order-could-collapse-in-ai-era-two-top-japan-companies-say-1a71cc1d

TOKYO—Japan’s largest telecommunications company and the country’s biggest newspaper called for speedy legislation to restrain generative artificial intelligence, saying democracy and social order could collapse if AI is left unchecked.

Nippon Telegraph and Telephone, or NTT, and Yomiuri Shimbun Group Holdings made the proposal in an AI manifesto to be released Monday. Combined with a law passed in March by the European Parliament restricting some uses of AI, the manifesto points to rising concern among American allies about the AI programs U.S.-based companies have been at the forefront of developing.

The Japanese companies’ manifesto, while pointing to the potential benefits of generative AI in improving productivity, took a generally skeptical view of the technology. Without giving specifics, it said AI tools have already begun to damage human dignity because the tools are sometimes designed to seize users’ attention without regard to morals or accuracy.

Unless AI is restrained, “in the worst-case scenario, democracy and social order could collapse, resulting in wars,” the manifesto said.

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More, from Fortune;

https://fortune.com/2024/04/08/japanese-companies-warning-ai-social-order-collapse-trust-lies/

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Nippon Telegraph and Telephone (NTT) and Yomiuri Shimbun Group Holdings on Monday released a joint proposal on shaping generative AI, urging officials to revise laws surrounding the technology and saying AI is already having negative impacts on users.

“If generative AI is allowed to go unchecked, trust in society as a whole may be damaged as people grow distrustful of one another and incentives are lost for guaranteeing authenticity and trustworthiness,” the paper read. “There is a concern that, in the worst-case scenario, democracy and social order could collapse, resulting in wars.”

Humans, the two companies said, are incapable of fully controlling this technology, noting that AI “lies with confidence” and humans “are easily fooled.” The design of AI systems to grab users’ attention has also been detrimental, the paper argues, damaging “autonomy and dignity, which are essential values that allow individuals in our society to be free.”

The proposal is further critical of AI being used in schools, especially for younger students whose “ability to make appropriate decisions has not fully matured.”

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The companies want Japan's government to act immediately to strengthen copyright laws and pass new laws to protect elections and national security from harm done by AI.
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'Social Order Could Collapse' in AI Era, Two Top Japan Companies Say (Original Post) highplainsdem Apr 9 OP
kick highplainsdem Apr 9 #1
Trying to restrain something with such potential for further downside? Prairie_Seagull Apr 9 #2
You're not being a smartass - you're being smart. Those companies weren't mincing words. highplainsdem Apr 9 #3
Kick nt XanaDUer2 Apr 9 #4
Thanks! highplainsdem Apr 9 #5
A1 really worries me XanaDUer2 Apr 9 #6
Same here. Especially since we're already seeing bad things. And the Big Tech companies highplainsdem Apr 9 #7
Neither is Congress XanaDUer2 Apr 9 #8
Unfortunately, current democracies are simply unable to regulate AI effectively 0rganism Apr 9 #9

Prairie_Seagull

(3,332 posts)
2. Trying to restrain something with such potential for further downside?
Tue Apr 9, 2024, 05:21 PM
Apr 9

Last edited Tue Apr 9, 2024, 06:02 PM - Edit history (1)

Do we even have the choice now? Restrain or risk social collapse. I don't know, seems kind of significant, (he says being a smartass.)

highplainsdem

(49,015 posts)
3. You're not being a smartass - you're being smart. Those companies weren't mincing words.
Tue Apr 9, 2024, 05:33 PM
Apr 9

I wish the same was true of major US companies.

highplainsdem

(49,015 posts)
7. Same here. Especially since we're already seeing bad things. And the Big Tech companies
Tue Apr 9, 2024, 06:24 PM
Apr 9

were well aware of the problems and risks, and they're doing little or nothing about them.

0rganism

(23,960 posts)
9. Unfortunately, current democracies are simply unable to regulate AI effectively
Tue Apr 9, 2024, 06:47 PM
Apr 9

That's not a slight to the systems themselves, it's just how things are. One could complain that triangles don't have 4 sides, but it's not really a defect. Intentionally, many of the democratic principles like free speech, free press, and free association are inherently exploitable, especially by another nation bent on systemic disruption. Humans as we are now just don't have access to methods of countering such attacks without sacrificing the very democratic principles we'd like to protect. Social fragmentation is the likeliest outcome, as the companies have indicated in the OP article.

Like it or not, our technological advancements have led us to the point where entities built from digital logic rather than flesh and bone exist and increasingly exert influence in our lives. Our notions of authenticity and verifiability will be challenged, inevitably. So far, there is no legislative or political solution.

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