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Anyone know what a "shitgibbon" is and why Trump was compared to one? (Original Post) RAB910 Apr 20 OP
A gibbon is a spindly ape pfitz59 Apr 20 #1
"Is that accurate?" "On further inspection your honor, I'm now leaning more toward skunk" unblock Apr 20 #2
Similar to a shitweasle but it's an ape. :) n/t brewens Apr 20 #3
Perhaps a shitwaffle? Jerry2144 Apr 20 #11
Wiktionary has a fairly detailed history muriel_volestrangler Apr 20 #4
omg...I LOVE this..... bahboo Apr 20 #17
For some reason I thought of this Marthe48 Apr 20 #20
I think turdweasel would also be fitting for Donny. BlueKota Apr 20 #23
And here is the insult of Trump, preserved forever in an academic paper: muriel_volestrangler Apr 21 #25
Here: a detailed article from 2017 on the origins of the phrase "ferret-wearing shitgibbon" as applied to Trump Emrys Apr 20 #5
K N R Faux pas Apr 20 #6
Thank you for the best laugh I've had in a while! Maeve Apr 20 #7
I read it first from an English fellow on another site as "Orange Shitgibbon" Having to do with his shit flinging ways. marble falls Apr 20 #8
I don't know what a shitgibbon is but I know one when I see one. Midnight Writer Apr 20 #9
It's my favorite descriptive term for Trump. Dem2theMax Apr 20 #10
After the the stories, it got traction everywhere, and the merch rolled out...photos are too big to post here. ancianita Apr 20 #12
I remember a year or two ago I ran across the term captain queeg Apr 20 #13
A gibbon is a thin, agile, vegetarian ape know for its friendly disposition Bucky Apr 20 #14
This has been my reference mgardener Apr 20 #15
This the third time this week I've spit wine on myself! surfered Apr 20 #16
Fabulous OP malaise Apr 20 #18
I saw a classic old truck in a large grocery store parking lot with several cardboard signs taped on with duct tape. MLAA Apr 20 #19
I've been to several zoos with monkey cages TrogL Apr 20 #21
I Remember It Gaining Traction Way Back... GB_RN Apr 20 #22
I always was partial to madeup64 Apr 20 #24
I'd guess that the reason has to do with his level of intelligence and also the smell of diapers. D23MIURG23 Apr 21 #26

muriel_volestrangler

(101,360 posts)
4. Wiktionary has a fairly detailed history
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 08:00 PM
Apr 20

and it sounds believable. Used in a UK music paper in 1988 or possibly not until 1990 (by David Quantick, comedy writer and critic, who has used it since, eg in Veep in 2012). After Trump ran for president, it started to be applied to him.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/shitgibbon
https://web.archive.org/web/20170801205257/http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2017/02/13/the_origin_of_the_trump_insult_shitgibbon_revealed.html

It's an obvious insult, and the stress, syllables and vowels fit a common pattern:

Taylor Jones, a graduate student in linguistics from the University of Pennsylvania, wrote a post on his Language Jones blog that considers how shitgibbon fits an emerging pattern for obscene insults like douchewaffle, turdweasel, and jizztrumpet, all of which consist of a monosyllablic expletive plus a trochee (a stressed syllable followed by an unstressed syllable). Along with metrical concerns, Jones notes how vowels often repeat in such words, as in dickbiscuit, craprabbit, and spunkpuffin. Meanwhile, Jamie Reilly, director of the Memory, Concepts, Cognition Laboratory at Temple University, has been working with colleagues on a research project analyzing people’s judgments of such novel profanities. Clearly, shitgibbon and its kin will provide scholarly fodder for years to come.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,360 posts)
25. And here is the insult of Trump, preserved forever in an academic paper:
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 05:40 AM
Apr 21
Building the perfect curse word: A psycholinguistic investigation of the form and meaning of taboo words

Compounding represents a novel source of tabooness in English. A recent example of this phenomenon occurred in February 2017 during heated political discourse where Pennsylvania State Senator, Daylin Leach, challenged US President Donald Trump by tweeting, “Why don't you try to destroy my career you fascist, loofa-faced, shit-gibbon!” This distinctive insult garnered the interest of both the popular press and language researchers (Tessier & Becker, 2018). In a follow-up article in Slate, Zimmer (2017) subsequently traced the etymology of shitgibbon to writer David Quantic’s critiques of British pop music in the 1980s. Zimmer’s article specifically highlighted the unanswered question of why certain compounds such as shitgibbon are so effective. We hypothesize that word form and meaning interact in taboo words. In two experiments to follow, we examined factors that predict tabooness for single words and the quality of novel taboo compounds.
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English is rife with taboo terms formed through combinatorial processes with religious terms (e.g., goddamn) and other extant taboo words ( Hughes, 1998; Mohr, 2013). In this experiment, we investigated this idiosyncratic propensity for common noun compounding. There are many such examples in common usage today (e.g., shithead, asshat, clusterfuck), and compounding appears to be a legitimate source of new words. We explored why some common nouns form effective new curse words (e.g., shithead), whereas others (e.g., shitarm) do not. It has been suggested that taboo words tend to denote negative concepts while simultaneously having phonological structures that mark sound-symbolic patterns of aggressive and/or unpleasant sounds (Bergen, 2016). We hypothesized that both of these factors (form and meaning) interact to predict the quality of emergent taboo speech, and this was indeed the case.

The data suggest that taboo compounding is a non-random process and that the quality of novel taboo compounding is to an extent predictable by a simple linear model. This compounding process did, however, differ in several important respects relative to the single-word regression data in Experiment 1. First, participants endorsed shorter words, words with many similar sounding neighbors, and words with higher levels of obstruance (e.g., abrupt stoppage of air during articulation) as superior candidates for taboo compounding. Second, prediction was optimized by a linear combination of these formal factors with semantic variables such as whether a word denoted a profession, dwelling, or receptacle.

https://link.springer.com/article/10.3758/s13423-019-01685-8

Emrys

(7,255 posts)
5. Here: a detailed article from 2017 on the origins of the phrase "ferret-wearing shitgibbon" as applied to Trump
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 08:03 PM
Apr 20
A New Breakthrough in the History of the “S—gibbon”: The Insult’s Originator Steps Forward

In an article last Thursday, I looked at the rise of the colorful Trumpian epithet shitgibbon. The word first hit it big last June when Donald Trump was called a “tiny fingered, Cheeto-faced, ferret wearing shitgibbon” on Twitter and then made an even bigger splash last week when Pennsylvania state Sen. Daylin Leach called the president a “fascist, loofa-faced, shit-gibbon.” But where did this exquisite creation come from, originally?

Some have assumed it must be Scottish, since the June insult came at the height of backlash against Trump’s visit to Scotland, where he was lambasted for his tonedeaf comments about the Brexit vote. But that tweet actually came from an Englishman, one who goes by MetalOllie on Twitter (and will only reveal that his first name is Darren due to online death threats).

My fellow word sleuth Hugo van Kemenade found examples as early as 2000 in Usenet forum posts about bootlegging in the British music scene, where shitgibbon was deployed against ungrateful traders of copied music. More than a decade later, it got a boost from an early episode of HBO’s Veep in 2012, wherein the character Sen. Andrew Doyle calls a rival a “gold-plated fucking shitgibbon.”
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https://slate.com/culture/2017/02/the-origin-of-the-trump-insult-shitgibbon-revealed.html


No spoiler, you'll have to click through to find out the identity of the person who coined the term, but I will say it dates from 1990.

Maeve

(42,288 posts)
7. Thank you for the best laugh I've had in a while!
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 08:12 PM
Apr 20

And thanks to those who researched the origins of the term. Oh, to have seen his face...

marble falls

(57,173 posts)
8. I read it first from an English fellow on another site as "Orange Shitgibbon" Having to do with his shit flinging ways.
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 08:39 PM
Apr 20

Midnight Writer

(21,792 posts)
9. I don't know what a shitgibbon is but I know one when I see one.
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 08:39 PM
Apr 20

My spellcheck apparently doesn't know what a shitgibbon is, either.

captain queeg

(10,240 posts)
13. I remember a year or two ago I ran across the term
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 08:46 PM
Apr 20

I don’t remember if it specifically named trump but it sure fit him. I did some research back then but don’t remember its origins.

Bucky

(54,053 posts)
14. A gibbon is a thin, agile, vegetarian ape know for its friendly disposition
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 08:47 PM
Apr 20

I don't think it's a good descriptor

MLAA

(17,318 posts)
19. I saw a classic old truck in a large grocery store parking lot with several cardboard signs taped on with duct tape.
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 09:57 PM
Apr 20

I got close enough to read two of them: ‘Lock him up’ and ‘Trump is a shit gibbon and a traitor’ or something like that. Once I saw Trump and shitgibbon I laughed I kinda lost focus on the rest of the sign. I was trying to get my phone out when an old dude got in the truck to go and all I could manage was to yell ‘love your signs’, he nodded and rolled away. Made my day.

TrogL

(32,822 posts)
21. I've been to several zoos with monkey cages
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 10:14 PM
Apr 20

The gibbons would caper and encourage people to come up close. Then they’d throw shit at them.

Sounds like an apt description. Exactly how authoritarian followers are treated by their leaders.

GB_RN

(2,373 posts)
22. I Remember It Gaining Traction Way Back...
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 10:25 PM
Apr 20

When Cantaloupe Caligula went to Scotland, not long after he was selected into office. He’d gone to his hideous golf course, and naturally, the locals weren’t having any of it (they’ve been pissed at him for ages). Protest signs were abundant and…colorful.😂

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