Just to ensure a conviction in this case? Why don’t we just skip the trial and declare Trump guilty in that case. No need for the niceties of the Constitution.

that had not been held up on DU as in need of abolishment since, due to the ignorance of our forebears, it might work to assure fairness or protection even to tRump. Surely that could not be what they intended.

I'm encouraged by the fact, though, that MAGAts are very poor at concealing their feelings and their sense of perpetual grievance. I'm sure if any of them tried to slip past the control safeguards and try on a mask of 'I can be completely objective', voir dir will take care of most of them, and for the rest, there are peremptory challenges.

Real people are rarely the caricatures we think they are.

They are in charge and see the evidence which we won’t see. Only snippets from media.

If Trump is acquitted 11-1, it won't look too good for him.

Of all those of voting age in 2020 Trump received less than 29% of that group.

There will be voters that will be dead before the election.

There will be new voters. Will they more likely for Trump or Biden? I think more will for Biden than the one on trial.

Then there those voting for him in 2020. But will there be drop offs because of various issues? I think so.

With nearly 85% voting for Biden in 2020 should be a good start.

In Manhattan what type of people live there? What type of occupations? Age brackets? Income level? Education?

It was suggested those in the upper age even if they voted Republican in the past it was Reagan Republican and less likely to support Trump.

"What pronouns do you use?"

The mere mention of pronouns seems to trigger Trumpsters.

most people would have no idea what that question was about. And whoever asked it would have one notch against them.

What would that tell you about me and my ability to serve on a jury?

cheered past jury nullification in the past are probably pretty tightly-puckered right about now...

It may take awhile but they will eventually seat 12 reasonable individuals.

They're going through over a thousand potential jurors. They new to draw a big summons pool. The judge allowed two weeks for the process, and I'm imagining he knows what he's doing

Trust the prosecutors to know how to do their jobs.

It would allow for a little bit of monkey business in a deeply polarized tribal society.

I just don't know whether to blame Hunter Biden's laptop or DEI.

Other countries have different systems, the UK only requires 9 out of 12 jurors to convict.

But the wider issue is: why do so many seemingly broken legal constructs remain broken for so long?

Even when majorities make wholesale changes possible, they do not occur.

Three examples:
The ability of people with nefarious intent to sue over the injuries they caused themselves that prevented them from completing the crime,
The travesty of ADA suits against any business regardless of whether it is possible to modify the structure to accommodate a disabled person, or whether a disabled person was actually unable to be accommodated,
The use of public money to right wrongs perpetrated by individuals outside of department policy.

All those things could (have) been fixed decades ago if the lawmakers had any will to do so.


(Full disclosure: not one but two of my favorite restaurants were bankrupted by corrupt ADA litigators, who caused them to spend far in excess of any actual damages, trying to remedy the problems of accessibility in very old buildings, multiple times. In each case the City inspector approved the modifications but the ADA litigator managed to hold the business owner to a different standard.
For the record: I don't disagree with the principle of enabling disabled access, I disagree vehemently with it being required regardless of the remediation cost being physically feasible or a substantial proportion of revenue.)

and i doubt he would be given any prison time on this

That's how it works within the rule of law. We're lucky to have it.

If the jury is hung, they can just hold another trial. An 11 to 1 vote is NOT an acquittal.

It should peel more voters away from Trump.

If these are Manhattan residents. About 85% of the residents voted for Biden.

The job rests with the prosecution to do their job too.
Considering who they have as witnesses and the evidence it should be clear.

But of course, the defense will do everything they can to muck it up.

Well... not fully satisfying but satisfying enough in light of the circumstances: I checked to see how trumpers were handling the trial, and they were complaining about how tRump might be held from his son's graduation and one of them mentioned that the process is the punishment. 🤔

If nothing else, traitor will be trapped in a court for the next 6 to 8 weeks or so. Hell, I'll take it. I'll take any form of accountability at this point. I'm going to go ahead and set my expectations pretty low so that anything more will be a pleasant surprise. You never know, he might get himself locked up. Or he might... check out... from the stress.