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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIs DU now in lockstep with McCain, Ayotte, and Graham and united against Susan Rice?
It certainly appears so. The right wing knows that when attacking from the right doesn't work, simply attack from the left and we will eat it right up. Pathetic!
regnaD kciN
(26,045 posts)It certainly appears so.
x2 vancouverite
(89 posts)Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)Mojorabbit
(16,020 posts)whistler162
(11,155 posts)The OP's observation is not incorrect.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021895778
Not to mention the "SUDDENLY REVEALED" investments in energy companies that would benefit from the KeystoneXL pipeline.
walks like a duck, quacks like a duck. Guess what it ain't a hummingbird!
muriel_volestrangler
(101,368 posts)Do you really think that DU is "now in lockstep with McCain, Ayotte, and Graham"? Do you think that a couple of threads, bringing up totally different points from those senators, means DU as a whole has started agreeing with them, despite all the DU threads pointing out how the senators are full of shit? If so, you're completely clueless. Like the thread starter.
yardwork
(61,712 posts)Why would a career diplomat have such extensive investments in gas and oil companies? Whether true or not, it certainly looks like Susan Rice has a vested interest in the U.S. going to war in oil-rich regions. And she was, in fact, in favor of the war in Iraq. That smells, frankly.
This has nothing to do with the stupid Republican attacks against her.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)... it's certainly in the running.
(it's early and the stupid is strong)
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Still lots of time left in the day.
babylonsister
(171,094 posts)elleng
(131,140 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)don't do lockstep. That's why we are Democrats.
spanone
(135,884 posts)RKP5637
(67,112 posts)ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)that Canadian company that wants to build the Keystone pipeline.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)Jamaal510
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Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)GETTINGTIRED
(330 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)union_maid
(3,502 posts)Maybe something happened while I was ordering holiday gifts? Whatever it was, I'm quite surprised that it resulted in DU being in lockstep with McCain, Ayotte, and Graham on anything at all.
RomneyLies
(3,333 posts)The GOP should learn the lesson of never attacking from the right. Always attack form the left and the far left will always do their dirty work.
ForgoTheConsequence
(4,869 posts)I consider myself to the left, true. But I only seem far left because the Democratic party has been infiltrated by center-right neo-cons.
RomneyLies
(3,333 posts)The Democratic party HAS NOT been infiltrated by the center-right. The center right has been a part of the Democratic Party coalition for decades. Accept it or be like the Republican Party, driven completely by the fringe elements of the furthest edge of political beliefs.
Neither party benefits from having the fringe elements control the agenda. Right now, the fringe right is destroying the GOP. Starting around 1972 with the disastrous nomination of George McGovern, the fringe left devastated the Democratic Party. The fringe left, in fact, insured that a Ronald Reagan would become president allowing for the so-called "conservative revolution" in this country.
ForgoTheConsequence
(4,869 posts)I don't deal with DLC apologists, right wing democrats, or third way apologists.
RomneyLies
(3,333 posts)My stances on most issues are probably to the left of you. I am a realist, though. Rhetoric is the art of the ridiculous. Politics is the art of the possible. I understand that there is no way in hell I will ever get everything I want implemented. One must compromise in order to advance one's agenda.
Only the politically naive or the fringe of the fringe fail to see this reality and demand ideological purity. Those elements have all but destroyed the GOP. Those elements very nearly destroyed the Democratic Party in the late 70's and early 80's.
And do not get me wrong. There are certain areas where I will accept no compromise. Amongst these are the eligibility age for Medicare and the retirement age for social Security. IMO, altering these two things would be to break the compact of the Democratic coalition. If elected Democrats are so foolish as to do something like this, they will have destroyed themselves.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)Who says we march in lockstep when we freely disagree with one another?
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)eom
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)I see SOS.
PS: I think she would be great too!!!
OldDem2012
(3,526 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)the pipeline. I do not see people here giving up on here. I want the president to pick a fight. I think you are wrong on this. DU on the whole stands with her.
catbyte
(34,458 posts)DU=herding cats. That's why it's so awesome.
JI7
(89,275 posts)Isoldeblue
(1,135 posts)Actually, most of us here in DU march to a different drummer. Most of us don't do the party lockstep, because we have the ability to choose to think for ourselves. We leave the brainwashing to the right wing-nuts. Maybe, you are projecting your own feelings? Could be. But not clever, enough.
fried eggs
(910 posts)You have 29 posts! You're talking like you've been here 10 years!
muriel_volestrangler
(101,368 posts)based on the number of posts you've made. Isoldeblue, however, seems to understand the general thinking on DU far better than you do. You seem to have taken one thread, about Rice's holdings in Canadian oil companies (not that you explained that was what you were whining about - someone else had to do that), and suddenly think that 'DU is in lockstep', and call the whole of DU 'pathetic'.
AlexSatan
(535 posts)blm
(113,100 posts)'opposition' to Rice. I'm not buying either. McCain and Company want Obama cornered into naming Rice so they can have the neocon they prefer (ala Hillary) while they enjoy the 'perks' with the base of pretending they are against her.
Isoldeblue
(1,135 posts)when I have something of substance, worth saying.
I've lurked here a long time, so I think I have the feel of many that post here.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)mfcorey1
(11,001 posts)change my mind.
ForgoTheConsequence
(4,869 posts)im sure you have your reasons. id like to hear them.
mfcorey1
(11,001 posts)diplomatic relations, but they have not destroyed our relations with the many countries with which she collaborate. In addition, she is closer to state department affairs than bringing in a newbie. I also do not want to see McCain, Ayotte, and Graham use their bully pulpit to destroy the career of the UN Ambassador. They are mean spirited and obviously have an agenda of creating chaos for the second term of the President. Would McCain like for us to revisit the many allegations that are there about his time as a prisoner of war? There are still questions there that might want us to retrieve any medals he has.
Raine
(30,540 posts)Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)In lockstep?
pampango
(24,692 posts)figure that if they attack her unrelentingly, Obama will reflexively nominate her just to spite them, secretly giving them who they wanted all along.
ForgoTheConsequence
(4,869 posts)Actually you seem to be the one crying because people aren't in lock step with your opinion.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)who is a warmonger and who has intimate ties to Big Oil?
What ridiculous propaganda to get Dems to celebrate exactly the sort of SOS we should be opposing.
Removing Kerry from the Senate or placing Rice at SOS should not be the only options here.
NO
LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)Try not to emulate the patron saint of cartoonish simplifications of a complex world.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)This grade school argument is all over the board today. In responses to this thread, we are told that, because Ron Paul is against drone strikes, we should be for them:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021896319
LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)I really wonder about people sometimes. *sigh*
frylock
(34,825 posts)Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)Interested?
Aerows
(39,961 posts)Where all DUers agree? Delusionals United? Dark Utterances? Demonic Uteri?
Because it certainly isn't Democratic Underground. I don't think we can even agree with what morning beverage to drink is acceptable around here, even if coffee, tea, milk and organic juice were in the running.
Hell, I'm pretty sure that someone on here wants to discuss the color of the sky and whether water is wet.
bowens43
(16,064 posts)then you haven't been around very long
We never do lockstep...
Speck Tater
(10,618 posts)quinnox
(20,600 posts)It's simple-minded to think, "Oh, since the GOP is attacking Rice, that means I have to be for her"
It's possible to think, "Oh, I really don't like certain things about Rice (hawkish to the max, oil polluters heavy investor) so I don't want her as SoS. What the GOP is doing is irrelevant to my opinion"
Aerows
(39,961 posts)that the OP would be better off calling themselves "Fried Chicken". They certainly are angling for the job.
BeeBee
(1,074 posts)blm
(113,100 posts)whose neocon views (ala Hillary) comport most closely with their hawkishness?
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)DU ... in LOCK STEP?
Fucking Hilarious!!!
Be gone ... you have no powers here!