and while I don't think TFOG is going to win the election, what is the next twisting themselves into pretzels hair brained the we-deny-being-political-but-we-obviously-are sh*tus going to do to protect TFOG? If they determine absolute immunity, then we can get rid of the lot of them. BUT that is what they fear (now or later).

But I don't think the court is intended to do what's best for the country. I don't think that should even be a consideration.

when the criminal has the magic R.

because they are criminals themselves.

Supreme Court is above the law because of Marbury v. Madison. SCOTUS is supposed to be a co-equal branch of government. The other 2 branches are supposed to judge them as well. Their imperious rulings should be ignored. Maybe Texas has the right idea? Congress should pass laws they cannot review, by law. THAT is the solution. Pass a law to protect stare decisis and to weaken judicial review for all cases 2 or more years old. Pass a law to review and reconvene confirmation hearings every 5 or 10 years. In 1792, a lifetime appointment meant a max of 20 years in a very slow world! Now it means 30-40 years in a fast paced world. See how we lost power?

I just hope ALL of our Democrats see the situation our country is in. Do EVERYTHING we can possibly do INSTANTLY without hesitation. We,ll have 4 years, DON"T waste a day. IF we have an opportunity to IMPEACH some judges DO It!.If we have an opportunity to PASS an abortion law DO IT! IF we can increase SC judges, DO IT!! It's for our KIDS and GRAND KIDS!! Just DO IT!!

But if you don't have 67 Democrats in the Senate to convict, a House impeachment will be nothing more than performative art. Political masturbation, if you will.

Maybe before Nixon, enough GQP members would have done the right thing so that the Democrats didn't need 67 votes to convict, but that day is long gone. I don't see it coming back anytime soon, either.

Is that really such a good idea?

Maybe, though, make it subject to some kind of extra-SCOTUS review when the plan is to override precedent.

If they get back in the White House and they have a willing Congress and SCOTUS, there's no telling what they could be capable of. We live in some truly frightening times right now.

So, maybe we'll get lucky in the next term, such that a Dem president and Dem Senate can choose their replacements.

Personally, I don't think any governmental positions should have lifetime appointments.

Rather than just expand the court, I'd like to see a system involving Federal justices who serve the court on a rotational basis.

We have created a system of nine kings and queens who owe no allegiance to anything they have said in the past -- things critical to whether or not they got the position. I never heard the term Stare Decisis until Alito said the phrase at his confirmation hearings. I thought it meant to stand by things decided, but apparently it has various connotations similar to the word bullshit.

The sooner the better.

They don't want to be replaced during Biden's second term, or during the following term(s) of Newsom or Whitmer (my current two favorites).

there has to be more diversity. There should be at least one judge from each of the districts. Perhaps the court should have the nine current members, plus the chief appellate judge from the 11 districts. Currently, the Supreme Court the power in the hands of too few.

A conservative majority Supreme Court tried to block FDR's New Deal.

When it looked like congress was going to take action they backed off.

We could do the same with a Democratic controlled congress.

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and they declined, only taking on making a ruling after the circuit court returned what was considered a bullet proof decision that there should be no immunity...no one is above the law.

The SCOTUS 6 have effectively given him immunity since declining to rule in December, and are furthering it until they hand down their ruling on the oral arguments held on April 25...and who knows how long that will take, thereby delaying SC Smith's and Judge Chutgan's district court J6 trial.

I dunno, seems intentional on the SCOTUS 6's part...three and a half years and counting and no trial yet for the insurrectionist-in-chief.

IS exactly where we are at!!

and Chief Justice in my lifetime, and I include the previous scandalous low point of Bush v. Gore. This Court has already played the "Delay Card" and is willfully pushing this Country into very dangerous and perilous territory.

that they think we can't see past their bullshit. Like, we can't figure it out. I resent that. Problem is, these people are not as sharp as previous courts in our history. They are the only Court affected by Trumpian logic, and beholden to Trump. They truly appear stupid, except for a couple of them who may want to do the right thing. I shudder to think of the day that they give Trump the power that he seeks.

we were told, repeatedly, that such legislation was not necessary, because "the courts will protect you." If I could go back in time, I would, just so that I could punch out all those lying sacks of shit.

They could pull this off in November. Sorry i really believe this.

"being hysterical." So many of us could connect the dots to come, but no one listened. Too many are still not listening... and one of the problems I think is because we have TOO much chaos and crises. Elevating one "cause" over another actually works against us, yet we can't seem to pull enough together to form common bonds. I'm thinking now of the protests on college campuses. But, do you remember what the late 60's were like on college campuses? Several tried to make common cause and build coalitions. It's a talent few have, I'm afraid. Yet, that's what's going to be called for this time around. If you think about it, no wonder they want to kill off as many of us liberal elders as possible, as quickly as possible. We've been through this before. We learned, and are willing to pass on the lessons, as well as pull in and help do the hard work now.

Magats are united in common cause. It may be totally simplicit, but there you have it. They want to kill all democracy and any form of liberalism, including us. They've been brainwashed as to how bad all that stuff is for them, and they've bought into it completely. Those pulling the strings have their own cause... power, period. And that includes the damned Dominionism (NAR) church. Study the Middle East... especially Bush's War... and you'll get an idea of the long term plan. They tried so hard to implement it then, but of course it wouldn't work. It's anti-life, anti-humanity. Iraqi's were smart enough to see that, and smart enough to play Bush's lackeys for all they were worth. We should have had Bush and Cheney before a War Tribunal long before *rump came to darken our doorsteps.

Like the Iraqi's, we're going to have to realize NO ONE is going to come to help us. And it's going to bloody, awful, and heart rending to put things back to where they were before Reagan. I'll not see the fruition in my lifetime, I fear. And yet, I'm one of those love-bead wearing flower children who truly hoped to see a united people living together in peace across the world.

I always strongly suspected it but now at 79 years old I know it for sure. History will not treat him kindly.

They know in a heart beat they would be gone if tsf were re-elected. All in all it’s a sick f..king game they are playing…they know that too.

My thing is They have ALL made a decision to bring their religious beliefs full steam ahead. If a person thinks about it, THEY are putting their faith in GOD. THEY really are trusting in God to no end. WE cannot change these religious fanatics thoughts. Almost out of our control. GOD will tell them that a RETHUG needs to win in NOVEMBER. They will do ANYTHING to do it!

for what they do and they in reality have no beliefs?

I have long felt that for all the professing politicians (and I use that term very broadly) their 'beliefs' are merely excuses for what they want to do and justify. Or stated another way, Gawd is an all encompassing excuse for the most vile of laws and actions.

It's possible that it's their way to take advantage of really religious people. FAITH is a powerful tool to use AGAINST a person. Forcing them to do ALL things based on faith. Kinda like the person that KILLS abortion DRS. They actually believe they are chosen by God to kill. Crazy but that's how they think. So, yea take advantage of that type of thinking. That's what TFG is doing, appointing religious fanatics to our Supreme court, and local courts. THEY have a plan, no doubt about it.

The majority no longer serves the law; it serves the Tepublican Party. Sometime in the next 12 months or so, they will prove it beyond any shadow of a doubt and that will pretty much be the end of the American experiment.

Will add here that i actually see THIS supreme court getting braver as days go by. There should have been people in the streets, (on the SC abortion rulings as of late) like we're seeing today because of Gaza. Not looking good for AMERICA.

Seems to me that other cases could continue, and if the SC decides that he is immune, then the cases already decided could be overturned. I'm not a lawyer, obviously.

OF SC DELAYS! That's just the way it is. Except for the one going now.

First, we haven't seen the Supreme Court ruling.

Second, the "hush money" case relates to actions taken before Trump was president and thus has not been and should not be impacted by the immunity issue. Similarly, the charges in the documents case largely relate to actions taken AFTER Trump left office -- obstruction, withholding and concealing documents in a federal investigation, false statements and representations. Even the 32 counts of unlawful withholding defense information cover not just his action in taking the documents on January 20, but his continuous retention of them after that date.

We ALL know she is waiting for this Supreme court to issue a ruling on IMMUNITY. Jack Smith asked for a FAST ruling. Judge Cannon just needs an excuse, right or wrong it's her excuse. That's where we are at. It's the Supreme court plain and simple.

She started delaying the case long before the immunity issue was raised. And she's still been taking action, albeit slowly, which isn't the same as putting the case "on hold" as was suggested by your post.

The immunity from THIS SC is exactly what she is using today. Ask Jack.

That is not putting the case "on hold". If anything, she seems to have put Trump's immunity-based motion on hold waiting for the Supreme Court.

THIS SC had made a decision that grows braver by the day that's it's their MOMENT to do things there way. There is NOBODY to stop them. When they came down with that stupid state rights to rule abortion issues, MASS protests should have happened. (myself included) It didn't so here we are. Dangerous times coming, Our only hope is Joe Biden elected. Both houses OURS. Even at that i fear THIS SC. I do NOT know what can be done, but it seems to me that THIS SC will be making all future rules for us.

It's mine. Now, maybe you think that if Trump is reelected there will be no need for a Supreme Court. I get that, but I don't see the Supreme Court, even this one, going along with its being effectively abolished.

We've NEVER been so uncontrollable as we are today. The SC has never been as powerful as they are today. We are in a KNEW phase in this country. (i've NEVER felt as hopeless of a Supreme Court, EVER. We'll see where this goes. I TRULY hope your right, not because of myself, but because of my country, and all of our kids and Grand kids.!

My fear began the day Clarence Thomas was named to the court

It’s the level of corruption in the very institutions that are supposed to protect us. Republicans have been trying to destroy the federal government for decades, but Trump becoming president in 2016 has been pouring gasoline on a dumpster fire. The Federalist Society was quick to get him to appoint corrupt judges to the federal courts and to the SC. The right wing of the SC is totally corrupt and we are forced to live with that corruption until Thomas and Alito croak, at which point we can only hope we have a Democrat in the White House to appoint sane, honest justices..

judges from doing their jobs! WE have entered a whole new America. The Sc will get braver by the day, i fear.

If Trump is somehow installed as president in 2025, I do not think I can tolerate four years of seeing my country destroyed.

I will stay the fight. 77 soon i'll do what i can.

But at my age, no country will take me, even if I had the money to move (which I don't). I have no idea what those like me will do. Fight subversively, I guess.

It operates at the behest of the billionaires who grew it and the extreme ideology of the Subversive Six.

Angry, sad and scared. An attorney-at-law argued before the highest US court that a President could have a rival assassinated with full immunity. No one stood up and said anything. All I heard were people parsing word definitions and flatly refusing to even discuss Trump.

We have three justices who committed perjury on TV without any consequences. We have 2 justices who have driven a Hummer thru ethics laws.

We listened to a hearing where 5 men discussed fetal life and no one even mentioned a pregnant woman. I’ve always said if you don’t have a uterus you don’t get a say. I am sick to death of people shoving their religious beliefs down my throat.

Now we hear the orange anus wants to be co-chair of the Federal Reserve. What the ever loving hell!

I believe good always wins in the end. Now I’m not so sure.

Rant over - peace out. 🌹

America is under attack from WITHIN. Our forefathers are watching. Can we STOP these traitors? I don't know.

and wishing it was otherwise.

Damn.

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... and living in a simmering white-hot rage over ALL the obscene treachery and lies of all things KKKonservative, but ESPECIALLY the slime that have perverted the SCOTUS. Alito is a moron, and the rest of the Sinister Six are no better. There has to be a reckoning.

... approving a justice was changed from 60 senators to 51. It's too easy for a single party to approve.

I get what you're saying, but the reality is that even if the trial had not been delayed by the Supreme Court appeal, and was completed before election day, and assuming Trump was convicted, his inevitable appeal of the conviction to both the court of appeals and the Supreme Court would not have been decided before the election and it is all but certain that he would be allowed free during the appeals process.

So what has been lost by the Supreme Court delay? The possibility -- but by no means the certainty -- that he would be convicted in the Jan 6 case before November. What is gained? He has to stand trial during the campaign and there is no risk that he will be acquitted before election day, which would be an absolute disaster.

In other words, where we've ended up due to the delay in the trial is really not the end of the world. It might even be a good thing.

Thanks, onenote. I just needed to hear a little positivity. 👏💕

Why do i feel this way? Let me ask you this. What would you do or say if Tomorrow this SC decided to stop abortions across our country? Just answer this one question. What could be done?

I mean, if we're going to postulate extreme examples, let's postulate all kinds of extreme examples.
Nothing could be done about any rulings made by the Supreme Court throughout its history.

Rule to OUTLAW abortions!! YOU can take that to the bank. I have o doubt about that.

You're assuming this particular Supreme Court will do things it hasn't yet done because it can do whatever it wants. Well, that's true for some future Supreme Court as well as for all the Supreme Courts in the past -- see, for example, the Dred Scott decision. Or the Korematsu decision.

That's like saying the Russian people can control Putin. IT just will NEVER be the same/ NEVER. Edit to add, Your a lawyer and sees things through a different glass that i do, i'll give you that. BUT ALL the laws on the books will not stop these traitors. Especially if OUR back bone (Supreme court) is involved.

Now there will be no possibility of a conviction before the election. Yes, he would appeal that conviction, but it would be after a jury trial said he was guilty (assuming that would be the result). There’s quite a difference between appealing a guilty verdict and stalling to prevent a trial in the first place.

For example, a poll I just saw indicates that far more people think Trump's presidency was a success than think Joe's presidency has been a success. Should we give up hope?

Also, you seem to be assuming a conviction is a given and not considering the disaster that an acquittal would represent. I prefer not to put all my eggs in that basket.

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And along with his questions/rants in the Idaho case-- which made clear that he knows and cares NOTHING about women's health-- I think that if it were up to him, he'd decide:

There is absolute presidential immunity, but only for Trump. Not for any other president, including the current one. And the immunity for Trump is eternal, and covers everything he's ever done.
Oh, and women who get pregnant should be put in a cell for nine months and given no healthcare at all no matter what. And if the fetus dies, the woman should be prosecuted for murder.
(I'm only half-exaggerating there.)

The fix has been in since before the charges were filed. It is a kangaroo court.

Republicans have carried out a silent coup. What scares me is that they're running around and acting with impunity as if we don't have an election coming up. Why are they so confident?

But i guess most can think as i do. I won't go there.