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Gennifer Flowers: Bill Clinton contacted me as early as 2005 and said can I come over to see you (Original Post) bigdarryl Nov 2012 OP
desperate bigtree Nov 2012 #1
He should have been better at weeding out the bunny-boilers. lightcameron Nov 2012 #69
He may be a man of the people, slackmaster Nov 2012 #2
Here we go unreadierLizard Nov 2012 #3
Please explain why you feel my statement is sexist slackmaster Nov 2012 #14
It's hard not to unreadierLizard Nov 2012 #18
It's a fact that a lot of men can't control it slackmaster Nov 2012 #25
Wrong AlexSatan Nov 2012 #47
Yeah right. And the women are the victims. Callmecrazy Nov 2012 #54
In anthropology, we're taught that research says that in every society studied - over 1000 - males byeya Nov 2012 #23
Fine, then. unreadierLizard Nov 2012 #28
Nobody is saying that all men are accountable for the pecadillos of some men slackmaster Nov 2012 #31
It's called human behavior, and it's only partly under conscious control and societal restraint slackmaster Nov 2012 #29
Oh, that totally excuses it! lapislzi Nov 2012 #45
Like a 747... cherokeeprogressive Nov 2012 #21
And that's just as sexist LynneSin Nov 2012 #17
It's interesting that you would say that. There are some on this forum who base their choice... slackmaster Nov 2012 #34
And what has Clinton done in the last 15 years to live up to that reputation LynneSin Nov 2012 #40
You seem very determined to defend him from something that really isn't a big deal slackmaster Nov 2012 #42
suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure he did. And *that's* why she came out in 2006 with proof. LaydeeBug Nov 2012 #4
apparently an aging 'cabaret singer' needs a career boost... BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #5
as Bing Crosby said in White Christmas "Everybody has a angle" what's this writers? graham4anything Nov 2012 #6
That poor woman looks like Victoria Jacksons twin! No wonder she has to make up.... Walk away Nov 2012 #7
It's none of our business. haikugal Nov 2012 #8
Has she been trying to do the same transformation snooper2 Nov 2012 #9
Ms Flowers looks good for her age in my opinion bigdarryl Nov 2012 #12
Ms.Flowers whiped that thing on big bog and got him crazy over her LOL LOL!!! bigdarryl Nov 2012 #10
So we just assume Bill is guilty? LynneSin Nov 2012 #11
Guilty of what? He hasn't been charged with any wrongdoing. slackmaster Nov 2012 #15
No but we're already assuming what she is saying is the truth LynneSin Nov 2012 #20
Frankly I don't know or care whether she's telling the truth slackmaster Nov 2012 #35
100% agreed. Sheldon Cooper Nov 2012 #52
Hit the showers everyone libodem Nov 2012 #13
she has made a lot of allegations that just did not pan out. Tutonic Nov 2012 #16
Like what didn't pan out the she screwed him bigdarryl Nov 2012 #19
Really? Come on; the man had an affair with her; let's not be prissy ostriches. WinkyDink Nov 2012 #74
The only real story is very likely the last line. karynnj Nov 2012 #22
And Flowers knows the ONLY way the press would bother with her is if she says 'Clinton' LynneSin Nov 2012 #26
Ding! Winner! n/t LadyHawkAZ Nov 2012 #73
"... The lounge singer also said she spoke with the then-Democratic presidential candidate in 1992 struggle4progress Nov 2012 #24
My money is it was a Clinton impersonator LynneSin Nov 2012 #27
That's really quite plausible, but "Some wiseacre Clinton impersonator called me up seven years ago struggle4progress Nov 2012 #36
Yeah, and pigs fly Gennifer, you attention seeking so and so... joeybee12 Nov 2012 #30
Oh, good grief. Here we go again. Sorry, Gennifer, but your credibility is non-existent. Arkansas Granny Nov 2012 #32
I don't believe her. WI_DEM Nov 2012 #33
Who cares anyway? Really. NYC Liberal Nov 2012 #37
Is she sure it wasn't Rush Limbaugh calling her? jsr Nov 2012 #38
New York Daily News - muckraker of the worst kind. Why is this posted to DU? nt. OldDem2012 Nov 2012 #39
No; that would be Murdoch's NY Post. WinkyDink Nov 2012 #75
I wouldn't believe Ms. Flowers if her tongue came noterized dsc Nov 2012 #41
and the world yawns at the news.... madrchsod Nov 2012 #43
Your concern is noted. Gold Metal Flake Nov 2012 #44
He asked to come over to talk. Nye Bevan Nov 2012 #46
OH PLEASE!!! big dig wanted to get her in the sack again and you know it bigdarryl Nov 2012 #48
My ex-wife and I get together just to talk fairly often. ieoeja Nov 2012 #49
GF is not exactly an EX-WIFE!! WinkyDink Nov 2012 #76
You seem to have accepted her story hook, line, and sinker, Sheldon Cooper Nov 2012 #51
attention whore , 2005 was around the time Clinton had his Heart Troubles JI7 Nov 2012 #50
She's pimping her new reality show. nt kelliekat44 Nov 2012 #53
It's pretty sexist to call her an attention whore Bucky Nov 2012 #66
I really could care less what Bill Clinton does with his spare time. Jennicut Nov 2012 #55
Its none of my business quinnox Nov 2012 #56
I am just going to go ahead and assume she is lying Godhumor Nov 2012 #57
None o' mah biz. Iggo Nov 2012 #58
Not my marriage, not my business Marrah_G Nov 2012 #59
I didn't care in 1992, I didn't care in 1998, I wouldn't have cared in 2005 and I don't care now. bluestateguy Nov 2012 #60
same here nt Lex Nov 2012 #63
This is Flamebait. FarPoint Nov 2012 #61
+1 Lex Nov 2012 #65
Well, they DO call him the Comeback Kid. Bucky Nov 2012 #62
You must have missed the SWORN TESTIMONY, then, when Bill admitted to it: WinkyDink Nov 2012 #78
And not a single fuck was given about it. DFab420 Nov 2012 #64
Don't care what he does, he's not an elected official anymore. TwilightGardener Nov 2012 #67
bwahahahahaaa spanone Nov 2012 #68
Gennifer should just stfu LiberalFighter Nov 2012 #70
Trash. silverweb Nov 2012 #71
Shut up Gennifer, no one cares! nt Raine Nov 2012 #72
and why would I believe my daily bs? still_one Nov 2012 #77
I'll never understand women who BEG to be seen in this light. STHU! WinkyDink Nov 2012 #79
Who fucking cares? nobodyspecial Nov 2012 #80
Just Hillary, maybe. union_maid Nov 2012 #82
I do not believe her! hrmjustin Nov 2012 #81
I don't understand the open-mouthed disbelief in this thread. Nye Bevan Nov 2012 #83
Who really cares? Blue_In_AK Nov 2012 #84
WTF do you post shit like this and why do you care?????????? babylonsister Nov 2012 #85
 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
14. Please explain why you feel my statement is sexist
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:56 AM
Nov 2012

Men and women are not the same sex. Not only that, it was a quote from a famous movie directed by Stanley Kubrick.

 

unreadierLizard

(475 posts)
18. It's hard not to
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:59 AM
Nov 2012

"he may be a man of the people but he is also a man" makes it sound like "oh he's a male men can't control the urge to cheat or hump other women so we can't trust them".

 

AlexSatan

(535 posts)
47. Wrong
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 03:47 PM
Nov 2012

They choose not to control it.

Or do you contend that murderers, rapists, and pedophiles cannot control it.

Either we control our decisions and actions or don't. You can't have it both ways.



Callmecrazy

(3,065 posts)
54. Yeah right. And the women are the victims.
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 07:48 PM
Nov 2012

Ooh that terrible man talked me into having sex with him.

It's a two-way street. Stop placing the blame on one side of the equation.

 

byeya

(2,842 posts)
23. In anthropology, we're taught that research says that in every society studied - over 1000 - males
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 12:02 PM
Nov 2012

are always more sexually aggressive than females.
It's interesting to me that comparing societies, it's a fact that females in Society A(say) are more sexually agressive than males in Society B(say) but always males in the same society are more sexually aggressive than the females.
We should not overlook this fact and those in the field should not stop looking for an exception and should not stop analyzing their methodology and definitions to see if they've made an error, but for now, these seem to be the facts.

 

unreadierLizard

(475 posts)
28. Fine, then.
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 12:08 PM
Nov 2012

Since we're all(according to some on these boards) potential rapists, potential child molesters, child murderers, Republicans, sexists, racists, homophobes and sociopathic, what more do you want?

me go back to cave and hit fire?

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
29. It's called human behavior, and it's only partly under conscious control and societal restraint
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 12:09 PM
Nov 2012

It's complex and hard to understand why a lot of men do things that seem insanely stupid for sex. Even highly intelligent, educated, successful men.



lapislzi

(5,762 posts)
45. Oh, that totally excuses it!
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 02:07 PM
Nov 2012

It was from a MOVIE! Well, it must be all right, then.

Dumb thread, dumber responses.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
17. And that's just as sexist
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:59 AM
Nov 2012

Look, I'm a woman and I know the bullshit that women put up with from Men.

But I'm also smart enough to recognize that this can be a 2-way street. Unless she has actually hardcore proof I don't believe a word this woman is saying. IF he really was harassing her why did she wait 7 years to say anything about it?

And let's face it there are hundreds of people who can do Bill Clinton impersonations. For all we know someone got her number and played a joke on her.

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
34. It's interesting that you would say that. There are some on this forum who base their choice...
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 12:11 PM
Nov 2012

...of who to believe on gender. Yours must be based on something else, and it's probably not President Clinton's well-established reputation as a skirt chaser.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
40. And what has Clinton done in the last 15 years to live up to that reputation
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 12:25 PM
Nov 2012

It's like accusing me of being a cheater because I happened to cheat on a 2nd grade spelling test.

Flowers, however, tends to rear her head every couple of years and spews off about Clinton because it's the only way the press will write about her.

 

BlueMan Votes

(903 posts)
5. apparently an aging 'cabaret singer' needs a career boost...
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:50 AM
Nov 2012

gotta get that name back in the press. just like the good ol' days.


btw- nobody knows what 'agreements' a married couple may have regarding their sex lives.

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
6. as Bing Crosby said in White Christmas "Everybody has a angle" what's this writers?
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:50 AM
Nov 2012

this is obviously another Hate clinton article
obviously wanting to tear Bill down again

why put this crap here? Belongs on a freper sight and is a distraction

Didn't Bill go through enough crap?

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
7. That poor woman looks like Victoria Jacksons twin! No wonder she has to make up....
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:52 AM
Nov 2012

lies to get attention. Some thing never really change...they just get older and needier.

haikugal

(6,476 posts)
8. It's none of our business.
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:52 AM
Nov 2012

Slime...yuk. I don't give a damn what he does in his personal life. I'm sure he gets laid but I don't need to know about it. Geez

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
9. Has she been trying to do the same transformation
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:52 AM
Nov 2012

or is using the same plastic surgeon? looks like work about halfway complete





LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
11. So we just assume Bill is guilty?
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:55 AM
Nov 2012

This woman has been an attention whore since her name first came into spotlight.

My guess is all the royalties she was making from her association to Bill Clinton have dried up so she comes out to the NY Daily News (isn't that the paper owned by Rupert Murdoch?) and we assume she's telling us the truth.

My guess is that some Bill Clinton impersonator probably called her as a joke.

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
15. Guilty of what? He hasn't been charged with any wrongdoing.
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:56 AM
Nov 2012

There is nothing wrong with wanting to re-connect with an old friend.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
20. No but we're already assuming what she is saying is the truth
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 12:00 PM
Nov 2012

Flowers hasn't done alot to make me think she's a beacon of truth. SHe's played out her 15 minutes of fame about 20 years ago. That comment was nothing more than her attempts to rehash it.

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
35. Frankly I don't know or care whether she's telling the truth
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 12:13 PM
Nov 2012

This story is pure entertainment for me. Completely harmless. The only thing she could possibly hurt is her own reputation.

libodem

(19,288 posts)
13. Hit the showers everyone
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:55 AM
Nov 2012

I feel the need for a group scrub down. This is dirty. Yuck. I was gunna say good hosing, but that is not what I meant.

Tutonic

(2,522 posts)
16. she has made a lot of allegations that just did not pan out.
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:57 AM
Nov 2012

Poor thing, shes got that Paul Ryan thingy...lyin.

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
22. The only real story is very likely the last line.
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 12:01 PM
Nov 2012

"Flowers, meanwhile, said she's hoping to be back in the public eye with a planned reality show based on the "Real Housewives" franchise."

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/gennifer-flowers-helped-clinton-household-article-1.1208892#ixzz2DX9EPOsm

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
26. And Flowers knows the ONLY way the press would bother with her is if she says 'Clinton'
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 12:07 PM
Nov 2012

If she didn't use the magic word the press would continue to ignore her.

struggle4progress

(118,309 posts)
24. "... The lounge singer also said she spoke with the then-Democratic presidential candidate in 1992
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 12:04 PM
Nov 2012

about how he wanted 'name recognition.' She said she helped him become a 'household name overnight' ..."

Yep, twenty years later, that thar's a right compellin analysis of the 1992 campaign: Flowers helped make Clinton snag a household name!

'... The .. cabaret singer .. claims that the former President called her up in 2005 ... “I said, ‘No you can’t come over here,’” she continued. “He said, ‘I’ll put on a hoodie and I’ll jog up there’ ... ” ...'

Thanks for sharin, Gennifer: it shore do sounds to me like you is makin a desperate grab for attention, but I knows I has sometimes been wrong befores. Still, I cain't see much reason to give a rat's ass about an alleged phone call seven years ago

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
27. My money is it was a Clinton impersonator
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 12:08 PM
Nov 2012

I mean his voice is very commonly impersonated. Someone probably thought it would be a joke to make the call.

struggle4progress

(118,309 posts)
36. That's really quite plausible, but "Some wiseacre Clinton impersonator called me up seven years ago
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 12:13 PM
Nov 2012

and offered to jog over disguised in a hoodie to visit" could lack front-page newsworthiness

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
30. Yeah, and pigs fly Gennifer, you attention seeking so and so...
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 12:09 PM
Nov 2012

Can't use certain words here that would be totally appropriate for her.

NYC Liberal

(20,136 posts)
37. Who cares anyway? Really.
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 12:15 PM
Nov 2012

He's not president anymore, so it's even less of our business now (not that it ever was).

jsr

(7,712 posts)
38. Is she sure it wasn't Rush Limbaugh calling her?
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 12:17 PM
Nov 2012

He does a pretty decent job impersonating Bill Clinton.

dsc

(52,164 posts)
41. I wouldn't believe Ms. Flowers if her tongue came noterized
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 12:25 PM
Nov 2012

The last paragraph tells us all we need to know, she is planning a reality show based on the Housewives series. She wrote a book claiming a twelve year affair with not a single date. She provided a doctored tape. She later claimed he was a killer.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
46. He asked to come over to talk.
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 02:16 PM
Nov 2012

Has no DUer ever had a conversation with an old flame? Why do so many posters assume his intentions were sexual?

 

bigdarryl

(13,190 posts)
48. OH PLEASE!!! big dig wanted to get her in the sack again and you know it
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:00 PM
Nov 2012

if he wanted to talk he could have did that on the phone when he called her why come to her home and talk

 

ieoeja

(9,748 posts)
49. My ex-wife and I get together just to talk fairly often.
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:11 PM
Nov 2012

Albeit, her 16 year old son now lives with me. And we have a joint investment. But even before either of those we got together fairly often for conversation.

I have an aunt who has done the same with her ex. I see none of the reaction in her I would expect to see if they were doing anything more than talking.

JI7

(89,254 posts)
50. attention whore , 2005 was around the time Clinton had his Heart Troubles
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 07:37 PM
Nov 2012

it happened in 2004 so he was dealing with recovery around then.

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
55. I really could care less what Bill Clinton does with his spare time.
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 07:52 PM
Nov 2012

I am more offended by the fact that Gennifer Flowers spells her name with a G. As a Jennifer myself, I never understood the "G" used for Jennifer. Did her parents do that to her?

Bucky

(54,027 posts)
62. Well, they DO call him the Comeback Kid.
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 08:37 PM
Nov 2012
But frankly, I'm not seeing it here.

A dear friend from Arkansas once told me, "Bucky, there's maybe only two women in Arkansas Bill Clinton did not sleep with: his mama and Gennifer Flowers." Somewhere back in his doggin' days, the Bubba must've done something to trigger this woman's obsessive-compulsive disorder. But in all likelihood, whatever it was he did, it didn't involve bumpin uglies.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
83. I don't understand the open-mouthed disbelief in this thread.
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:34 PM
Nov 2012

People need to compartmentalize. Bill Clinton was a master politician and probably the best President of my lifetime. He was and perhaps still is something of a horndog. One has very little to do with the other. JFK was even more of a horndog. And more recently, Anthony Weiner was an accomplished Congressman, and the fact that he liked to tweet his cock does not negate this.

If idle chatter about Clinton's horniness offends anyone, by all means hide this thread. But nobody is taking away from the fact that he was an excellent President.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
84. Who really cares?
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:35 PM
Nov 2012

What goes on within and without the Clintons' marriage is nobody's business but their own.

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