She even looks like her.

The SD governor does not.

Like Sarah singing, “In the arm of an Angel” sitting on the roof with his dog, tears running down his face.

I for one hope he does pick her.

The wry jokes and political cartoons will just write themselves.

With any luck, it's in the statute of limitations.

my opinion, it's an actionable felony.

“Cruelty” is mistreatment and inflicting pain over a period of time. They have a part in there about humane killing. I’m betting that’s what she’d say she did - totally disregarding Cricket was a happy, healthy pup

What happens to a Republican next?

What an utter piece of shit. Is she up for re-election anytime soon?

There's no way Cheeto will pick Kristi Moan now - because as much as he hates dogs too, he knows most people love them.

Even Republicans.

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a damn what anybody thinks, unless it is something about HIM. Considering how much he hates women, I really cannot see him choosing one as his vp pick, but, if he did, I would say this murdering creature just moved to the top of the list.

I for one hope he does pick Cruella deNoem.

She'd be slaughtered like that poor dog (politically).

He doesn't care what people think about Noem. But he does care if people are angry at her and it could affect how people think about him if he chooses her as a running mate.

His people have thrown her under the bus earlier. Leaks about her affair with Corey Lewandowski came from his camp, I believe. It was an attempt to get her "in line."

to train her, or hire someone who could, or find a more appropriate home for her; instead, she coldly discarded a healthy, sentient creature as if she were nothing more than a malfunctioning machine. And then she actually bragged about it instead of being ashamed, as she should have been; she thought it would add to her MAGA creds as being someone who had the "courage" to do something difficult and unpleasant because it "had to be done." Except that it didn't have to be done. It was just easier for her; she never considered the dog to be a thinking, feeling being, just something to be thrown away for not functioning the way she wanted and causing inconvenience. We normal people consider euthanizing a beloved pet who has become old or sick an incredibly painful experience that is reluctantly done out of mercy, and find the idea of killing a healthy young dog just for not responding to (probably incompetent) training absolutely appalling. But Noem thinks it's a sign of strength. There's a special place in Hell...

You know as well as I do. With republicans, it's about the cruelty.

The alpha personality is not synonymous with cruel or sadistic. The negative aspects of it can result in that, but it is not endemic to the type. Sort of like how you can have people who are in the medical field, and most of them aren't sadists. Some of them can be, because no group is bereft of bad actors. But it's not a defining feature of the group in general.

and she brags about it?

tells you a whole lot about this person.

You could torture a dog - and at most it would be a misdemeanor and a fine.

Growing up in Mississippi, I recall one such kid. No one could do a thing about it; I think he later committed suicide.

Piece of shit is dead

Mean, rotten drunk - and of course, a very far-right bigot and Republican.

The kind of whom it wouldn't have surprised me to see him among the Jan.6 assailants (but he's probably dead too).

The kid might've turned out different with a decent father; had a sadness in his eyes.

A mean alcoholic raped me too but I never took it out on animals. You have to make a choice to kill your empathy at some point to hurt animals or you are born without it.
Abuse does not create abusers that is called the vampire myth.

The fact his empathy was fucked up makes me glad there is 1 less sociopath on this planet.

As for his family left behind that cared about him it’s sad indeed.

I'm in awe of you for being such a well-rounded and good-hearted person.

God bless you, and All the Best.

Something is seriously wrong with her.

I was shocked at how gleefully/proudly she related the story. She makes me sick.

About the dog killing chickens, then it was considered normal for that dog to be killed where I live. Dogs killing chickens - that was totally unacceptable especially in small towns and farming communities.

Some context should have been given - reference the killing of the dog.

My grandparents lived in the country. Everyone there had a dog, and my grand-da always had at least one hunting dog. Funny, nobody's dog ever ate chickens. Not even once. Know why?

Proper training. When you have well-trained dogs in the hinterlands, your livestock is safe.

This evil psychopath was too lazy and stupid to train the dog right.

Full stop.

In our town, there were dogs that killed chickens, it happens.

Some dogs can’t be broken of the habit once acquired - even tho’ the method of wrapping a dead chicken around the dog’s neck and letting it rot would sometimes work.

Nothing is 100%, and some dogs kill chickens.

I’ve unfortunately lost a few chickens - but my dogs still sleep on my bed.

Grew up on a farm, and currently hobby farm, raising chickens primarily.

I'm on a few Facebook pages dedicated to backyard chickens, and every single week there's a post by someone who's lost birds or even a whole flock to either their own dog, or a neighbor's unrestrained dog.

That's no excuse for Noem, because she had the option to rehome the dog, though.

I've seen some pretty shitty things defended here on DU, but this one takes the cake.

Only that it happens and yes it does happen in the country.

I used to spend some time in south western wisconsin and had a dog that would love to run down to where the cows were if he got put and although the farmer never shot him, he did fire his shotgun once trying to scare off my dog. It happens.

I was terrified that he was going to get shot because I had been warned it would/could happen.

that some context should have been given. That reads an awful lot like a defense to me. Just because some psychopathic behavior may be common in shithole areas of the country doesn't make the behavior less shitty.

Shooting off warning shots to scare is completely different from dragging a helpless animal to a gravel pit and actually shooting them. Taking that poor puppy to the vet to be put down would have at least been humane. Instead, she chose the violent, psychopathic route and traumatized her children.

Which I why I always read what the defense says before coming to an opinion. With that said, I don't support putting dogs down for killing chickens. Only if they bite people with the intent to kill would I be in favor of putting them down. Hell, Biden didn't even have his dog Commander put down, and he bit 24 people.

Update: Apparently her dog apparently did bite her, although that's not enough imo to shoot the dog.

Three good-sized dogs got into the pasture, and had ripped a chunk out of one of our dairy cows by the time my dad and I heard the commotion and got out there in the truck. I hit one of them in the hip with my .22, it went down, and the other two ran off. It was still alive though, so I had to shoot it again, and then my dad went driving around knocking on neighbor's doors. No one admitted that it was their dog, because doing so would mean they'd have to pay the vet bill to sew up the cow's leg. So we had to eat the cost to get her patched up.

It wasn't something I was ever proud of doing, nor something I would publish in a memoir of my life. But those cattle put food on the table. It was an unspoken rule out in the country: if your dog attacked livestock, don't expect to see it again.

According to Defenders of Wildlife only 2% of loss of cattle is due to wolves (in areas where they are not killed), while about 14% are lost to feral dogs. I would trust what they say because they have a program that reimburses farmers for lost livestock if they participate in a DOW program for non-lethal deterrents.
I haven't lived in a rural area, but have driven through visiting friends, family, or just passing through, but I would say the feral dog problem is largely due to lack of proper care for pets. Many dogs are just left to run loose, aren't properly fed or cared for, and not spayed/neutered. One place in rural MO that I travelled through fairly regularly for a short time, I observed a feral pack that was feeding on a rotting cow over a period of weeks.
But I also believe there is a big gap between people who do things like you did because it was necessary and those that think it is an easy way to handle "problem" animals, like this governor did (and as folks have said, probably a problem of her own making). Of course, she might be exaggerating because she wants to look tough to the nutjobs.

I'm told it was a problem dog and was known to bite people - including 6 year old me.

There's something really off about the way she describes it. I wouldn't even be surprised if she made up the part about the chickens. Her reason for killing the dog was that it didn't readily hunt pheasants. It sounded like poor/zero training to me, followed by a temper tantrum on her part.

Also, she shot the goat because it was not neutered and "mean." Well, neuter the goat.

Reading the whole passage this does not sound like a farmer who knows what she's doing. It sounds like a wannabe "farmer" who doesn't have a clue what she's doing, and when the animals she'd collected didn't magically train themselves she took delight in shooting them.

We all know the type.

I was just responding to the Post.

And Yes, I agree with you - there are people like that.

And both that dog (purebred, I'm sure) and the goat could have found other homes. And neuter the damned goat for heaven's sakes!

This does sound to me like the dog was not suitable for hunting, but that doesn't mean, with the proper training, she could have been a family pet.

Sick to take an animal out and shoot it.

away from livestock? Or at least taken to a shelter. No the bitch just got her kicks out of shooting something. Sorry I am getting so mad, but I see red when someone kills a dog unless it's necessary to save a human it's attacking or another pet, or it's an act of mercy euthanasia.

Back in the day (over fifty plus years ago, closer to sixty , we didn’t hear or see a lot of stuff about ASPCA???, where they talk about taking in pets, etc.

In a small town, giving the dog(s) away with that particular problem was just transferring it to another location. Maybe dogs were smarter then cause they could always find their way home - but relocation was not an answer. Maybe some did relocate to where there were not chickens, but what happened after, don’t really know. Maybe the problem with the dog was just chickens, but who would know and then again there was the chance that the problem might manifest itself against something else.

I just don’t know, hope that answers your question to the best of my ability.

there weren't as many shelters, and I thank you for that. In the present there are alternatives, and she should have sought them out, instead of just giving in to her hatred and shooting it.

Heck there are even pilots who volunteer their time and fuel to fly dogs and cats to places where they can be trained by professionals and re-homed.

And leave her unattended around chickens? The entire incident (if it even occurred) was her fault!

But unfortunately you are asking the wrong person (smiling).

On edit: Thinking, I’m not a rich person but I suspect that part of the rational (if you can call it that) is the prestige of owning a dog (suspect it might have been a pedigree dog). Having always owned or been around mutts, I am thinking that pure breeds require more training and might be more high-strung. Someone that has owned those types of dogs might be better able to answer.


It was a puppy and all puppies have to be trained - and if the dog was a bird dog (or retriever of some type) they would naturally be attracted to birds, and without some training just wouldn’t know how to react, but the attraction would be there.

The dog in some ways was just being a dog.

Humanely putting an animal down?
Glad she didn't feel that way about her own kids.......

did not stop the dog?

including serial killers start with torturing and killing domestic animals.

https://www.aetv.com/real-crime/first-they-tortured-animals-then-they-turned-to-humans

she couldn't put up with that.

a sick woman, shooting her puppy?????? She needs to be fined for killing a defenseless animal.

Moreover, she took both animals to a PUBLIC area, and she shot them dead in full view of witnesses and then, in typical Trumpian fashion, I.e. taking zero responsibility for the harms they cause to other people or the environment, left their bodies to rot, thereby causing public harm. She is puerile scum, and if the statute of limitations hasn’t run she ought to be prosecuted. 🤬

.... or the highway to heaven.
(a bullet between the eyes... do not undermine my authority, or the result will be your death by my hand/gun.)

- Kristi Noem -

The hallmark of a Fascist.

They can do anything. This is who she is.

"We're responsible hunters and never waste anything we kill for fun, see?

Regardless, I kind think she's “less than worthless … as a governor”.

She admits it. In public.

And not too bright, either, since there are tons of republican & maga dog lovers, too.

I suppose to her it was no different than killing a deer or other wild animal.

Can't have that! The woman is insane, and shouldn't be in any public office - or public place, for that matter. Nobody's telling tales out of school, here - she's tooting her own horn. What the hell is wrong with South Dakota?

This book is a set of examples showing exactly what is wrong with America. It’s people like her who believe and do the things she believes and does

Should never reward sociopath behavior and ban sociopaths from all public office and make someone with a felony or multiple convictions cannot run for public office. If they can’t vote they can’t be trusted to be a congressperson or president

get elected. I was disappointed when one was release when Obama was running. I wasn't watching ads in 2020 (mind made up and we stream). Did Biden have a firearm moment?

They start abusing animals, then move on to humans. Even TN recognizes this and passed laws against it.

I bet her children have some horror stories.

the guy scared me - he was cold.

The dog was, well, rowdy - and one day he had a fit and beat it to death; you could hear the yelps - and we saw him put it in a black bag in the trash.

We called the cops, but he played it cool - and since he was a white, middle-class Repug, they took him at his word. No searches.

On his license plates: NEED GOD.

Did he ever.

(I think his wife divorced him shortly afterward)

TFG hates dogs and Noem wants to be TFG's VP

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

notice that their eyes look similar to me-both dead and cold.

Fade into oblivion, you demented monster

that didn't care about hunting, and the goat couldn't have been neutered?

Who had been left in the shelter because she killed a chicken and was " unable to be trained for their ranch" they wrote a long list of things wrong with her. Snootchie was a beautiful Britney-austrailan mix. She was the most loving dog with all who met her. She played with cats and other dogs. Her one fault was she loved to chase squirrels and birds. We lost her in 2016 still miss her.

Edited to add: In all the years we had the pleasure of her in our lives, she never caught or killed another animal or bite a child or an adult.

I have had Aussies (a blue Merle and a red Merle) and now have a Brittany. He’s an adorable dog but honestly not the sharpest knife in the drawer. He does love everyone and is a fabulous cuddle bug. I imagine the combo of the two breeds is amazing!

I now have the ambition to personally kick her in the face, while wearing heels.

The poor pup just didn’t want to retrieve anything. So the goofy lab puppy became the most wonderful - and spoiled - house dog ever.

The original owner didn’t shoot or abandon the animal. He found a home more suited to the dog. Everyone was happy especially the dog. While his litter mates were freezing their tails in a cold duck blind, he was sitting on a cushy couch in a warm house

Kristi Noem is an awful person - and not just because she shot her dog. There is a special place in hell for her

The smiles he still brings all these decades later, as with all the others.
If I can't be reunited with my pups in whatever afterlife there may be the universe can get fucked.

I only hope I get to go there, too. There are days/moments when that destination is highly questionable 😄

German shorthair pointers are awesome dogs. Zeus (current dog) used to run and play with one. Both dogs had so much energy to burn off. So much energy…

Do you currently have a dog?

But when the time is right I'll welcome it.

Might be a little off theologically…. ☺️.

Miss Family Values laid down with a dog- Corey Lewdanowski- and came up with fleas.

I hope that POS Trump chooses her for his VP running mate and they get their asses kicked at the ballot box in November.

Our three best dogs were all acquired at about a year. The three worst were acquired as puppies (still loved but each one had their issues).

I can't imagine killing a young dog with no major medical issues. What cretin does this?

What a SF audition for VP.

for tsf veep, now! 🙄

She is really ill. Noem =

She's a fucking psychopath.

If you have an uncontrollable urge to kill SOMETHING, it might as well be a domesticated animal that presents no danger to you, and thus will sit still while you pull the trigger.

Not quite the kind of person I'd want a heartbeat from the Presidency, though. Just saying...............

gets arrested and soon.

..Goat
..Country
..Democrat
..Man
..Woman
..Child

It is so unAmerican.

so they're just profiling

I don't have a magnet for her but the semi-feral kitty who lives in my shed is one too.

Cats are seen as un-American. Cat hating is also tied closely with misogyny and anti-intellectualism.

Republicans usually like dogs because they insist on being in control, and most dogs obey them. Cats don't play that game, and that enrages many of them, especially the males.

Probably in her quest to appear "not girly" and thus retain power and fit in with the toxic-masculinity culture of her rural state, Noem has embraced the cruelty and violence traditionally associated with males. She was enraged that she couldn't control this particular dog. So she shot it. She's a fucking monster.

(I am a huge cat person, but I like animals in general and think dogs and all pets deserve loving homes and good care.)

The first article from WhyAxis, in the second paragraph, linked to a study in which the abstract states outright, emphasis mine:

always told women to avoid men who hate cats (not talking allergic, that is different), because they generally also hate strong, smart, independent women. Most of the women I know have observed the same thing. So, not scientifically up to your standards I would guess, but lots of personal experience.