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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAnyone know what a "shitgibbon" is and why Trump was compared to one?
pfitz59
(10,389 posts)and apes are famous for flinging shit. Just a guess.
unblock
(52,313 posts)brewens
(13,618 posts)Jerry2144
(2,110 posts)That's what you get for walking through a dog kennel in hiking boots.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,360 posts)and it sounds believable. Used in a UK music paper in 1988 or possibly not until 1990 (by David Quantick, comedy writer and critic, who has used it since, eg in Veep in 2012). After Trump ran for president, it started to be applied to him.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/shitgibbon
https://web.archive.org/web/20170801205257/http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2017/02/13/the_origin_of_the_trump_insult_shitgibbon_revealed.html
It's an obvious insult, and the stress, syllables and vowels fit a common pattern:
bahboo
(16,353 posts)Marthe48
(17,015 posts)Hudson and Landry The Obscene Phone Bust:
BlueKota
(1,779 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(101,360 posts)Compounding represents a novel source of tabooness in English. A recent example of this phenomenon occurred in February 2017 during heated political discourse where Pennsylvania State Senator, Daylin Leach, challenged US President Donald Trump by tweeting, Why don't you try to destroy my career you fascist, loofa-faced, shit-gibbon! This distinctive insult garnered the interest of both the popular press and language researchers (Tessier & Becker, 2018). In a follow-up article in Slate, Zimmer (2017) subsequently traced the etymology of shitgibbon to writer David Quantics critiques of British pop music in the 1980s. Zimmers article specifically highlighted the unanswered question of why certain compounds such as shitgibbon are so effective. We hypothesize that word form and meaning interact in taboo words. In two experiments to follow, we examined factors that predict tabooness for single words and the quality of novel taboo compounds.
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English is rife with taboo terms formed through combinatorial processes with religious terms (e.g., goddamn) and other extant taboo words ( Hughes, 1998; Mohr, 2013). In this experiment, we investigated this idiosyncratic propensity for common noun compounding. There are many such examples in common usage today (e.g., shithead, asshat, clusterfuck), and compounding appears to be a legitimate source of new words. We explored why some common nouns form effective new curse words (e.g., shithead), whereas others (e.g., shitarm) do not. It has been suggested that taboo words tend to denote negative concepts while simultaneously having phonological structures that mark sound-symbolic patterns of aggressive and/or unpleasant sounds (Bergen, 2016). We hypothesized that both of these factors (form and meaning) interact to predict the quality of emergent taboo speech, and this was indeed the case.
The data suggest that taboo compounding is a non-random process and that the quality of novel taboo compounding is to an extent predictable by a simple linear model. This compounding process did, however, differ in several important respects relative to the single-word regression data in Experiment 1. First, participants endorsed shorter words, words with many similar sounding neighbors, and words with higher levels of obstruance (e.g., abrupt stoppage of air during articulation) as superior candidates for taboo compounding. Second, prediction was optimized by a linear combination of these formal factors with semantic variables such as whether a word denoted a profession, dwelling, or receptacle.
https://link.springer.com/article/10.3758/s13423-019-01685-8
Emrys
(7,255 posts)In an article last Thursday, I looked at the rise of the colorful Trumpian epithet shitgibbon. The word first hit it big last June when Donald Trump was called a tiny fingered, Cheeto-faced, ferret wearing shitgibbon on Twitter and then made an even bigger splash last week when Pennsylvania state Sen. Daylin Leach called the president a fascist, loofa-faced, shit-gibbon. But where did this exquisite creation come from, originally?
Some have assumed it must be Scottish, since the June insult came at the height of backlash against Trumps visit to Scotland, where he was lambasted for his tonedeaf comments about the Brexit vote. But that tweet actually came from an Englishman, one who goes by MetalOllie on Twitter (and will only reveal that his first name is Darren due to online death threats).
My fellow word sleuth Hugo van Kemenade found examples as early as 2000 in Usenet forum posts about bootlegging in the British music scene, where shitgibbon was deployed against ungrateful traders of copied music. More than a decade later, it got a boost from an early episode of HBOs Veep in 2012, wherein the character Sen. Andrew Doyle calls a rival a gold-plated fucking shitgibbon.
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https://slate.com/culture/2017/02/the-origin-of-the-trump-insult-shitgibbon-revealed.html
No spoiler, you'll have to click through to find out the identity of the person who coined the term, but I will say it dates from 1990.
Maeve
(42,288 posts)And thanks to those who researched the origins of the term. Oh, to have seen his face...
marble falls
(57,173 posts)Midnight Writer
(21,792 posts)My spellcheck apparently doesn't know what a shitgibbon is, either.
Dem2theMax
(9,653 posts)But I use orange shitgibbon.
ancianita
(36,132 posts)captain queeg
(10,240 posts)I dont remember if it specifically named trump but it sure fit him. I did some research back then but dont remember its origins.
Bucky
(54,053 posts)I don't think it's a good descriptor
mgardener
(1,817 posts)surfered
(518 posts)malaise
(269,157 posts)😂😂😂
MLAA
(17,318 posts)I got close enough to read two of them: Lock him up and Trump is a shit gibbon and a traitor or something like that. Once I saw Trump and shitgibbon I laughed I kinda lost focus on the rest of the sign. I was trying to get my phone out when an old dude got in the truck to go and all I could manage was to yell love your signs, he nodded and rolled away. Made my day.
TrogL
(32,822 posts)The gibbons would caper and encourage people to come up close. Then theyd throw shit at them.
Sounds like an apt description. Exactly how authoritarian followers are treated by their leaders.
GB_RN
(2,373 posts)When Cantaloupe Caligula went to Scotland, not long after he was selected into office. Hed gone to his hideous golf course, and naturally, the locals werent having any of it (theyve been pissed at him for ages). Protest signs were abundant and colorful.😂
madeup64
(257 posts)"Cheeto encrusted shit Gibbon"