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Last edited Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:28 AM - Edit history (1)
Was reading two separate threads on DU -- and thought they belonged side by side.
Posted by Bozita in DU's Environment and energy:
As Great Lakes levels plummet, towns try to save harbors
November 27, 2012
As Great Lakes levels plummet, towns try to save harbors
By John Flesher - AP Environmental Writer
Onekama, Mich. For more than a century, easy access to Lake Michigan has made Onekama a popular place for summer visitors and a refuge for boaters fleeing dangerous storms. Now the community itself needs a rescue, from slumping lake levels that threaten its precious link to open water.
The Great Lakes, the world's biggest freshwater system, are shrinking because of drought and rising temperatures, a trend that accelerated with this year's almost snowless winter and scorching summer. http://www.democraticunderground.com/112729447
and then this, posted by xchrom in the same DU Environment and Energy forum:
Obama Urged to Declare Emergency for Mississippi River
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-11-28/obama-urged-to-declare-emergency-for-mississippi-river.html
Shippers and lawmakers are pressuring President Barack Obama to declare a federal emergency along the Mississippi River, citing potential catastrophic consequences in the Midwest if barge traffic is curtailed by low water on the nations busiest waterway.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/112729467
NB - Photo updated to comply with reality
An aerial photo of the Mississippi river shows sandy areas where water had been before the drought. The river's levels are now nearing record lows.
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/07/19/drought-sends-mighty-mississippi-river-levels-near-record-lows/
Berlum
(7,044 posts)"This is not happening. Smirk. This is, um, just more latte-drinking liberal spew. Smirk. Why I'll have you know that I am just as comfortable as can be in my palatial 1% Republican Palace. So there you have it. Pay no attention to this Grim Reality Climate Change News. Just keep listening to me (smirk) and watching Fox (R), and keep on voting Republican (1%) and this will all go away. Trust me." - Rush 'Draft-Dodger' Limpaugh (R - Propagandist, inc.)
Kolesar
(31,182 posts)A control structure at the outlet to Lake Huron could restore the levels, but it is controversial. The lake level would then be a political issue.
Berlum
(7,044 posts)MineralMan
(146,318 posts)What does that have to do with the Great Lakes and the Mississippi River, I wonder?
A HERETIC I AM
(24,371 posts)MineralMan
(146,318 posts)And then, that photo is pretty famous, really. I lived in California for most of my life.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)I remember on the old Northern Exposure when they'd show Grosse Pointe (when Maggie would visit her parents) and they had mountains. Uhm, no, that isn't Michigan. ROFL.
There are some smaller mountains in northern Michigan, but not like those.
Berlum
(7,044 posts)Here's a current, local pic as you wish...easy to produce a boatload more...
In this Nov. 16, 2012 photo, a stranded pontoon boat is docked at the eastern end of Portage Lake in the village of Onekama, Mich. Unusually low water levels on the Great Lakes are causing problems for boaters in small harbor towns such as Onekama, which is linked to Lake Michigan by a man-made channel.
As Great Lakes plummet, towns try to save harbors November 27, 2012
http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display/web/2012/11/27/environment/great-lakes-plummet-harbor-towns/
MineralMan
(146,318 posts)you were talking about. I live on the Mississippi river, and have seen the low levels. I'm near a lake that is drying up. There are plenty of dramatic photos that can be used. If you use photos that are not anywhere near the subject of your discussion, you lose an opportunity.
The Salton Sea has nothing to do with what you are talking about.
Berlum
(7,044 posts)But I will replace the photo of that environmental travesty, with a current photo of the Environmental Travesty du Jour.
Yours for reality (most of the time), B.
MineralMan
(146,318 posts)It's a below-sea-level salt lake. Its level has been fluctuating for a very, very long time.
Berlum
(7,044 posts)Lake been gulping Ag Chem Runoff up the wazoo...
http://isun.blogs.mydesert.com/2012/11/01/federal-lawmakers-dont-put-money-where-the-salton-sea-is/
The sea, Californias largest lake, is slowly dying as its salinity increases. Its shrinking shores are expected to be increasingly exposed
hunter
(38,321 posts)If it gets dry enough it's possible the lakes *could* become closed basins.
That would be unpleasant.
So long as the U.S. economy remains capable, I think the construction of major control structures to regulate lake levels is inevitable.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)I live in Michigan and can see this, and a family member who also lives here is among the deniers!
It is finally getting really cold here where my kids need hats and gloves at recess, and it's the end of November. We usually start getting cold days like this by Halloween. And it isn't just this year - it's been the past several years. Things are definitely changing. But when we FINALLY start having some snow, the climate change deniers will be on Facebook saying, "Yeah and we have global warming. LOL." As if we wouldn't get cold in winter in Michigan regardless of whether there is some global warming. They won't believe it until it's warm in January and the lakes are gone.
Berlum
(7,044 posts)DES MOINES, IOWA Scientists are saying that due to climate change caused by greenhouse gases, Iowans should brace themselves for more bad weather like the 2012 drought.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57552058/iowa-scientists-climate-change-caused-the-drought/