Very, very, very rich people.

challenged.

bring us along.

the deal that the GOP rejected last year, I think they are going to take this year. Something like 3:1 spending cuts to tax cuts. And then of course after they get their massive spending cuts they will come back later and get their tax cuts back.

The politics of last year are not the same as they are now.

Do this ... make a PREDICTION ... be specific. Tell us what you think the deal will look like, and when it will happen.

Its easy to predict doom and gloom with no details ... so please, provide the details of what you see coming.

if by "wrong" you mean something I was afraid was going to happen didn't happen, then I am already "wrong," twice. I was afraid Obama and Boehner would reach their grand bargan during the debt ceiling talks. That didn't happen. Then when they kicked it to the Simpson-Bowles I was afraid that would result in a bad deal. Again, it didn't happen. Now I'm afraid the fiscal cliff will be their opportunity to cut it.

They're never going to stop trying to cut Social Security and Medicare. Every year those programs are still in existence, I will be "wrong" because they haven't succeeded yet.

You seem sure that Obama is going to kill them ... so make an actual prediction.

You see the fiscal cliff as an "opportunity" for Obama to cut it. So PREDICT THAT. Explain how it will happen, explain WHY he will do it.

Absent that, you are the boy who cried wolf.

Oh, btw ... your time line is wrong ... Simpson-Bowles (which did nothing) came before the "grand bargin" (which also did nothing). If you are going to describe the doom that did not happen, at least do it in the right order.

not Simpson Bowles. I guess I forgot another time I was "wrong", because I also thought Simpson Bowles would result in entitlement cuts.

Why he would do it, is a lot of people want it to happen. Have you watched TV? Everyone is drooling over the prospect of a grand bargain. And a lot of rich people, some of whom gave Obama a lot of money and others who didn't, all of whom Obama might want to please, really really want it too. When so many people want you to do something, that is a reason you might do it.

You are babbling. "Lots of TV people want it so maybe Obama will do it."

Is that really the best you could come up with?

What you described is the rationale for why a teenager might do something.

Please try to describe the political rationale for Obama doing what you claim he wants to do. What does he get?

Obama does not need any more money from those who contributed to his campaign, he can't run again. SO that part of your argument fails.

Got anything else?

Wait a minute...BRB.



Yeah, I checked it out.

That didn't happen, either.



If I had a dollar for every time Social Security was predicted by some here to have been gutted in the last four years by Obama, Id have more money than Karl Rove blew in a losing effort.

I recently told one of them ... one of those who spent Obama's first term predicting that Obama would kill Social Security, that if Obama LOST, they're prediction was a total failure. And that his re-election allows them to maintain their failed prediction.

They hate that.

Obama has not done the bad thing, so that is a clear indication that he plans to do that bad thing.

Welcome to American austerity. Our economy is being deliberately imploded.

Oh, he must mean those ill-advised folks who oppose cutting so-called entitlement programs. Those goofy dreamers on the "far left" who have no banks behind them.

although some posters here on DU seem to embrace it:

To the left of moi.

Security, Medicaid and Food Stamps from budget cuts. I wouldn't be surprised if that is who he is talking about.

Schumer is a Democrat, but he is from New York. He has to please Wall Street to get elected. It's sad, but it is what it is.

1950s by HUAC and McCarthyism.

Now all that are left are a few 'far leftists,' like myself and a few others here on DU and in some of the fringe 3rd parties.

See also "red baiting".

no longer exists.

He can't come out and say "Communists" and "Communist sympathizers" (even though that's what this 1%er probably thinks and means), b/c to do so would open him to charges of McCarthyism.

Instead, Schumer trots out the shibboleth of the 'far left' as though there is any such organized political force left in this country. I wish there were a far left in this country with real political power. Then 1 out of 5 children would not be living in poverty. Kee-rist.

They particularly hate the fact that this election was a CLEAR REFERENDUM ON AUSTERITY, and we voted NO!.

TPTB picked up the morning after the election pushing the exact fiscal policies, minus (sort of) the continuation of the tax cuts for billionaires, that Romney was selling us.

Need the T-baggers. Just like that.

41% rules.

useful.

ACTUAL filibuster. Where you actually have to show up and filibuster.

He used to be a populist in the House. I have no idea what he is anymore?

He is this:
Committee Assignments:
Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs
Finance
Judiciary
Rules and Administration, Chairman

Whose top donations have come from banks, specifically Securities & Investment... $2,813,364

https://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/summary.php?cid=N00001093

so any Congress person wanting to write a bill that would affect the banks, would see that bill end up in the Banking and/or the Finance Committee.
In 2012, the entire BankingHousing and Urban Affairs Comm. had a total of these
Finance/Insur/Rea Estate donations:
PACS :$11,763,241 Indiv.$30,705,022
(covers both Repug and dem. members)

https://www.opensecrets.org/cmteprofiles/overview.php?cmte=SBAN&cmteid=S06&cycle=2012

In the words of my dear old, gray haired, Irish Socialist granny, "Fuck 'em".

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PB

It's only the far left who is concerned about cuts to the safety net programs. We've been hearing that from the right for quite some time now, and it's no surprise to see Wall Street's boy spewing their shit as well. Of course we all know, a large majority of the country does NOT want to see cuts to those programs.

Start harping about the "professional left" and wanting ponies.

It seems to me that the Dems are falling for the repukes line that they lost because they weren't conservative enough. Further to the right we move...

nt

Wants the left to disappear in between elections. We on the left are wanted for our votes, but the Democratic party doesn't want to acknowledge, must less do anything for the left in this country.