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Bucky

(54,087 posts)
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 11:44 AM Apr 26

a MN state senator was booked for breaking into her stepmother's home, but it turns out she's DFL, so I lost interest.

State Sen. Nicole Mitchell broke into the home to retrieve her late father's ashes. I was hoping she was GOP so I could make fun of her, but it turns out she's one of us. So there's probably a tragic story behind this perfectly understandable misjudgment and I think we should respect her privacy.

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a MN state senator was booked for breaking into her stepmother's home, but it turns out she's DFL, so I lost interest. (Original Post) Bucky Apr 26 OP
"retrieving Father's ashes from Stepmother's home''' yeah, quite the inexplicable 'scandal' there... hlthe2b Apr 26 #1
Agree. There's no reason at all for the dad's surviving life partner to want those ashes. Bucky Apr 26 #3
Your post seems dripping with sarcasm. I dont' know this person--just commenting on how I'd feel hlthe2b Apr 26 #4
(mostly making fun of myself) Bucky Apr 26 #20
Legally they are the widow's, without a will they will go to the surviving partner ripcord Apr 26 #7
Oh, give it a break. I am only saying there is grief involved--not defending her becoming a class A burgler. hlthe2b Apr 26 #9
You asked who had more claim than the biological daughter and I told you the law ripcord Apr 26 #11
I am speaking morally. Legal rights do not always differentiate. hlthe2b Apr 26 #12
How can you decide what is moral if you don't have any facts? ripcord Apr 26 #13
I mentioned this in the post(s) you did not read. hlthe2b Apr 26 #14
Of course, no jumping to conclusions at all ripcord Apr 26 #15
Well, I could certainly say the same for you... hlthe2b Apr 26 #16
Being "one of us" doesn't absolve her. Ocelot II Apr 26 #2
Exactly sarisataka Apr 26 #6
She wore all black clothing and entered through a window, Croney Apr 26 #5
agree Bucky Apr 26 #21
My ethics are not situational sarisataka Apr 26 #8
No one argues... but fingerwagging in such situations where grief is obviously at play is low rent hlthe2b Apr 26 #10
Regardless of her motives, she's certainly fucked up the DFL trifecta; the senate is now 33-33. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 26 #17
No matter what party I would actually give the benefit of the doubt chowder66 Apr 26 #18
Why would someone want to retrieve their parent's ashes in such a manner? LeftInTX Apr 26 #19
It's grief. It makes us do dumb things. Bucky Apr 26 #22
As a stepmother myself, I can't imagine A)dealing with a burglary after losing my husband shrike3 Apr 26 #23

hlthe2b

(102,411 posts)
1. "retrieving Father's ashes from Stepmother's home''' yeah, quite the inexplicable 'scandal' there...
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 11:48 AM
Apr 26
(I'd bet that Stepmother is really something albeit I don't know her side of the story... Still, who has more of a claim than the biological daughter?)

Bucky

(54,087 posts)
3. Agree. There's no reason at all for the dad's surviving life partner to want those ashes.
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 11:54 AM
Apr 26

Especially not when his only child (that I know of) is a Democrat and a war hero. Well, a former army meteorologist, but I'm sure she's a war hero too. Here's a picture of her heroic service in our war(?) in Bermuda...

hlthe2b

(102,411 posts)
4. Your post seems dripping with sarcasm. I dont' know this person--just commenting on how I'd feel
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 11:59 AM
Apr 26

if a "stepmother"--even one I liked and had had a good relationship with--ignored my grief and any consideration of my wishes (again, maybe there is more to the story and if the SM really was a loving decades-long life partner than I'd certainly think the two should find a compromise). I find a picture of her with children in Bermuda quite heartwarming... Does she HAVE to be a war hero?

You lost me.

Bucky

(54,087 posts)
20. (mostly making fun of myself)
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 05:10 PM
Apr 26

I was prepared to have a good laugh at Republican hypocrisy only to feel disappointed that the politician was a Democrat. So I'm more amused at my own double standards.

ripcord

(5,550 posts)
7. Legally they are the widow's, without a will they will go to the surviving partner
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 12:02 PM
Apr 26

Dressing up in black to commit a burglary is incredibly out of line for someone who is supposed to create laws to protect people from this type of behavior.

hlthe2b

(102,411 posts)
9. Oh, give it a break. I am only saying there is grief involved--not defending her becoming a class A burgler.
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 12:06 PM
Apr 26

Family matters totally blown out of proportion and politicized is not my idea of helping ANYTHING, but anything goes, it appears nowadays. This ought to be handled by a court-assigned mediation, IMHO and if politics stayed out of it (along with the media) it probably would/could be.

ripcord

(5,550 posts)
11. You asked who had more claim than the biological daughter and I told you the law
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 12:13 PM
Apr 26

Don't get all excited because I added some of my own opinion to your education.

hlthe2b

(102,411 posts)
12. I am speaking morally. Legal rights do not always differentiate.
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 12:16 PM
Apr 26

You can add that to YOUR education.

ripcord

(5,550 posts)
13. How can you decide what is moral if you don't have any facts?
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 12:20 PM
Apr 26

Maybe the step mother had been married to her father for decades and cared for him through his end of life, we don't know because the story has no information about that.

hlthe2b

(102,411 posts)
14. I mentioned this in the post(s) you did not read.
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 12:21 PM
Apr 26

But don't let it diminish your attempt to create a strawman.

ripcord

(5,550 posts)
15. Of course, no jumping to conclusions at all
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 12:29 PM
Apr 26

"I'd bet that Stepmother is really something albeit I don't know her side of the story..."

hlthe2b

(102,411 posts)
16. Well, I could certainly say the same for you...
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 12:32 PM
Apr 26

but instead, I will waste no more time with you. Have a wonderful day--

Ocelot II

(115,887 posts)
2. Being "one of us" doesn't absolve her.
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 11:53 AM
Apr 26

Obviously there's some unfortunate family dynamic going on here, but she broke into the house at night, dressed all in black like a ninja. That's breaking and entering, no matter what the explanation might be, and no matter what her political affiliation is. "Perfectly understandable misjudgment"? Sorry, but I'm not about to excuse that kind of behavior just because someone is "one of us." Sometimes Democrats also do stupid or even criminal things.

Croney

(4,671 posts)
5. She wore all black clothing and entered through a window,
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 12:00 PM
Apr 26

intending to steal the ashes, pictures, and a flannel shirt. Good grief.

The wife of the deceased is the rightful owner of those things. If my husband dies, I keep his ashes.

A disappointing act from a Democrat, to be sure, but we're only human after all. I'd still vote for her over any Repug.

Bucky

(54,087 posts)
21. agree
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 05:11 PM
Apr 26

If I was still in self-mocking mode, I'd try to make a joke about her wearing black cause she's in mourning.

hlthe2b

(102,411 posts)
10. No one argues... but fingerwagging in such situations where grief is obviously at play is low rent
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 12:11 PM
Apr 26

and exploitative IMO.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,456 posts)
17. Regardless of her motives, she's certainly fucked up the DFL trifecta; the senate is now 33-33.
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 12:53 PM
Apr 26

And your broader point made me lol.

chowder66

(9,086 posts)
18. No matter what party I would actually give the benefit of the doubt
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 01:56 PM
Apr 26

as details develop.

Breaking in is wrong but we don't know what's going on that would make a daughter desperate enough to do this.
On the other hand, maybe she's not as sympathetic as the situation presents at this moment in time.

shrike3

(3,813 posts)
23. As a stepmother myself, I can't imagine A)dealing with a burglary after losing my husband
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 06:49 PM
Apr 26

B) Finding out the burglar was a stepchild.

Second wifehood can be a tough gig. Like it or not, you're a latecomer to the family and some people treat you as such. OTOH, some new wives make it hard on themselves. There was a reddit thread about a first wife being asked to take her maiden name back because her ex's fiance wanted to be the only Mrs. so-and-so. If you're that insecure, you have no business stepping into an established family.

Then again, there was a situation where the daughter of a newly-deceased man tried to insist there must be no mention whatsoever of her dad's second wife in his obituary. Only her late mother, she said, should be mentioned. Naturally the widow was upset and the obituary ended up not running. Wonder if Mitchell's dad was a widower when he married, or if there was a contentious divorce.

I can't even imagine what went on between Mitchell and her stepmom. Must have been a major fallout, a major breakdown in communication for this to happen. Or just an acrimonious relationship that lasted throughout the marriage. I'm trying to be understanding, but a burglary is no way to handle.

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