You must be joking.

Of the cataclysmic effects of the number of reservations, accommodations, rentals, transportation, and ten thousand other issues that involve the convention? Impossible

Who's letting the SC decide? Most likely case: they get granted an exception, as was the case four years ago. Worst case: they formally proclaim Biden the nominee via vote a month before the convention and then proceed with the festivities as scheduled lol

...if the primaries are done, the nominee can be called and announced before the formal convention.

Per Colorado state Consitution, the issue was to remove tRump from ballot for Presidential Election 2024...

They said, essentially said that states can not keep federal candidates off a national election ballot.

corrupt court does is subject to change. They may feel different on a Wednesday.

and that is past the deadline for names to go on the ballot in some states. Very different than the Colorado case.

Do the formal nomination early enough to ensure ballot accessand then hold the pomp and ceremony at the "convention." The convention is trictly a formality and a party. No reason to jeopardize ballot access over something this meaningless.

Frank LaRose, Secretary of State of Ohio has wanted to get himself some media attention claiming the Democratic Convention is too late to declare our Candidate, Joe Biden for the Ohio Ballot...this wants him off the ballot for 2024....

but, I site the recent tRump/ Colorado ruling by the US Supreme Court...essentially saying a state can not keep a Federal candidate off a National Election....

but this asshole is making MAGA waves and inflammatory claims as they all do 24/7...

Moving a small convention is bad enough. Texas Democratic Women has an annual convention in February; we have used the same venue for 15 years - until 2023. We had everything in place for our normal hotel and about 6 months from the convention the hotel was closed. We had to scramble for a new location, then we had to work out the details with them. Our committee was going nuts and this is a small convention with everything happening in one place.

Can you imagine what it would be like to find an available city at the last minute, much less all the details.

So, El Paso was decided, but it's so far.

I am going out to Phoenix to see her in September - I just got tickets to the Sexy Liberal Save The World show on the 28th. We area going to have so much fun!!!

To top things off, she is planning a destination 40th birthday party ... in Hawaii on The Big Island. A bunch of friends & her inlaws are going. My daughter & son in law can only go for a long weekend but we are going to go early so we can have more time. Besides I have to be back for the Election, with some recovery time.

I have never been to Hawaii so it is pretty exciting. -

About how much planning a convention of any kind takes.

They have zero clue about how a convention of this kind requires advance planning for sufficient hotel facilities nearby, security, sound systems, lighting, decorations, food services--for the conventioneers and those backstage, makeup and wardrobe personnel, liability insurance, and so on.

They are completely oblivious to how potential speakers don't have 100% flexible schedules.

And they seem to have this completely clueless notion that every convention-worthy venue is just sitting there, open and ready to be used on any given day, rather than booked months or even years in advance. And never mind the stiff penalties the organizers can incur for cancellation.

It's shocking how little some people know about the simplest things.

which was going through my mind.

I happened to have had a patient of blessed memory who was in charge of the Philadelphia Convention Center for the Republican convention in 2000. She was remarkable but the best story about her was when she met the Republican national committee. She was African-American, female, of course, long dreadlocks and a terrific human being. The planning and logistics were mind-bending. She and were BFF’s since I had rescued her from dental disaster in the 80’s. Miss her.

A lot of time and $$$ have gone into planning the convention. This is not the time to fiddle with the dates four months before the event.

If the date was known in advance and it looks like it was then someone screwed the pooch. Anyone who thinks republicans won't fuck the Dems anyway they can is an idiot.

the one who swept his primaries everywhere but American Samoa.

This is about state deadlines to put the candidate on the ballot. The convention, which establishes the candidate, is after the deadline of the state. Not like Colorado.

In general, you want to keep the gap between convention and election as short as practical, and then you have a real world calander to deal with; holidays, other convention, sports events, etc.

Gets tight for a multi day event.

There are pro's running these things. I ain't one though.

I'm so GD pissed off about this.

Colorado challenged Trump's eligibility to be on the ballot but we can't do the basics to make sure our candidate is on the ballot? How do we convince people Biden is more competent when the campaign didn't even get him on the ballot? Why would people in OH & AL contribute money to the campaign? Someone will say these states aren't important but that's not true. Every state is important. This will affect the popularity count & the down ballot races.

It's embarrassing. We look incompetent. I expected a lot more from the Democratic Party than to fuck up something so simple as to miss the deadline to get your damned candidate on the ballot. WTF?

This would not be an issue if the Rs were not trying to do everything possible to supress the vote (among other things) If it were not for the insanity of the past 10 years no state would even care, especially when the incumbent is obviously the nominee very early on.

The convention of the incumbent party is always later in the summer. I have been paying attention to this for a very long time and it just never came up.

Nothing states a nominee has to be declared the winner at the convention. They can renominate Biden a month early and then do the conversation as planned.

People are making this out to be a way bigger deal than it really is.

I'd like to hear it because I'm willing to bet it's a lot more incompetent than what we're seeing now.

Why?

Because the Democrats were given three options due to the timing of the Republican Convention and the 2024 Summer Olympics (the GOP selected their dates before the Democrats):

1. Hold their convention the week after the GOP Convention ends but also have the Olympics start literally the day after, therefore negating any potential buzz the party could have received from the convention as every news source and most the population automatically turns to the Opening Ceremonies the next day after Biden's speech, which would completely drown out any news about it.

2. Break with tradition and hold the convention before the GOP Convention, which the incumbent party doesn't do, and therefore give the Republicans the advantage of going last.

3. What they're doing.

The first two are infinitely more dumb than the third and certainly politically unnecessary.

They're the ones who have to come up with a solution & get Biden on the ballot.

This is a discussion board. I'm expressing frustration that this is the most critical election in our country's history & we dropped the ball.

They probably have a solution. The party doesn't seem concerned. You do, though, so I think it's perfectly appropriate to ask what you'd have done since you're so certain they don't have a solution and were incompetent.

Again: you claimed they were incompetent. How do you know that? How do you know they didn't look at every option and decided this was the best, even knowing about deadlines - and because of that have an action plan?

Instead of maybe giving them the benefit of the doubt, you quickly capitulated to a silly narrative.

And we wonder why right-wing disinformation is so effective lmao

And it's not a silly narrative. If you want to be the competent party then be competent. How hard to have someone go through every states requirements & make sure you meet them? Why depend on states' past exemptions to policy in this day & age of repub extremism? Cover your ass is the smart thing especially if you're out there telling people this is a critical election.

Just because my opinion differs from yours doesn't mean I've fallen for right wing misinformation. I'm done justifying my opinion to you.

You can't even articulate a reasonable answer as to why you claim they're incompetent.

I outlined multiple reasons why the party likely chose a later date and you're still harping on a ridiculous claim that they didn't properly plan accordingly?

Just because you're an easy victim to disinformation doesn't automatically make the party incompetent.

But then maybe they should have held their convention the week the Olympics began and gave up all the publicity of the convention, especially its final night, to the opening ceremonies. Yeah, that wouldn't be incompetent at all lmao

Republican states deliberately changed their laws AFTER the DNC was scheduled. We are not at fault. They are.

This is not embarrassing for Democrats. This is a typical Republican dirty trick. Don't fall for it.

They have allowed changes to deadlines in the past pending on their legislatures. Now that they're saying their legislatures won't allow the changes.

Joe Biden’s potential exclusion from Ohio’s ballot would be first in modern presidential history
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Ohio’s law, which requires presidential candidates to be certified by their party’s national convention at least 90 days before a general election, dates back to 2009, according to LaRose spokesman Ben Kindel.

In 2012 and 2020, both the Republican and Democratic national conventions were held after that deadline. However, in each of those years, state lawmakers passed laws temporarily moving the deadline until after the party conventions.

https://archive.ph/TOlde#selection-2199.0-2211.232

Here is an Ohio SOS document from 2019:

As explained elsewhere in this thread, the DNC chose a reasonable time for our party's convention, maximizing our advantage. That's was the right thing to do.

The Republicans are stopping at nothing to create chaos, suppress the vote, and basically cheat.

Some Maga state legislatures moved the filing date up after the convention date was set. Check and see if that is the problem. It is not the fault of the candidates. If this is true for you you might want to delete this post. No Dem bashing here……..

How was the Convention Committee supposed to know that two states would try such a stunt? It was not a "stupid error" on the part of the committee, it was the other side jumping on a fine detail and making a deal out of it just to stir up trouble and cause folks to go off the deep end. Making us look bad is #1 in their toolbox anyway: see Hunter Biden.

Consider this: these are red states. Would President Biden win those electoral votes without this stunt? If we elected our president by national vote total, it would not matter.

Nothing irritates me more than Democrats going along with stupid Republican tricks. We turn on our own much too readily.

The legislature has granted exceptions, but this time they don't want to play

https://archive.ph/TOlde

From 2019: https://www.ohiosos.gov/globalassets/elections/advisories/2019/adv2019-06.pdf

trouble and keep Biden off the ballot in two states is what happened what do the Dems do about it?

They are typically later (in the modern age) when a Dem is running as an incumbent.

I say the RETHUGLICONS have decided they cannot win without CHEATING. So they decided to attack us through convention dates. Fuck them all, WE GOT THIS!!! Come on BLUE NOVEMBER WAVE!!

Gotta read all the fine print in each state.

Did the management team not get the memo?

Date of the GOP convention (Mon, Jul 15, 2024 – Thu, Jul 18, 2024)
The Olympics (Fri, Jul 26, 2024 – Sun, Aug 11, 2024)
Availability of United Center in Chicago

I think this is pure partisan payback for attempting to kick Trump off the ballot in some states. More performative politics because they don’t have anything better to do.🙄

Pfft pfft pfft

...as soon as the primaries are finished.

Nothing says we have to wait for the convention date to name and announce the nominee and get that name on the ballots in plenty of time.

by someone in a strawhat, waving flags, and acting goofy.

Republicans back in 2022 selected July 15-18. At this point, the Democrats had yet to finalize their dates.

It's tradition, though not law, that the incumbent party holds their convention last.

But this year we have an Olympics to contend with between July 26 and August 11.

The Democrats likely didn't want the Olympics to overshadow their convention, as the opening would literally start potentially the day after the final night (assuming it's a Monday-Thursday affair as it typically is).

So that gives them two options:

Hold the convention after the Olympics or break tradition and go before the Republicans, which would negate the advantage of going last.

...simply and quietly declare and announce what everyone already knows, and then use the scheduled convention date to celebrate and energize for the excitement of campaigning for the best ticket ever.

Look they are always going to jump on any opportunity to make any of our candidates or plans look suspicious.

They can declare President Biden the parties candidate and send the proper paperwork to all the states.
The regular convention could still be held in August to take care of all the other stuff and officially launch the campaign.

This is DU, we HAVE to blame Democrats first. All those Constitutional law experts, and armchair economists are now election law experts and absolutely know better than the campaign what needs done.

The Republicans had the same problems with a convention in late August. Quickly resolved by an act of the Alabama legislature who passed a bill saying it was ok. Of course, it was for Geo W. Bush. In this case they're just being the shits they are.

The off party gets the early start and the incumbent gets the final push advantage.

Been that way for decades

Olympics start this summer? Could that be a reason?

State laws have changed to make the certification deadline earlier.

This was prompted from National Association of Secretary of States. However, the National Association of Secretary of States probably failed to realize that the Olympics are always held during presidential convention times.

mid-to-late August or September.

[link:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Democratic_National_Conventions|

In the area.
When it was scheduled in Milwaukee for 2020 there where hotels up and down the shoreline coordinating together all the way to Chicago.
We now have a convention in Chicago and the GOP convention in Milwaukee. They use many of the same resources and need time between to make both run successfully.