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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI wonder if we've hit a point where SCOTUS will do whatever it takes to make Trump POTUS again?
RussBLib
(9,045 posts)They'd be hunted down and ....it's too much outside the realm of realism for me. They can tweak and push a lot, but they can't be so stupid to upend the entire country.
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MutantAndProud
(742 posts)Bush v Gore
dalton99a
(81,656 posts)Zero concern for democracy, the Constitution, their reputation, or anything else
RussBLib
(9,045 posts)...Bush was a proven commodity. He was kinda dumb but, love him or hate him, a relatively nice guy with no intention of becoming a dictator.
Trump is a quite different animal. People see him as a mendaciously nasty, mean, vindictive, malignant narcissist.
I don't see SCOTUS overthrowing 200+ years of democracy for that clown. Call me naive. Whatever.
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MutantAndProud
(742 posts)Youre not naive though this is still just another chapter in Americas Guinness Book of Bizarre Domestic Adventures.
No SCOTUS ruling can actually itself disband the coequal branches, and in an emergency situation the other branches and their backers will just pivot to dealing with the current problem until its resolved, even if it isnt pretty or painless. We already had an actual civil war before which didnt destroy the system; there just isnt enough steam to start one to force the issue now even if the guy wants to throw fits with a miniature ragtag rebellion. The storming of the Capitol made it controversial to send in armed resistance, but had they actually needed to they wouldnt have lasted an afternoon
even with weapons (last time a civil period of war broke out they didnt have drones and strategic warheads). Plus, Russia is fuming mad because the battle for self determination is at their doorstep, its much harder to run interference now that were all eyes-open.
I think everyone is just sticking to their own back yards at this point minus the active shooters who are too masculine to be comfortable with their own humanity (I read recently that they are so philosophically adamant about sex being for procreation only and not for any fun at all that theyre essentially as evolved as a computer script repeating {ctrl + c; ctrl + v} with their aggro meters set to #terrible toddler# mode
classy and a hoot at parties). Regular biology and a dash of smarts is going to win out over this particular gene pool, party issues and the odd college protest stuff aside, itll collectively be fine even if we have to look out for each other a little more than expected during the troubles and indulge in the odd pessimistic post here or there.
HUAJIAO
(2,406 posts)tirebiter
(2,539 posts)They have made it clear they think that not doing so would be socially irresponsible. I mean think of all the both sided foolishness we might engage in. Like using the 14th amendment. Or not accepting fascism.
wnylib
(21,696 posts)They hide behind a pretense of legal argument, but their mission is clear.
lark
(23,182 posts)They (the fascist 5-6) refused to talk about the immunity case, absolutely refused. They are sending it back to the appeals court to determine if any of this was presidential when that court already ruled it was not! They are making sure there is no election interference case and are probably blocking the documents case as well - traitors that they are if they vote this way. Wonder what they will do if appeals court rules quickly that it is all personal and sends it back to Chutkan? I think they would block it and refuse to hear the case until after the election or hear it but not rule until after the election. If Biden wins, they will rule no immunity, if tsf wins they will say great deference is needed and we'll forgive it this one time only. Watch!
brooklynite
(94,827 posts)Kaleva
(36,371 posts)Girard442
(6,087 posts)bdamomma
(63,941 posts)the SC, let's use our POWER and VOTE!!!! I am not going to do this