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TeamPooka

(24,232 posts)
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 09:07 PM Nov 2012

screw the dead woman our organization is named for, the kid's don't know who she is.....

"A Madison-based cancer support group named after legendary Saturday Night Live player Gilda Radner has announced that it will be changing its name to accommodate younger patients unfamiliar with the iconic comic, who passed away of ovarian cancer in 1989.

Gilda's Club — so named for Radner's famous remark likening cancer to membership in "an elite club I'd rather not belong to" — boasts some two dozen affiliates across the country.

But, in a tragic sign of the times, at least four, including Gilda's Club Madison, have recently undergone a name change due to Radner's lack of name recognition among potential new members.

"One of the realizations we had this year is that our college students were born after Gilda Radner passed, as we are seeing younger and younger adults who are dealing with a cancer diagnosis," executive director Lannia Syren Stenz told the Wisconsin State Journal. "We want to make sure that what we are is clear to them and that there's not a lot of confusion that would cause people not to come in our doors.""

http://gawker.com/5963758/cancer-support-group-named-after-gilda-radner-changing-its-name-because-young-patients-dont-know-who-gilda-radner-is?utm_campaign=socialflow_gawker_twitter&utm_source=gawker_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

This makes me sick.
It's an insult to Gilda, her family and her memory.
Just treat her as a disposable "brand name".
This is just wrong.

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screw the dead woman our organization is named for, the kid's don't know who she is..... (Original Post) TeamPooka Nov 2012 OP
Bieber's Club Enrique Nov 2012 #1
Meet Gilda Radner kids... TeamPooka Nov 2012 #2
Thank you for these! liberalhistorian Nov 2012 #6
those are fantastic liberal_at_heart Nov 2012 #41
And yet, there's the Susan Komen Breast Cancer Foundation. TwilightGardener Nov 2012 #3
money changes everything. and the support of the power elite, of course. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #22
+1000. nt DeschutesRiver Nov 2012 #40
so why don't they tell them who she was ? JI7 Nov 2012 #4
I don't think it's an insult to Gilda at all fishwax Nov 2012 #5
it's an admission they need better marketing people TeamPooka Nov 2012 #7
This name change has been going on for about three years now -- while the fishwax Nov 2012 #14
wellness community sounds like a website TeamPooka Nov 2012 #17
it predates the web--and it's what helped Gilda deal w/ her own diagnosis and inspired Gilda's Club fishwax Nov 2012 #23
That's what I thought, too deutsey Nov 2012 #47
Nevermind. bluedigger Nov 2012 #8
Asinine. xfundy Nov 2012 #9
they may not have yet, but the restructuring plans looks like they're going to. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #24
I wonder what Gene thinks about all of this. Panasonic Nov 2012 #10
He's still listed as an honorary board member, along with the other founders fishwax Nov 2012 #25
Cancer Support Community Southwest Wisconsin x2 vancouverite Nov 2012 #11
That title is too cold and clinical liberal_at_heart Nov 2012 #39
One correction: Gilda's Club is not just for women. Jim Lane Nov 2012 #44
What a fucky thing to do to her surviving spouse! Didn't he start a foundation also? lonestarnot Nov 2012 #12
Simple enough ... EDUCATE them on who she is, DUH! nt Raine Nov 2012 #13
+1. Yeah...duh! The answer is obvious. nt Honeycombe8 Nov 2012 #15
Yeah, and let's rename Washington DC "Kanye West". Gotta move with the times (nt) Nye Bevan Nov 2012 #16
amd March of Dimes...who f**king uses a dime anymore? TeamPooka Nov 2012 #18
I still use dimes...... Miss Marmelstein Nov 2012 #46
Meet Generation Twitter: History is the Last 140 Characters. WinkyDink Nov 2012 #19
Wow. It's been 23 years since she passed away. madinmaryland Nov 2012 #20
that's capitalism,. baby! HiPointDem Nov 2012 #21
It is? Warren DeMontague Nov 2012 #27
and, if I'm not mistaken, all of their services are free to all fishwax Nov 2012 #32
i doubt you're that confused. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #33
Agree 100%. Very sad. nt. OldDem2012 Nov 2012 #26
Do you really think Gilda would care more about her billing than about fighting cancer? (nt) Recursion Nov 2012 #28
I want both because changing because the kids don't know her is a stupid reason TeamPooka Nov 2012 #37
Her name was used because "the kids" knew her 30 years ago. Was that stupid? Recursion Nov 2012 #45
I'm sorry, but that is simply wrong. Stinky The Clown Nov 2012 #29
Washington has been dead for a long time. Let's rename the capital Spongebob so the kids get it. Squinch Nov 2012 #30
thank you! TeamPooka Nov 2012 #35
Bingo! deutsey Nov 2012 #48
I think Gilda Radner is the funniest woman that ever lived. n/t lumberjack_jeff Nov 2012 #31
How is young people not hearing of Gilda Radner "a tragic sign of the times"? Matariki Nov 2012 #34
young people not knowing who she is one could expect but the "tragic" part is that no one can Raine Nov 2012 #43
One way or the other, I will always remember Gilda. nm rhett o rick Nov 2012 #36
"Well, Jane, it just goes to show you, it's always something--if it ain't one thing, it's another." pinboy3niner Nov 2012 #38
Lannia, you ignorant slut. (Google it, kids.) Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2012 #42
Kids don't know shit anymore ... Myrina Nov 2012 #49

liberalhistorian

(20,818 posts)
6. Thank you for these!
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 09:25 PM
Nov 2012

I was always a fan and I remember just where I was when I heard she'd died. I was in college working at the college town's podunk newspaper on a Saturday morning, when the news came over the wire. She has SOO many good routines, I could watch her for hours. We lost such a huge talent and a wonderful human being who had so much more left to give. It's truly sad that the club managers are giving her and her family such a slap in the face insult.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
3. And yet, there's the Susan Komen Breast Cancer Foundation.
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 09:16 PM
Nov 2012

So somebody who wasn't famous at all can be the namesake for a cancer foundation, but not somebody who isn't quite famous enough anymore...because she died...

fishwax

(29,149 posts)
5. I don't think it's an insult to Gilda at all
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 09:21 PM
Nov 2012

I think Gilda would be more interested in the group reaching more people than in having the group bear her name. I can't speak for her, of course, but as I understand it she wanted everyone to have access to the kind of support she found at the Wellness Community. Now, the organization of Gilda's Club affiliates has grown, and they've actually merged with Wellness Community. That's what prompted the new name, although various affiliates are phasing it in, rather than all changing at once.

fishwax

(29,149 posts)
14. This name change has been going on for about three years now -- while the
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 09:42 PM
Nov 2012

director of the Madison center mentioned the issue of name recognition in conjunction with the name change, the fact is that, as the original article that the OP article references mentioned, the name change is being phased in at the national level. Other affiliates have switched over in the year or two or three before now.

The name change came about because of the organization's merger with Wellness Community, which allows Gilda's Club to extend it's mission even further and reach more people. And that, to me, is the real tribute to the great Gilda Radner. Many people will find support and comfort because of the organization built by the people who cared about her and by the people who came to care about the organization. That's quite a legacy, and far more of a testament to her, by my reckoning, than the name.

fishwax

(29,149 posts)
23. it predates the web--and it's what helped Gilda deal w/ her own diagnosis and inspired Gilda's Club
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 10:03 PM
Nov 2012

xfundy

(5,105 posts)
9. Asinine.
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 09:29 PM
Nov 2012

The group was started in Gilda's memory, no doubt funded by her family, friends and fans.

The "branding" craze is everywhere. Even the repigs talked openly about their "brand," which is now shit.

Educate those who were born after Gilda died. It's not that hard, and as far as I know, no one's tried to make money off the "brand" as the Komen grifters have done.

Everything became political in the last few years. Enough! Dammit, this is about life vs death, not trying to score points off dead women's legacies to promote some asshole who wants to get into office to steal more from those who can least afford it.

fishwax

(29,149 posts)
25. He's still listed as an honorary board member, along with the other founders
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 10:10 PM
Nov 2012

of Gilda's Club (such as Mandy Patinkin): http://www.cancersupportcommunity.org/MainMenu/About-CSC/Board-Staff/Honorary-Board.html

Joanna Bull is the therapist who started the first Gilda's Club at Gene's (and a few others') behest. I could be wrong, but I believe she is still involved with the national organization and was involved in the merger with Wellness Community, which is the center where Gilda found comfort during her illness. It's what inspired Gene to want to start Gilda's Club. The two organizations both grew over the years, and then merged in 2009. That's when the organization took the new name, but local affiliates have adopted the new name at a slower pace.

 

x2 vancouverite

(89 posts)
11. Cancer Support Community Southwest Wisconsin
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 09:33 PM
Nov 2012

Well, it is more direct. And the goal is helping people with cancer. I don't think Gilda minds at all.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
39. That title is too cold and clinical
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 02:22 AM
Nov 2012

The whole point of a local chapter of a cancer support group is to be personal and intimate. Teach the young women who Gilda was. It adds a personal background to why these young women are able to gather for support in the first place. My mother had breast cancer back when there were no support groups. Back when survival rates were not that great(she died at 32), and back when the patient had little say in their treatment. The doctor knew best and you didn't need to know why. We cannot forget the women who came before us who fought for respect from the doctors, for the right to talk openly about a subject that was too taboo to speak of in public, and fought for their lives. Don't forget the ones who fought the fight before we did. That really would be a tragedy.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
44. One correction: Gilda's Club is not just for women.
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 08:26 AM
Nov 2012

You write, "Teach the young women who Gilda was. It adds a personal background to why these young women are able to gather for support in the first place."

This might lead some to think that the organization is only for women, or only for people with ovarian cancer or breast cancer, or some such. In fact, Gilda's Club is open to all cancer patients and their families.

Teach the young women and the young men who Gilda was!

 

lonestarnot

(77,097 posts)
12. What a fucky thing to do to her surviving spouse! Didn't he start a foundation also?
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 09:34 PM
Nov 2012

Gilda wouldn't care. "ya know it's always somethin"

Miss Marmelstein

(684 posts)
46. I still use dimes......
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:37 AM
Nov 2012

Today I couldn't get the screw thingy out of the whatchamacallit .....and I knew exactly what I needed...I finally found a dime!

Worked great!

madinmaryland

(64,933 posts)
20. Wow. It's been 23 years since she passed away.
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 09:58 PM
Nov 2012

My son was born a year later, and I'm sure he has no clue who Gilda Radner is. My daughter is 15 and she doesn't either.

Thank God for us old folks who remember her from the early days of SNL.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
45. Her name was used because "the kids" knew her 30 years ago. Was that stupid?
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:26 AM
Nov 2012

You can't stop the clock...

Raine

(30,540 posts)
43. young people not knowing who she is one could expect but the "tragic" part is that no one can
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:32 AM
Nov 2012

just go print up some info on her to have handy but instead would rather just rename the charity. This is the information age but why bother informing people of something they don't know, just change it.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
38. "Well, Jane, it just goes to show you, it's always something--if it ain't one thing, it's another."
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 01:45 AM
Nov 2012
--Roseanne Roseannadanna




R.I.P., Gilda.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
49. Kids don't know shit anymore ...
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:50 AM
Nov 2012

... Thanks to "No Child Left (Behind)" ... teaching to the test, not teaching information or critical thinking/ research skills & feeding kids Adderal and PS3 instead of spending time with them ... it makes me sick to see dumb-as-fuck 18 year olds spouting Bullshit Bullet Points as their life philosophies when spending an hour in a real library rather than playing Mortal Combat would open their eyes by leaps and bounds.

Don't get me started ...

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