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edhopper

(33,662 posts)
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 09:47 PM Apr 20

I have grave concern about Juror #2

Last edited Sun Apr 21, 2024, 09:39 AM - Edit history (1)

This graphic is from another thread. Source: NY Times



I don't see how someone who gets all their News from Trump on Truth Social and Twitter is anything but a cultists who who will never vote to convict their dear leader.

I don't see why the prosecution would allow such a juror? The odds of them hanging the jury is very high. Too high.

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I have grave concern about Juror #2 (Original Post) edhopper Apr 20 OP
According to many here, NYT, WP, CNN, MSNBC, WSJ are right wing. So jury looks stacked. Silent Type Apr 20 #1
It is often said that the MSM has a liberal bias. PufPuf23 Apr 20 #10
I agree this is a nightmare. Eliot Rosewater Apr 20 #2
Maybe someone can tell the jurors whatever someone told johnson Marthe48 Apr 20 #3
Unfuckingbelievable gab13by13 Apr 20 #4
I trust the prosecutors to know what they're doing. nt MarineCombatEngineer Apr 20 #5
I am with you on this. nt sheshe2 Apr 20 #12
Im not as jury savvy as you all are, but this sort of jury speculation is not right. Srkdqltr Apr 20 #6
Number 5 looks just as bad FakeNoose Apr 20 #7
Google News is pretty placid really underpants Apr 21 #29
Narcissists are fragile and easily swayed bucolic_frolic Apr 20 #8
This can't be real. They released the questionnaire to the public a week ago, but not the completed ones. Westcoast4life Apr 20 #9
Trump will be convicted Mark.b2 Apr 20 #11
And juror #4? No news at all? Easterncedar Apr 20 #13
His profile on NBC says he's a security engineer.... Mark.b2 Apr 20 #14
so maybe he gets his news from Ars Technica? DBoon Apr 20 #15
If he reads Ars Technica, thats a very good thing.... Mark.b2 Apr 20 #16
He's not an engineer mahina Apr 21 #23
Reminds me: It is no longer the 'cleaning lady" but "Enviromental services" riversedge Apr 21 #32
I am surrounded by T supporters and this fellow could be one of my neighbors. Tumbulu Apr 21 #24
He may be someone who has their world as they want it. underpants Apr 21 #27
The prosecution doesn't have unlimited numbers of challenges TexasDem69 Apr 20 #17
My understanding is that juror 2 chowder66 Apr 20 #18
How many of you that are posting Tree Lady Apr 21 #19
Thanks for calming me down Tumbulu Apr 21 #25
I was called for jury duty twice in the city of Richmond underpants Apr 21 #26
What is the source of this chart? Ohio Joe Apr 21 #20
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/19/nyregion/trump-trial-jury-news.html John Farmer Apr 21 #21
Either post a proper response or a non paying site...this is not accesible without a subscription. Demsrule86 Apr 26 #41
NYT edhopper Apr 21 #22
Seriously, how was that juror allowed on the jury? Initech Apr 21 #28
This might help a little Bleacher Creature Apr 21 #30
Thank you for that edhopper Apr 21 #34
Talk radio is notably missing from options. Very influential. I listen to it. underpants Apr 21 #31
I think there is a very slim chance Trump is convicted. nt doc03 Apr 21 #33
#1 is a far greater concern NanaCat Apr 21 #35
And MSNBC edhopper Apr 21 #36
I understand and tend to agree but PCIntern Apr 21 #37
Sure edhopper Apr 21 #38
40% of American voters are Trump supporters, what is the odds of not getting one on the jury? Chainfire Apr 21 #39
In Manhattan edhopper Apr 21 #40

Silent Type

(3,030 posts)
1. According to many here, NYT, WP, CNN, MSNBC, WSJ are right wing. So jury looks stacked.
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 09:50 PM
Apr 20

Being facetious, I think.

It is an interesting jury. Considering how many are professionals and appear widely read, a few are going to read and browse when off duty, despite judge’s directions.

PufPuf23

(8,854 posts)
10. It is often said that the MSM has a liberal bias.
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 10:12 PM
Apr 20

IMHO a rational way to look at MSM is ownership.

Hard to have confidence given the level of gaslighting most Americans (and humans) experience.

Credentials don't mean as much as in the past; probably a goal of some social engineers.

So much goes or could go wrong.

I am tired.

Srkdqltr

(6,379 posts)
6. Im not as jury savvy as you all are, but this sort of jury speculation is not right.
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 10:00 PM
Apr 20

These people are under enough pressure without folks putting THEM on trial.
I find this sort of dissecting of them and publishing what they do disgusting.

I wonder if it comes close to jury tampering?

underpants

(183,008 posts)
29. Google News is pretty placid really
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 04:37 PM
Apr 21

I check it for the arcing news stories that might not be on DU. I check Fox from time to time (as the WH press office obviously does). Google News is a pretty bland news source.

bucolic_frolic

(43,478 posts)
8. Narcissists are fragile and easily swayed
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 10:04 PM
Apr 20

#2 will have the logical skills of a cactus, and the information flow of a pudding. Not a leader in other words.

Westcoast4life

(21 posts)
9. This can't be real. They released the questionnaire to the public a week ago, but not the completed ones.
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 10:09 PM
Apr 20

This is likely a troll that has filled in the blanks for luls.

Mark.b2

(261 posts)
11. Trump will be convicted
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 10:13 PM
Apr 20

With the make up of the jury (white collar New Yorkers) and a judge who's, so far, made it clear he's no Trump fan, I don't see anyway Trump isnt convicted. I've not seen even one pundit that thinks Trump walks.

This is THE case that's finally going to take him down. The other NY case was just the appetizer!

As for Juror #2, I dont believe a person gets their news solely from TS, especially an investment banker. I suspect he wanted to be on the jury (as probably most do), and he figured it would be a nice touch to say he uses TS.

Worry not!

Mark.b2

(261 posts)
14. His profile on NBC says he's a security engineer....
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 10:32 PM
Apr 20

Who's into woodworking and metalworking.

From that, I would say he's very analytical and left-brained. I'd guess he's not the life of the party...if he even goes to parties!

mahina

(17,751 posts)
23. He's not an engineer
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 10:07 AM
Apr 21

The term security engineer could mean a lot of things. He graduated from high school. I don’t know what a Security engineer is. I don’t think it is as nerdy as it sounds

Tumbulu

(6,292 posts)
24. I am surrounded by T supporters and this fellow could be one of my neighbors.
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 04:07 PM
Apr 21

T has bamboozled many of us who work with our hands and fill the ranks of the working world. Somehow he appeals to them in a way I have yet to grasp.

Looking at this on The NY Times I was shocked that he was let on.

But, hopefully the prosecutors saw something in him that led them to believe that he would listen to the facts.

But my initial reaction was not good.

underpants

(183,008 posts)
27. He may be someone who has their world as they want it.
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 04:23 PM
Apr 21

Checks the weather maybe sports but probably not.

TexasDem69

(1,887 posts)
17. The prosecution doesn't have unlimited numbers of challenges
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 10:57 PM
Apr 20

Or a jury would never get seated. I’m sure the defense could argue that a juror can’t be impartial because they get news from MSNBC, but that’s not how the real world works. This isn’t a Grisham novel.

chowder66

(9,104 posts)
18. My understanding is that juror 2
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 11:49 PM
Apr 20

Is not on truth social but follows Michael cohen on twitter and sees truth social posts.

Tree Lady

(11,534 posts)
19. How many of you that are posting
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 12:26 AM
Apr 21

comments have been on a jury trial?

I have been on two and I can tell you there is a lot of pressure if there is 1 or 2 against the others to change your mind.

One of the juries I was on this conservative lady wanted to find the guy guilty with zero evidence just because someone cried on the stand. You have to look at the facts of the case and vote on that. We got her to change her mind. Poor guy didn't do anything wrong and because he was poor, mexican living in a conservative area he had no money for bail and was in jail for many months and lost custody of his daughter that he got because his ex was on drugs.

Thankfully we set him free. Oh and he lost his job too. Our system is pretty tough on poor minorities who get into trouble.

The other case I was on the guy was guilty and we eventually all agreed on it. Doesn't usually happen first vote.

Tumbulu

(6,292 posts)
25. Thanks for calming me down
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 04:11 PM
Apr 21

I was worrying about this all night.

I am wasting way too much time worrying about things I can do nothing about.

underpants

(183,008 posts)
26. I was called for jury duty twice in the city of Richmond
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 04:20 PM
Apr 21

Both were personal injury cases against trucking firms from what I could gather. I was not in the courtroom very long.

The first one I was dismissed and saw a gentleman get on the jury who I’d seen at my place of work. He had mental issues. Hey he was on his meds so everything was okay.

The second one I had a view of the check off list by the plaintiffs side. I was the first immediate X.

Not really comparable to your experience but I always thought it was telling.

underpants

(183,008 posts)
31. Talk radio is notably missing from options. Very influential. I listen to it.
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 04:44 PM
Apr 21

I listen to it almost as opposition research.

It’s a strange world of topics that you’d never hear on any actual news source BUT it’s very influential and it’s on in NYC.

Most AM stations have a FM channel after the FCC opened up frequencies a few years ago.

NanaCat

(1,510 posts)
35. #1 is a far greater concern
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 07:31 PM
Apr 21

The Daily Mail is a right-wing British rag. He's also checked off Fox as a news source.

PCIntern

(25,643 posts)
37. I understand and tend to agree but
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 07:45 PM
Apr 21

I know many liberals who watch a lot of Fox because they love to scream at the TV. That being said…😳🥺🙄

 

Chainfire

(17,757 posts)
39. 40% of American voters are Trump supporters, what is the odds of not getting one on the jury?
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 08:03 PM
Apr 21

A man hears what he wants to hear and he disregards the rest.

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