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Tommy Carcetti

(43,198 posts)
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 08:08 PM Apr 23

The thing to understand about the National Enquirer...

…is you didn’t have to buy it to read it.

You didn’t even have to consider buying it to read it.

All you had to do was stand in the grocery store checkout aisle and there it was, with pictures and big headlines promising huge exclusive stories.

So even if you were just standing there, the chances it might subliminally affect you are notable.

Hillary Clinton, a crook?

Hillary Clinton, deathly ill?

Donald Trump, the victim of a set up?

All of these things could be communicated without even an actual word being said.

And given the margin in the swing states in 2016, the subliminal impact of tabloid headlines on possible voters was much more substantial than you or I might want to admit.

ON EDIT: What Trump sought to use the Enquirer for as free advertising and disinformation was the same as what the Russians did for him with social media. Two different types of media but same intended result.

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The thing to understand about the National Enquirer... (Original Post) Tommy Carcetti Apr 23 OP
Gotta wonder what the rise of self checkout did to their business? n/t CincyDem Apr 23 #1
That's the best thing about self checkout..LOL LeftInTX Apr 23 #7
That was a very good point - the Enquirer is the thing you had to see at the checkout. forgotmylogin Apr 24 #41
I've noticed that too. It seems to have gone back to People and Time etc where I live. LeftInTX Apr 24 #48
But no more UFO stories of rural people being experimented on by aliens? Ah! The good ole days. Wonder Why Apr 23 #2
What happened to Nessie anyways? n/t ArkansasDemocrat1 Apr 23 #18
and no more Elvis sightings either DBoon Apr 23 #30
The National Enquirer was a gossip tabloid involving real people. Tommy Carcetti Apr 24 #33
Only people in their radical right mind believe the Enquirer. Wonder Why Apr 24 #38
HEY! Bat Boy was a totally real thing! Ligyron Apr 24 #42
I honestly think claudette Apr 23 #3
Agreed nikatnyte Apr 23 #19
The magazine exists to take advantage of people who do not examine the sources too closely, who are easily manipulated Ford_Prefect Apr 23 #20
Are you referring to celebrity gossip tabloids like the National Enquirer? Tommy Carcetti Apr 24 #35
one suspects people who look at that rag have already made up their minds on most issues nt msongs Apr 23 #4
Not necessarily Tommy Carcetti Apr 23 #8
That was a strong intent. LiberalFighter Apr 23 #5
A sad fact, well exposed. OAITW r.2.0 Apr 23 #6
For what it's worth, one of so-called legal experts on tv said defense will show N Enquirer Silent Type Apr 23 #9
I always thought there was this percentage of people CanonRay Apr 23 #10
TFG had his own "fake news" outlet. Sneederbunk Apr 23 #11
Those stories also make their way into the msm as they feel they need to cover it or respond to it. unblock Apr 23 #12
Batboy. Igel Apr 23 #13
To be honest gay texan Apr 23 #27
Batboy is alive and real in Florida! Blue Owl Apr 24 #32
This: "What Trump sought to use the Enquirer for as free advertising and disinformation was the same as what the Martin68 Apr 23 #14
When I was in college back in the 1960s HUAJIAO Apr 23 #15
I'm always surprised by the number of people... surfered Apr 23 #16
Bingo TC DENVERPOPS Apr 23 #17
I turned against the Nation Enquirer when they plastered pictures of Princess Diana's death scene...Horrible CarolinaNC Apr 23 #21
I miss Weekly World News at the checkout... catbyte Apr 23 #22
Love me some Bat Boy....LOL diverdownjt Apr 23 #24
Last I heard he's trying to attack Medicare and Social Security Blue Owl Apr 24 #31
Bat Boy looks like Rudy Giuliani as a child. nt PufPuf23 Apr 24 #44
Nailed it orangecrush Apr 23 #23
Aliens!! The #1 topic WarGamer Apr 23 #25
The National Enquirer is a celebrity gossip tabloid involving stories about real people. Tommy Carcetti Apr 24 #34
always worth a laugh in line at the store WarGamer Apr 24 #36
Great take TC. NoMoreRepugs Apr 23 #26
I don't think the NI is much like if was in the old days. captain queeg Apr 23 #28
Seth Abramson points to Saudi funding of the catch-and-kill stories. summer_in_TX Apr 23 #29
Republican OWNED Media is a "thing". live love laugh Apr 24 #37
My mother-in-law moniss Apr 24 #39
The cover in the check out line is what most people saw. It was always worth a chuckle. twodogsbarking Apr 24 #40
It was always about Hillary's health. It was like having Fox News piped into the grocery store. LeftInTX Apr 24 #49
The eyes see, the mind registers, the mindless believe sanatanadharma Apr 24 #43
Every time Always Blue Apr 24 #45
Once I got used to doing my own shopping as an adult, NanaCat Apr 24 #46
Propaganda can be very subtle. Liberal In Texas Apr 24 #47
the National Enquirer is trump mountain grammy Apr 24 #50

forgotmylogin

(7,531 posts)
41. That was a very good point - the Enquirer is the thing you had to see at the checkout.
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 03:53 PM
Apr 24

Trump got a ton of free advertising and "people are saying" gossip through this.

Honestly after the 2016 election, the Enquirer from what I saw completely reversed and went back to celebrity gossip only.

I've noticed most stores now don't carry as many tabloids, it's more wellness/diet/architecture/history/biography "special edition" coffee-table magazines that are less periodical and more like a softcover book.

LeftInTX

(25,556 posts)
48. I've noticed that too. It seems to have gone back to People and Time etc where I live.
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 07:06 PM
Apr 24

Lots of celebrity stuff, but I can live with that.

Tommy Carcetti

(43,198 posts)
33. The National Enquirer was a gossip tabloid involving real people.
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 10:24 AM
Apr 24

Publications like World Weekly News dealt with the sensational supernatural stuff that no one in their right mind would believe.

There's a difference.

Ligyron

(7,639 posts)
42. HEY! Bat Boy was a totally real thing!
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 05:50 PM
Apr 24

He was gubiner of Florida before flying off to D.C. as (gulp) our Senator.

claudette

(3,599 posts)
3. I honestly think
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 08:13 PM
Apr 23

the magazine isn’t the problem. The problem is that there are crazy people who actually BELIEVE the junk in those magazines.

nikatnyte

(242 posts)
19. Agreed
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 10:05 PM
Apr 23

Any rational person, by this time, looks at the National Enquirer and immediately questions their headlines. I'd never believe any of them. (Yes, yes, I know...most people aren't that rational.)

Ford_Prefect

(7,921 posts)
20. The magazine exists to take advantage of people who do not examine the sources too closely, who are easily manipulated
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 10:05 PM
Apr 23

in the same way children can be, through emotionalized headlines and outright sensationalized lies.

They do not ask for this manipulation and do not deserve it. No more so than people with little money want a liquor store, or a gun store in their neighborhood, or a drug dealer in the building they live in.

Tommy Carcetti

(43,198 posts)
35. Are you referring to celebrity gossip tabloids like the National Enquirer?
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 10:27 AM
Apr 24

Or the really off the wall supernatural tabloids like World Weekly News?

Because there's a difference between the two as to how plausible their stories might be.

Tommy Carcetti

(43,198 posts)
8. Not necessarily
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 08:21 PM
Apr 23

There are a lot of casual voters who aren’t particularly ideological or deeply involved in following the news, but who still vote.

Seeing an unattractive picture of Hillary Clinton with a negative headline might be enough to plant a seed of doubt in their heads.

Seeing enough of those pictures and headlines only reinforces those doubts, even if it’s not on a conscious level.

That’s the insidious nature of what Trump was planning on in his arrangement with the Enquirer.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,610 posts)
6. A sad fact, well exposed.
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 08:14 PM
Apr 23

I scan those and shake my head at the stupidity. Others see it and think, "yeah, that makes sense".

Silent Type

(2,966 posts)
9. For what it's worth, one of so-called legal experts on tv said defense will show N Enquirer
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 08:21 PM
Apr 23

has done this before for people not remotely tied to trump. I don’t know whether that’s true or not, or even if it’s relevant.

I did a Google search and found articles like one in 2012 N Enquirer entitled, “Romney Abortion Bombshell, he got 2 mistresses pregnant.”

CanonRay

(14,118 posts)
10. I always thought there was this percentage of people
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 08:22 PM
Apr 23

who read the Enquierer and watched pro wrestling who were on the fringe of sanity. They are now a political movement called MAGA.

unblock

(52,328 posts)
12. Those stories also make their way into the msm as they feel they need to cover it or respond to it.
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 08:57 PM
Apr 23

And especially if Donnie then talked about it.

Igel

(35,359 posts)
13. Batboy.
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 09:04 PM
Apr 23

Apparently some reporters were shocked by the pay-for-the-story idea.

Really? Batboy was a real thing? Uh ... full human.

Sometimes it's like they have their head under a rock. That's been dropped from dozens of meters up.

Martin68

(22,890 posts)
14. This: "What Trump sought to use the Enquirer for as free advertising and disinformation was the same as what the
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 09:25 PM
Apr 23

Russians did for him with social media. Two different types of media but same intended result."

HUAJIAO

(2,400 posts)
15. When I was in college back in the 1960s
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 09:26 PM
Apr 23

I once had a summer job working for a landscaping company. We landscaped/mowed the lawn for the then owner of the National Inquirer - Generoso Pope !!

surfered

(537 posts)
16. I'm always surprised by the number of people...
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 09:29 PM
Apr 23

…who believe this stuff. The same people who believe professional wrestling is real.

DENVERPOPS

(8,845 posts)
17. Bingo TC
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 09:29 PM
Apr 23

A lot of the same muck that Hitler did in his early days.......

Tell a lie, and keep repeating it.....

Take control of the Media

ETCETCETC

CarolinaNC

(81 posts)
21. I turned against the Nation Enquirer when they plastered pictures of Princess Diana's death scene...Horrible
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 10:12 PM
Apr 23

Trump and national enquirer have been buddies. You are right, he fed them disinformation and they used it.

Tommy Carcetti

(43,198 posts)
34. The National Enquirer is a celebrity gossip tabloid involving stories about real people.
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 10:26 AM
Apr 24

What you're thinking of are papers like the World Weekly News, which dealt with the crazy supernatural stuff like aliens and bigfoot that no one in their right mind would take seriously.

But people might take gossip about a real person seriously.

Even if it wasn't true.

captain queeg

(10,247 posts)
28. I don't think the NI is much like if was in the old days.
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 11:26 PM
Apr 23

They got sued so many times they really toned it down.

summer_in_TX

(2,754 posts)
29. Seth Abramson points to Saudi funding of the catch-and-kill stories.
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 11:33 PM
Apr 23



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Hey, let’s hope no one asks David Pecker who was *paying* for all Trump’s catch-and-kill operations during the 2016 U.S. presidential election, because—spoiler alert!—it was the Saudis, who had cut a deal with Don Jr. to illegally interfere in the election in early August 2016.
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Seth Abramson
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MORE/ How do I know this, you wonder? Well, I’m glad you asked. I wrote all about it, with full sourcing, in a NEW YORK TIMES bestseller that was published five years ago.

Maybe people will care *now*? Or no?




Seth Abramson
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You’re getting *very warm*, James.

I said that this criminal trial is very much about illegal election interference, and I meant it. Per usual, the good guys are only telling about 10% of the story in order to not ruffle feathers. But America deserves the full truth about this. x.com/JamesSNYC/stat…
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James
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Let’s not forget that David Pecker published a glossy custom magazine without ads on Saudi Arabia that was distributed by AMI in the USA. It extolled the virtues of Saudi Arabia and its destinations. A total puff piece. Follow the money. 💰

(Link to the article about the glossy custom magazine: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna868581)




Seth Abramson
@SethAbramson
Saudi Arabia.

Once you understand that the arrangement between AMI and Trump was in fact an arrangement between AMI and Trump and MBS, you understand it all.
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Trying to pierce Pecker's claim that the arrangement was mutually beneficial, ADA Steinglass notes that catch-and-kill of the alleged affairs didn't benefit AMI's magazines.

moniss

(4,274 posts)
39. My mother-in-law
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 01:39 PM
Apr 24

used to buy a couple of the tabloids every week. She was convinced about 4 headed aliens and dogs with a head on each end. When challenged she would insist it had to be true in order for a company to print it. Good heart but susceptible mind.

sanatanadharma

(3,730 posts)
43. The eyes see, the mind registers, the mindless believe
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 06:01 PM
Apr 24

Biggest cover story of all: 35 ways the National Enquirer's publisher boosted Donald Trump

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100218891876

Always Blue

(30 posts)
45. Every time
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 06:16 PM
Apr 24

When I would go through checkout line I either turned them around or put other magazines in front of them.
I think that they should have been sued over the lies. Not just ignored because no one will read it.

NanaCat

(1,251 posts)
46. Once I got used to doing my own shopping as an adult,
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 06:27 PM
Apr 24

I never looked at them in the checkout unless someone brought them to my attention for some reason. I'd have to think hard to know what was at the checkout at all. I was busy enough emptying the cart, getting my payment method ready, doing one last double-check of the items against my list, keeping an eye on the cashier's scans, keeping track of my kid when he was young, and so on. I didn't even notice the other junk.

Might have also helped to have shopped at military commissaries for several years during my young adult life. They didn't stock junk at the checkouts so what little of a habit I had with looking at the displays got erased, once and for all.

Of course, now I'm a curbside/delivery shopper, so even less chance that I might see any of them.

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