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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:20 AM Nov 2012

Republicans Swept Southern Statehouses, and No One Noticed

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/11/republicans-swept-southern-statehouses-and-no-one-noticed/265588/

In the two weeks since the election, the general consensus has been that Republicans got hammered. From Mitt Romney's Election Day collapse to the party's failure to take back the Senate and prevent ballot initiatives legalizing same-sex marriage, Republicans took big hits up and down the ballot.

But the results actually weren't all bad for the GOP. AP reporter David Lieb points out that the Republican supermajorities swept statehouses across the South and Great Plains states, ushering in powerful one-party governments that are likely to make major tax cuts, slash spending to public education and social programs, and resist the implementation of President Obama's health-care reform legislation at every turn.

According to Lieb, Republicans gained or expanded their supermajorities in North Carolina, Tennessee, Missouri, Indiana, Oklahoma, Kansas, and Georgia. (To be fair, blue states also went bluer too, with Democrats dominating the statehouse races in California, Illinois, Rhode Island, and Massachusetts.)

Although largely unnoticed on a national scale, these partisan waves could have significant implications for the residents in those states, allowing both parties to push through extreme partisan agendas with little opposition from the other side.
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Republicans Swept Southern Statehouses, and No One Noticed (Original Post) xchrom Nov 2012 OP
No surprise there. leftlibdem420 Nov 2012 #1
In my state teabaggers have pretty much taken over the entire state government. And RKP5637 Nov 2012 #2
Red states are getting poorer because lots of young people are leaving those states bluestate10 Nov 2012 #16
I'm embarrassed when traveling to even mention the state I live in, some just RKP5637 Nov 2012 #17
In PA, republicans control the state house and state senate; we have a teabagger governor and AlinPA Nov 2012 #3
Anyone can win when they rewrite the maps. leftlibdem420 Nov 2012 #5
Yep. Obama winning PA proves your point. AlinPA Nov 2012 #12
Irrelevant. leftlibdem420 Nov 2012 #18
Republicans lost their supermajority in Texas. sadbear Nov 2012 #4
largely unnoticed because it was a given where those red states would go still_one Nov 2012 #6
Hatred by the good Christians no surprise.... dmosh42 Nov 2012 #7
I noticed. Gerrymandered voters always do. mmonk Nov 2012 #8
Trust me, we in North Carolina noticed. WorseBeforeBetter Nov 2012 #9
North Carolinians will likely vote blue after a dose of the clowns that will take over in January. bluestate10 Nov 2012 #14
If memory serves, you were pretty certain that... WorseBeforeBetter Nov 2012 #25
I noticed. ananda Nov 2012 #10
Well in WI EC Nov 2012 #11
Dems won most statewide races in MO while Repukes increased in the legis pstokely Nov 2012 #20
Gerrymandering had nothing to do with Walker being re-elected. old guy Nov 2012 #27
Yeah EC Nov 2012 #28
You're probably right about the Senate, old guy Nov 2012 #29
So? Republicans in Florida and Texas are weaker. The pattern is that more diverse states bluestate10 Nov 2012 #13
One party rule in the south, favoring neglectful governance and lowering education standards? Bucky Nov 2012 #15
Good, let them experiment locally, no need for their disastrous policies to go National. JaneyVee Nov 2012 #19
Which state are you in? They've subjected most of the nation to these disastrous policies Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #24
It happened in Alaska, too. Blue_In_AK Nov 2012 #21
kr. that will be important as states/regions deal with government bankruptcies, pension HiPointDem Nov 2012 #22
Yes they did. One of the reasons for fixating the sheeple on the Presidency. Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #23
Hmmmmm serbbral Nov 2012 #26
 

leftlibdem420

(256 posts)
1. No surprise there.
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:28 AM
Nov 2012

Coal miners are voting Republican because they disagree with the Obama Administration on energy, while racist teabaggers have finally figured out that Lincoln died a century and a half ago.

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
2. In my state teabaggers have pretty much taken over the entire state government. And
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:33 AM
Nov 2012

extreme wealth is embedded into the government and has bought the state. RW agendas will move through the state with really no opposition. Moderate republicans and democrats are a rare breed.

And the message is if you don't like it then get the F out of the state if you don't want extreme wealth and religion running the state. Okay, we will.

And good luck on attracting all of the people they think are going to flock into the state for employment.

Just gazing at my crystal ball, I think we will see demographic shifts where some people migrate toward more bluer and progressive states and the red states become even more red. Just my thoughts.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
16. Red states are getting poorer because lots of young people are leaving those states
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 07:46 PM
Nov 2012

as those states become more conservative. I am a bit startled by the number of southern accents I hear in my deep blue state. When I question those southern speakers, I discover they have moved to my state and have no intention of leaving. Those southern people don't want to talk about their home states.

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
17. I'm embarrassed when traveling to even mention the state I live in, some just
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 08:16 PM
Nov 2012

politely snicker. That's what gets me here, they think the RW rhetoric is going to cause people to flock to the state, often we're the joke of the nation because of the foolish politicians elected. The one part of the state that is progressive, sort of but not really, the teabaggers think is not red enough. I see what's coming down the road, so do others, and we're continuing to move away.



AlinPA

(15,071 posts)
3. In PA, republicans control the state house and state senate; we have a teabagger governor and
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:39 AM
Nov 2012

teabagger US senator. Thirteen of the 18 US house seats are republican.

 

leftlibdem420

(256 posts)
5. Anyone can win when they rewrite the maps.
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:49 AM
Nov 2012

I could piece together random parts of Massachusetts that would elect Jesse Helms over Deval Patrick. Doesn't mean that it accurately reflects the state's views.

 

leftlibdem420

(256 posts)
18. Irrelevant.
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:16 PM
Nov 2012

You can't gerrymander a statewide race. You can only gerrymander districts within a state.

sadbear

(4,340 posts)
4. Republicans lost their supermajority in Texas.
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:41 AM
Nov 2012

Although the republicans still dominate the state, Democrats have a little power here now.

dmosh42

(2,217 posts)
7. Hatred by the good Christians no surprise....
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:04 AM
Nov 2012

and I'm in NC where education is not a priority. Now with the super majority, we'll be in a race with Miss. for the bottom. Simce I'm a retiree it's a plus, and the people have no pride, so go for it!

WorseBeforeBetter

(11,441 posts)
9. Trust me, we in North Carolina noticed.
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:22 AM
Nov 2012

Voter IDs, fracking, reduced unemployment benefits and other goodies coming soon!

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
14. North Carolinians will likely vote blue after a dose of the clowns that will take over in January.
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 07:39 PM
Nov 2012

North Carolina is not Alabama or Mississippi.

WorseBeforeBetter

(11,441 posts)
25. If memory serves, you were pretty certain that...
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 02:22 PM
Nov 2012

NC was trending blue and that 2012 was in the bag for Obama. I said it wasn't. It didn't.

Between anti-tax zealots, Art Pope, ALEC, Citizens United, gerrymandering, fracking, voter IDs, high unemployment, etc., things are not looking good for this state. And my spidey-sense tells me that many of the seniors pouring in are voting Republican, and things will only get worse.

The 61% to 39% vote to amend our Constitution to ban "gay marriage" -- even though it's already illegal per state law -- shows how ugly this state can be on some issues. That vote was Deep South bullshit.

Time will tell. But the damage being done during that time sickens me. Hopefully 2014 will be brighter.

ananda

(28,868 posts)
10. I noticed.
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:25 AM
Nov 2012

Big time.

Dan Patrick is already starting to do serious damage here
in the very successful war on poor women.

EC

(12,287 posts)
11. Well in WI
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:48 AM
Nov 2012

it was gerrymandering. I'm guessing in these other states it was too. Other than the fact that all the states listed ARE red states to begin with.

pstokely

(10,529 posts)
20. Dems won most statewide races in MO while Repukes increased in the legis
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 02:06 AM
Nov 2012

Dems don't state local elections as seriously

old guy

(3,283 posts)
27. Gerrymandering had nothing to do with Walker being re-elected.
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 03:16 PM
Nov 2012

We gained the Senate and then gave it right back this Nov. The voters have spoken and I hope they like what they are going to get. I have given up.

EC

(12,287 posts)
28. Yeah
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 04:47 PM
Nov 2012

about the Walker recall fail...that was stupid Dems that thought he should have the right to serve out his term and didn't believe in recalls...I knew a few and could not change their minds. But the Senate loss is due to the new districts.

old guy

(3,283 posts)
29. You're probably right about the Senate,
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 09:02 PM
Nov 2012

but I don't know when or if I'll re-engage totally in the process.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
13. So? Republicans in Florida and Texas are weaker. The pattern is that more diverse states
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 07:37 PM
Nov 2012

are rejecting republican leadership. Expect the midwest to start turning back bluer as it becomes more diverse. Michigan will be blue again, Michigan only went red because of the economy there and Granholm appearing unable to stem the slide, although she did every thing she could.

Bucky

(54,027 posts)
15. One party rule in the south, favoring neglectful governance and lowering education standards?
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 07:40 PM
Nov 2012

Really?

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
24. Which state are you in? They've subjected most of the nation to these disastrous policies
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 05:49 AM
Nov 2012

for more than a couple of decades now. Some states have been under this maladministration for a century of longer and it doesn't matter which party was in control.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
21. It happened in Alaska, too.
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 02:09 AM
Nov 2012

Very successful gerrymandering that is before the court but wasn't resolved in time for this election. Hopefully things will be resolved in our favor by 2014.

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
22. kr. that will be important as states/regions deal with government bankruptcies, pension
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 02:10 AM
Nov 2012

failures, etc.

bad moon rising.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
23. Yes they did. One of the reasons for fixating the sheeple on the Presidency.
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 05:45 AM
Nov 2012

We follow the Presidential horse race with a fervor usually reserved for sporting events while the real political power is apportioned with nary a bleat.

Funny how that works.

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