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Renew Deal

(81,866 posts)
Mon Apr 15, 2024, 11:41 PM Apr 15

How is a war between Israel and Iran supposed to work?

There are 2-3 countries in between them. Are they just going to lob missiles back and forth over them? Sooner or later a weapon will crash in Jordan, Syria, Iraq, or Saudi Arabia, causing damage. That doesn't seem like an acceptable situation.

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moniss

(4,265 posts)
11. Try this Kurdish
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 12:22 AM
Apr 16

shakshuka for breakfast. Eggs cooked in a frying pan with tomatoes/paste, onion, olive oil, parsley, salt and pepper and a chili pepper. People make it many different ways but at the heart is always the eggs cooking in the tomatoes so you get a poached sort of egg. I've seen people call for garlic and Feta. I guess you could get adventurous and add beans. I could really dig this in the morning with a big loaf of warm, freshly baked whole grain bread with butter.

LeftInTX

(25,398 posts)
4. And look at Iran's closest ally (Russia) is only separated by their mutual ally: Azerbaijan
Mon Apr 15, 2024, 11:56 PM
Apr 15

Azerbaijan would gladly open up their roads, airspace, Caspian Sea and everything for Russia and Iran.

Whereas Israel would somehow need to figure out how to get everyone to Iran.
I just checked and Israel does not have aircraft carriers.
Plus, Israel can't seem to even get into the Red Sea these days.

I highly doubt Kuwait, SA, Jordan, Syria and Iraq will open their air space for a war between Israel and Iran!

Iran would have the advantage of the full force of Russia behind them.

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I had thought of this earlier too!!!!

 

Mountainguy

(537 posts)
8. The full force of Russia.
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 12:08 AM
Apr 16

Which is what? They can barely keep up a fight 300 miles from their own capital.

Besides that, the US wouldn't sit out a war between Iran and Israel. Neither would the UK. Furthermore, don't don't discount the likelihood that Saudi Arabia would take the opportunity to deal some blows to Iran, who they have been wrestling for regional dominance for a while. Saudi Arabia has far better relations with Israel than they do Iran.

LeftInTX

(25,398 posts)
9. Russian weapons help Iran harden defenses against Israeli airstrike
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 12:14 AM
Apr 16

Last March, a Russian arms maker invited a delegation of Iranians to a VIP shopping tour of its weapons factories. The 17 visitors were treated to lunches and cultural shows and, on the final day, toured a plant that makes products long coveted by Tehran: advanced Russian air defense systems for shooting down enemy planes.


The factory, NPP Start, in the city of Yekaterinburg, is under U.S. sanctions for supporting Russia’s war against Ukraine. Among its wares are mobile launchers and other components for antiaircraft batteries — including Russia’s S-400, which military analysts assess to be capable of detecting and destroying stealth fighter jets flown by Israel and the United States.

A leaked Russian document, part of stolen Iranian emails posted online in February by a hacker group, described the tour as a showcase for “scientific and technical potential and production capabilities” that Russia could offer Iran.

Whether the visit led directly to a purchase is unknown. But the trip is emblematic of what intelligence officials describe as a deepening strategic partnership between Moscow and Tehran in the two years since Russia’s full invasion of Ukraine — an alliance that could emerge as a significant factor as Israeli leaders weigh possible military strikes in retaliation for the hundreds of drones and missiles launched against Israel over the weekend.

https://wapo.st/3xui2Ur

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I could imagine this becoming a "regime change" like the Iraq War, because no one can just stop at a skirmish. Right now Iran is a proxy threat to Israel, but about the only way to stop that would be a big war with a regime change.

thomski64

(454 posts)
10. ..so would the calculation that..
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 12:17 AM
Apr 16

...UK & US would join in be the
reason that Bibi deliberately
attacked the Iranian Consulate
and provoked this retaliation??

 

Mountainguy

(537 posts)
14. Or you could say that Iran provoked the attack
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 12:31 AM
Apr 16

by using the IRGC in Syria to attack Israel through Hezbollah and Hamas.

Frasier Balzov

(2,655 posts)
5. You're right. Airspace is supposed to be sovereign.
Mon Apr 15, 2024, 11:58 PM
Apr 15

And a situation where an overflown country gives its permission to one combatant country and not the other signals the fall of yet another international norm by forcing its disregard.

moniss

(4,265 posts)
6. It's one of those things I pointed out the other day
Mon Apr 15, 2024, 11:59 PM
Apr 15

about the media and countries around the world, particularly here in the US, not being asked the question about all of these obvious, at least to you and I, aspects about the sovereign airspace of all these different countries. Is everybody just fair game now to be used whenever?

LeftInTX

(25,398 posts)
7. The US has military bases in Syria and Iraq.
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 12:02 AM
Apr 16

But they would probably only tolerate combat for a very short time.

moniss

(4,265 posts)
12. Syria is a horrible mess
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 12:28 AM
Apr 16

right now and even if they objected I don't think anybody would comply. Seems like whoever wants to fly raids into Syria can pretty much do so. Iraq is a different matter since they don't have fond memories of the US in general and so I don't know how willing they would be to open their airspace for a back and forth.

Eko

(7,318 posts)
16. Lebanon and Sryia have large amounts of Iranian proxies.
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 12:36 AM
Apr 16

With a lot of ordinance. As far as Jordan, Iraq and Saudi Arabia I don't know if they would let Israel fire missiles over them at Iran. They might but I would have to conclude in the end they wouldn't. Israel will probably attack Iran's proxies instead.

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
17. I think this is really Putin trying to open a second front in the Ukraine war
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 07:10 AM
Apr 16

It gets the US involved in a second mess. I also can't believe SA would be ok with this. But maybe they are.

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