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The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 12:39 PM Dec 2012

DOJ Mysteriously Quits Monsanto Antitrust Investigation

DOJ Mysteriously Quits Monsanto Antitrust Investigation


There's an age-old tradition in Washington of making unpopular announcements when no one's listening—like, you know, the days leading up to Thanksgiving. That's when the Obama administration sneaked a tasty dish to the genetically modified seed/pesticide industry.

This treat involves the unceremonious end of the Department of Justice's antitrust investigation into possible anticompetitive practices in the US seed market, which it had begun in January 2010. It's not hard to see why DOJ would take a look. For the the crops that cover the bulk of US farmland like corn, soy, and cotton, the seed trade is essentially dominated by five companies: Monsanto, DuPont, Syngenta, Bayer, and Dow. And a single company, Monsanto, supplies nearly all genetically modified traits now so commonly used in those crops, which it licenses to its rivals for sale in their own seeds.

What's harder to figure out is why the DOJ ended the investigation without taking any action—and did so with a near-complete lack of public information. The DOJ didn't even see fit to mark the investigation's end with a press release. News of it emerged from a brief item Monsanto itself issued the Friday before Thanksgiving, declaring it had "received written notification" from the DOJ antitrust division that it had ended its investigation "without taking any enforcement action."

A DOJ spokesperson confirmed to me that the agency had "closed its investigation into possible anticompetitive practices in the seed industry," but would divulge no details. "In making its decision, the Antitrust Division took into account marketplace developments that occurred during the pendency of the investigation," she stated via email. I asked what precisely those "marketplace developments" were. "I don’t have anything else for you," she replied. Monsanto, too, is being tight-lipped—a company spokesperson said the company had no statement to make the beyond the above-linked press release.

http://www.motherjones.com/tom-philpott/2012/11/dojs-monsantoseed-industry-investigation-ends-thud

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DOJ Mysteriously Quits Monsanto Antitrust Investigation (Original Post) The Straight Story Dec 2012 OP
Crap NV Whino Dec 2012 #1
that's obama.... tomp Dec 2012 #75
If Monsanto were PATRICK Dec 2012 #2
I wish I could disagree with you Aerows Dec 2012 #18
The corporate mission to make a killing supersedes our right to exist. bulloney Dec 2012 #3
I agree, this isn't the only anti-trust issue that gets Lionessa Dec 2012 #16
I suspect that this is 2naSalit Dec 2012 #45
It's the same B. S. as it was at turn of the 20th century America, it never ends. xtraxritical Dec 2012 #30
IE TPTB never learn. Lionessa Dec 2012 #50
It's the corporate mission to cause mass suffering raking in massive profits from "treating" Dont call me Shirley Dec 2012 #61
Vilsack has leaned on DOJ. BlueToTheBone Dec 2012 #4
why am I not surprised? niyad Dec 2012 #5
This is an abomination and is one of the MOST DANGEROUS threats to our planet. loudsue Dec 2012 #6
How long will it take for polyploidy to work with the rain, wind and birds to return seeds to DhhD Dec 2012 #24
And your plan is for all POOR diabetics to just die quietly in a corner? TheMadMonk Dec 2012 #60
My reply is about SEEDS not the cloning of insulin. Poisonous molecules made in seeds and sent DhhD Dec 2012 #69
Mystery? Nah. With the current DOJ, this is the standard program. Zorra Dec 2012 #7
Many of us remember xxqqqzme Dec 2012 #72
Not in the least bit mysterious tavalon Dec 2012 #8
The DOJ's investigation into Microsoft went the same way. DCKit Dec 2012 #9
"Poof" or "Abracadabra" even..... think Dec 2012 #19
Not a mystery, just business as usual. No wonder saidsimplesimon Dec 2012 #10
his seeds and money is in with monsanto offshore I think Iceland lunasun Dec 2012 #51
A major blow for us. The marketplace rationale came from the defeat of GMO labeling in CA. freshwest Dec 2012 #56
Those campaign donations don't come free. Jakes Progress Dec 2012 #11
very sad indeed. nt TeamsterDem Dec 2012 #12
Monsanto said, "Stop it." OnyxCollie Dec 2012 #13
There's a new one every damned day. woo me with science Dec 2012 #14
Hardly surprising... tex-wyo-dem Dec 2012 #15
Mysteriously adieu Dec 2012 #17
The investigation was "holderized" - it's lousy byeya Dec 2012 #20
We The People mtasselin Dec 2012 #21
As well as 2naSalit Dec 2012 #47
k.r Solly Mack Dec 2012 #22
Two words: UnrepentantLiberal Dec 2012 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #25
too big to fight wins again scmoore120 Dec 2012 #26
Is It Too Early to Call America Dirty Socialist Dec 2012 #27
Too often Dems and Repugs are two sides of the same argument screaming at each other think Dec 2012 #28
I would be way more suprised if the DOJ had taken action against Monsanto JohnyCanuck Dec 2012 #29
marketplace developments that occurred thesquanderer Dec 2012 #31
Seems we couldn't get a simple law passed to label genetically modified food Cleita Dec 2012 #32
Well, I strongly supported 37 The Green Manalishi Dec 2012 #40
The badly written meme was part of what Monsanto propagandized on. Cleita Dec 2012 #41
It was not badly written. roody Dec 2012 #79
Doubleplusungood Berlum Dec 2012 #33
Time to provide an assist: 'What (food) movement? I don't see it. Show me.' Sounds like a plan. proverbialwisdom Dec 2012 #34
There is still an Antitrust Department? Rex Dec 2012 #35
You nailed it. tblue Dec 2012 #44
It was replaced with the Taxpayers Bail Them Out Department. LeftInTX Dec 2012 #52
It's all about $$$$$ In USA, Inc. Money talks and has power, the rest of us are supposed to RKP5637 Dec 2012 #36
Well, somethings up... ReRe Dec 2012 #37
Will the payoffs to DOJ be made in traditional brown paper bags? Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2012 #38
Examine the history of this fiasco. proverbialwisdom Dec 2012 #39
I'm shocked, I tell you... awoke_in_2003 Dec 2012 #42
I realize and am forced to accept that Obama is pragmatic, rainin Dec 2012 #43
What you say. nt laundry_queen Dec 2012 #57
I agree with that, and understand Vilsack came in with ties to GMO industry MrMickeysMom Dec 2012 #68
Hmmmm. (nt) DirkGently Dec 2012 #46
Related good read. My go-to on the subject is gmwatch.org news aggregating section. proverbialwisdom Dec 2012 #48
"Mysteriously?" 99Forever Dec 2012 #49
This is a big deal. Octafish Dec 2012 #53
I'm just surprised they ever started it. forestpath Dec 2012 #54
OK then someone got paid off felix_numinous Dec 2012 #55
It could have been the stick 99th_Monkey Dec 2012 #59
Holder DoJ "Investigation" = double cover, whitewash & spin. Sickening. ~nt 99th_Monkey Dec 2012 #58
Death Penalty For MONSANTO - K&R n/t DeSwiss Dec 2012 #62
Monsanto POWER inside the Executifve Branch: bvar22 Dec 2012 #63
WOW buy Organic if you can. These people are working way to hard to keep us in the dark Heather MC Dec 2012 #64
The Corporate Ag Borg is making steady WAR on organics Berlum Dec 2012 #66
That is just the election being over, back to business as usual. TheKentuckian Dec 2012 #65
I was wondering where they were too - bread_and_roses Dec 2012 #77
If you garden at home, please use hierloom seeds Marrah_G Dec 2012 #67
Exactly, save the seeds while it's still legal to do so! arcane1 Dec 2012 #74
And that's the way it's gonna be... DollarBillHines Dec 2012 #70
Collusion. blackspade Dec 2012 #71
Elections are over-back to the same old.... dmosh42 Dec 2012 #73
Give me a "C"! Give me an "O"! 1monster Dec 2012 #76
Can you point to any actual evidence of antitrust activity by Monsanto? Even speculate msanthrope Dec 2012 #78
kick woo me with science Dec 2012 #80
 

Lionessa

(3,894 posts)
16. I agree, this isn't the only anti-trust issue that gets
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 01:37 PM
Dec 2012

no investigation or accountability. Seems to me we have all manner of too big to compete against corporations in many many arenas.

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
61. It's the corporate mission to cause mass suffering raking in massive profits from "treating"
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 06:26 PM
Dec 2012

all that suffering. Endless supplies of victims and their money...

loudsue

(14,087 posts)
6. This is an abomination and is one of the MOST DANGEROUS threats to our planet.
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 01:04 PM
Dec 2012

This GMO crap is far more dangerous than anyone was ever told, and the latest scientific tests have proven it.

DhhD

(4,695 posts)
24. How long will it take for polyploidy to work with the rain, wind and birds to return seeds to
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 01:59 PM
Dec 2012

reproductive viability again; with the transformed new genes outside of the so called containment field? That is when genetic seed companies will say that destruction of native seeds is the fault of someone else; that they missed stopping a thief. That it was the responsibility of government to keep the genie in the bottle. That the destruction can be removed by and taken care of by the taxpayers.

Are their hybrid seeds out there? The human insulin gene(s) are placed near E. Coli bacteria so they can transform (absorb) the gene and begin to make human insulin. Then the bacteria are KILLED and the insulin collected and readied through a process before being injected into humans with sever diabetes that need insulin shots. These plant seeds are NOT killed. These seeds/grains are in the food chain.

So we have genes from the Fungi Kingdom transformed in to cells of the Plant Kingdom. These Plant Kingdom cells have NOT been KILLED but are trying to be collected by the genetic companies. Will Man win or will Nature win? In the meantime, living organisms are eating the bounty.

How do Fungi genes effect cells of the Animal Kingdom; our cells? To me, competitiveness is not the issue, biological injury is the issue.

 

TheMadMonk

(6,187 posts)
60. And your plan is for all POOR diabetics to just die quietly in a corner?
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 06:14 PM
Dec 2012

How REPUBLICAN of you.

Prior to GM insulin, insulin was harvested from the carcases of pigs in slaughterhouses. Demand is far far higher today than it was back then too.



DhhD

(4,695 posts)
69. My reply is about SEEDS not the cloning of insulin. Poisonous molecules made in seeds and sent
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 12:40 AM
Dec 2012

across state lines: So in my opinion, it is both a violation of interstate commerce and domestic terrorism.

Cloning of insulin was only an example. It is very ok to kill bacteria but not ok to sicken or kill people with molecules that are eaten as a part of food. Corn is food.

xxqqqzme

(14,887 posts)
72. Many of us remember
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 05:14 AM
Dec 2012

when DoJ was an honorable agency. Growing up during the 60s, I learned me respect for the law through DoJ's actions We will end up, after 16 years of incompetence, w/ an agency that is a shadow of what it once was. What a shame.

tavalon

(27,985 posts)
8. Not in the least bit mysterious
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 01:06 PM
Dec 2012

Money talks and governing agencies roll over and play dead. You should have seen the lengths Smithkline Beecham went to in the nineties to squash and discredit studies frm the CDC. I remember I wrote a blog title called "losing My Religion" and I did. I've never trusted another word coming from the CDC. They are not a credible source. And I hope if their is a hell, their go to guy Verstaeden (sp) has a special place there. what he did for his corporate overlords is unforgivable.

 

DCKit

(18,541 posts)
9. The DOJ's investigation into Microsoft went the same way.
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 01:10 PM
Dec 2012

I had the pleasure of working on both sides of that investigation, and it just "went away".

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
51. his seeds and money is in with monsanto offshore I think Iceland
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 04:18 PM
Dec 2012

No snark because here is the issue even for the Obama admin. Both Romneys and Obamas and Bushes all who can afford it or take the time/employees for gardening and preserving enough for thier family are eating organic and staying away from comfronting GMO (perhaps profiting?) yet not realizing that it will affect everyone.
Its not just about getting away from it, becuase it is destructive to nature
Just one of those things in the end you can not buy your way out of imo.

I try to stay away but have limited outlets and also limited time to produce food and preserve myself
plus crops like corn are hard for small land. What i buy often has GMO perhaps but how much can I know without labeling
And how much research must a working person spend to find out and trace sub suppliers

For the 90% of us I think the best we can do now in the United States( how many other countries have banned GMO?) is to push for a labeling win in a large state and push from there -it is going to be local and state cases which may be lame players for GMO giants

this doj case shows no fed help

head in sand as much as it ever was seems

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
56. A major blow for us. The marketplace rationale came from the defeat of GMO labeling in CA.
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 05:17 PM
Dec 2012

The farmers made the case they couldn't afford to prove their crops had not been contaminated with GMO from neighbors. They said truthfully, perhaps, that the DNA testing cost to prove their crop had remained non-GMO was prohibitive for them. I'm thinking they felt they would be unable to pay their mortgage if they couldn't pass the test and sell their crop 'AS IS.'

This was rumored to have affected some of the organic certified fruit growers in Latin America. To get that organic certification, IIRC, required five years of test results to prove they had not used pesticides or fertilizer on their trees. They had bought the land AS IS and said they could not hold the land for five years without a crop to sell and while there may have been a way to work around, the result was less organic fruit. Did they tell the truth? IDK.

Whether the CA farmers' claim was bogus, just like that, IDK. But that is a marketplace decision, from the producers and voters who voted GMO by voting down labeling. I think the voters of CA got that one wrong, or the bill was written badly. I was disappointed they listened to the growers, if they were acting in bad faith. Perhaps they felt they would be denied produce at a good price if the farms went out of business as some claimed, even here on DU.

A clause offering to subsidize the testing with tax dollars, instead of adding it to the cost of production, might have changed the minds of the growers. But again, IDK their real intention, and it won't do much good to rail at them, but rather, look to make this work with another bill.

With a Democratic super majority in CA now, it will still be a hard job to get CA voters to agree to the creation of another agency they pay for. I am encouraged by my CA political kindred, but at times I forget they still have a lot of radical GOP Tea Party conservatives to deal with.

I know farmers in Oregon who grow everything organically, for over 40 years now, who tried to convince their neighbors who grow beets to refrain from using GMO Roundup-ready seed, for all the reasons we care about here. They were unable to convince them they would get good market price and hose who grew the beets were looking for a good cash crop. We don't know what the rate of subsidy or no subsidy what would have convinced those voters or the ones in CA otherwise.

It's very tasty to find a bogeyman in D.C. when we are fighting these things locally. Washington reflects the will of a lot of people I don't agree with, but it's pretty hard to change their views at the grass roots. We have to keep on pushing against the corporations that have deceived our neighbors, in my mind, anyway, to continue to support these poisonous practices.

tex-wyo-dem

(3,190 posts)
15. Hardly surprising...
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 01:36 PM
Dec 2012

What would have surprised me is if Monsanto had been fully investigated and we'd see some actual *gasp* prosecutions coming out of doj.

United States of corporations, indeed :p

mtasselin

(666 posts)
21. We The People
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 01:51 PM
Dec 2012

We the People does not really hold water anymore, and when monsanto is done they will change the composition of water and charge us more for that. sad very sad

Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

 

think

(11,641 posts)
28. Too often Dems and Repugs are two sides of the same argument screaming at each other
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 02:14 PM
Dec 2012

while both quietly doing the corporations bidding in the shadows.

We should pay our leaders more and make the laws stricter for being corporate tools in government. The disappearing investigation of Monsanto shows the fruits of paying our leaders ridiculously low wages in comparison to their private sector counter parts.

The idea that politicians serve from a moral imperative rather than an economic one is a very noble ideal. However, it is obviously NOT working in this day and age....

JohnyCanuck

(9,922 posts)
29. I would be way more suprised if the DOJ had taken action against Monsanto
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 02:14 PM
Dec 2012

than I was on hearing that they just quietly let the matter drop and slunk away without explanation.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
32. Seems we couldn't get a simple law passed to label genetically modified food
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 02:24 PM
Dec 2012

ingredients as such in California either. They were able to spend so much money in advertising on it that they convinced the average Californian that it would hurt farmers. What a crock! These people need to be brought down somehow. They will be poisoning the planet where the energy industry hasn't already and it's our food supply.

The Green Manalishi

(1,054 posts)
40. Well, I strongly supported 37
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 02:51 PM
Dec 2012

But it had enough loopholes to drive a truck full of GMO fruit through. Badly written, even if well intentioned.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
41. The badly written meme was part of what Monsanto propagandized on.
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 02:57 PM
Dec 2012

A lot of propositions that pass are badly written and you can drive trucks through them, yet when passed they seem to accomplish what their purpose is. In this case labeling food would have been the result. Simple.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
35. There is still an Antitrust Department?
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 02:28 PM
Dec 2012

WHY? They never enforce anything and obviously have no real power. Plutocracies don't need antitrust laws, they might affect the uber-wealthy. AT&T is laughing at the DOJ.

tblue

(16,350 posts)
44. You nailed it.
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 03:17 PM
Dec 2012

There is NOBODY watching corporations (which are 'people, my friend'). There's only time, effort, and $$$ to go after individuals of little means for any freaking infraction, even victimless crimes.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
36. It's all about $$$$$ In USA, Inc. Money talks and has power, the rest of us are supposed to
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 02:33 PM
Dec 2012

just knuckle in and go die.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
37. Well, somethings up...
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 02:35 PM
Dec 2012

...neither of them are talking. Does one have to file a FISA to find out WTF our government is doing? I'm not too keen on secrecy. I can understand it, sort of (don't like it, though), for national security. Yeah, I don't have enough time today to rant about the subject of "secrecy" in our government. Here's a thread on DuPont hiring seed police:



[link:http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014322285|

rainin

(3,011 posts)
43. I realize and am forced to accept that Obama is pragmatic,
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 03:05 PM
Dec 2012

but I can't understand how Michelle Obama can sit by and let our children be hurt by an unsafe food supply while her children enjoy organic food. I am not Michelle bashing. I'm not even Obama bashing. I just know how I get when the issue of safe food comes up. I'm a real mama bear. I want safe food NOW for my children and for every child. Please, Michelle, remind your husband at dinner that we want our children to be healthy, too. Monsanto shouldn't be allowed to exist. Stop the revolving door of Monsanto executives getting high positions in government. Bring it down like Enron. Bury it in lawsuits. Imprison its criminal executives. Argh! I think I'll double up on the blood pressure meds now.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
68. I agree with that, and understand Vilsack came in with ties to GMO industry
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 12:11 AM
Dec 2012

I'm disappointed as hell that he could give a shit if we ever label food for GMOs.

As garden tending one of the touted USDA "People's Garden" I take great offense to all this shit.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
49. "Mysteriously?"
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 03:45 PM
Dec 2012

Perhaps to anyone with an IQ below room temp.

The Corporate States of America has no interest in real justice.

felix_numinous

(5,198 posts)
55. OK then someone got paid off
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 04:58 PM
Dec 2012

and the next step is to find out who got bribed and go from there. Follow the money.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
63. Monsanto POWER inside the Executifve Branch:
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 10:26 PM
Dec 2012

Tom Vilsack was appointed to head up the US Department of Agriculture.
Google: "Vilsack & Monsanto"

Michael Taylor was appointed head up the FDA.
Google: "Michael Taylor & Monsanto"

And that is only the tip of the iceberg.



 

Heather MC

(8,084 posts)
64. WOW buy Organic if you can. These people are working way to hard to keep us in the dark
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 11:05 PM
Dec 2012

Something ain't right

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
66. The Corporate Ag Borg is making steady WAR on organics
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 11:47 PM
Dec 2012

undermining, checking, co-opting, dissing, and muscling (Goliath Vs. David sans sling).

SCIENTIFIC MATERIALISM, INC. IS MONOPOLIZING & CORRUPTING FOOD.

TheKentuckian

(25,029 posts)
65. That is just the election being over, back to business as usual.
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 11:30 PM
Dec 2012

No need to have any blue link material sales points now to argue possible progress now.

Back to funneling resource control and fattening bottom lines.

bread_and_roses

(6,335 posts)
77. I was wondering where they were too -
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 12:04 PM
Dec 2012

wondering why they hadn't appeared in this thread - the links, the lists - They've been such a reliable fixture. But you've probably nailed it.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
67. If you garden at home, please use hierloom seeds
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 11:51 PM
Dec 2012

It's very important to not let these seeds be made extinct. You can save the seeds and replant the following year.

DollarBillHines

(1,922 posts)
70. And that's the way it's gonna be...
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 03:58 AM
Dec 2012

buy local and/or grow your own.

Local markets.

If you chose to buy from the chains, you get what you get.

It ain't gonna change.

1monster

(11,012 posts)
76. Give me a "C"! Give me an "O"!
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 11:52 AM
Dec 2012

Give me an "R"! And another "R"! Give me a "U"! Give me a "P"! Give me a "T"! Give me an "I"! Give men an "O"! Give me an "N"!

What'd'ya got?

CORRUPTION!

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
78. Can you point to any actual evidence of antitrust activity by Monsanto? Even speculate
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 02:26 PM
Dec 2012

as to what the possible activity could be?


As the article indicates, the licensure availability would probably obviate the antitrust issues.

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