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WilliamPitt

(58,179 posts)
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 02:19 PM Dec 2012

One reporter gets it.

Fiscal Cliff Fictions: Let’s All Agree to Pretend the GOP Isn’t Full of It
By Michael Grunwald
Nov. 30, 2012

It’s really amazing to see political reporters dutifully passing along Republican complaints that President Obama’s opening offer in the fiscal cliff talks is just a recycled version of his old plan, when those same reporters spent the last year dutifully passing along Republican complaints that Obama had no plan. It’s even more amazing to see them pass along Republican outrage that Obama isn’t cutting Medicare enough, in the same matter-of-fact tone they used during the campaign to pass along Republican outrage that Obama was cutting Medicare.

This isn’t just cognitive dissonance. It’s irresponsible reporting. Mainstream media outlets don’t want to look partisan, so they ignore the BS hidden in plain sight, the hypocrisy and dishonesty that defines the modern Republican Party. I’m old enough to remember when Republicans insisted that anyone who said they wanted to cut Medicare was a demagogue, because I’m more than three weeks old.

I’ve written a lot about the GOP’s defiance of reality–its denial of climate science, its simultaneous denunciations of Medicare cuts and government health care, its insistence that debt-exploding tax cuts will somehow reduce the debt—so I often get accused of partisanship. But it’s simply a fact that Republicans controlled Washington during the fiscally irresponsible era when President Clinton’s budget surpluses were transformed into the trillion-dollar deficit that President Bush bequeathed to President Obama. (The deficit is now shrinking.) It’s simply a fact that the fiscal cliff was created in response to GOP threats to force the U.S. government to default on its obligations. The press can’t figure out how to weave those facts into the current narrative without sounding like it’s taking sides, so it simply pretends that yesterday never happened.

(snip)

Whatever. I realize that the GOP’s up-is-downism puts news reporters in an awkward position. It would seem tendentious to point out Republican hypocrisy on deficits and Medicare and stimulus every time it comes up, because these days it comes up almost every time a Republican leader opens his mouth. But we’re not supposed to be stenographers. As long as the media let an entire political party invent a new reality every day, it will keep on doing it. Every day.

The rest: http://swampland.time.com/2012/11/30/fiscal-cliff-fictions-lets-all-agree-to-pretend-the-gop-isnt-full-of-it/
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One reporter gets it. (Original Post) WilliamPitt Dec 2012 OP
Kicking for later reading. eom Fridays Child Dec 2012 #1
There is no "main stream media". There is only corporate media BlueCaliDem Dec 2012 #2
Well said! City Lights Dec 2012 #39
I believe nothing from the idiot box.. 99Forever Dec 2012 #3
+1 you took the words right out of my mouth. rDigital Dec 2012 #7
We should send the GOP Fiscal Cliff Notes TomClash Dec 2012 #4
TomClash, we agree. Why not allow them to jump off the cliff? I'm saidsimplesimon Dec 2012 #8
You bet TomClash Dec 2012 #26
Fantastic article ---Corporate (including NPR) talking heads have betrayed their duty & no longer... Faryn Balyncd Dec 2012 #5
Very nice piece of work. The Doctor. Dec 2012 #6
Thanks Will... ReRe Dec 2012 #9
Great post! To paraphrase Republican Jesus leftupnorth Dec 2012 #10
kick Hamlette Dec 2012 #11
True that elleng Dec 2012 #12
kicking and bookmarking Flaxbee Dec 2012 #13
K&R Sherman A1 Dec 2012 #14
Three cheers to Michael Grunwald! That's a really good find, Will. The Wielding Truth Dec 2012 #15
Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #16
Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #17
Welcome. russspeakeasy Dec 2012 #19
I didn't know right wingers were allowed on this site. Auntie Bush Dec 2012 #27
Your last two posts have been so full of.... blackspade Dec 2012 #29
"ABC, CNN, NBC, are fully liberal news sources" NRaleighLiberal Dec 2012 #18
Just subtle/sophisticated propaganda The Wizard Dec 2012 #24
my son's wife just sold a tiny house in london with no yard for a million pounds. i am sure Hawaii riverbendviewgal Dec 2012 #20
i agree riverbendviewgal Dec 2012 #21
Mr. Pitt, you get it. I've been reading your articles for...well saidsimplesimon Dec 2012 #22
K&R DeSwiss Dec 2012 #23
k+r! TeamPooka Dec 2012 #25
+1000 blackspade Dec 2012 #28
But, but, but... Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2012 #30
Michael Grunwald gets it! K&R B Calm Dec 2012 #31
Well, it isn't "irresponsible reporting", it's compliance by the media to their Corporate Masters... stlsaxman Dec 2012 #32
good writing on media function.... tomp Dec 2012 #33
this heaven05 Dec 2012 #35
wow! heaven05 Dec 2012 #34
The opening paragraph alone deserves a big, honking K&R!! SunSeeker Dec 2012 #36
Up WilliamPitt Dec 2012 #37
Republicons.. butterfly77 Dec 2012 #38

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
2. There is no "main stream media". There is only corporate media
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 02:37 PM
Dec 2012

looking out for corporate interests, always and forever. And until the American people understand this blatant truth, we will always be a day late and a dollar short, and continue to make excuses for the "reporters" whose very livelihood depends on whether or not they tow the corporate meme with their corporate bosses' financial interests in mind.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
3. I believe nothing from the idiot box..
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 02:44 PM
Dec 2012

... calling itself "news." It's all hogwash with an agenda of robbing us. All of it.

TomClash

(11,344 posts)
4. We should send the GOP Fiscal Cliff Notes
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 02:47 PM
Dec 2012

Large defense cuts

Middle class tax increases

A possible new recession or at least slower growth

A decline in corporate profits

How are you going to explain that to your constituents?

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
8. TomClash, we agree. Why not allow them to jump off the cliff? I'm
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 03:12 PM
Dec 2012

sure Boeing and other stakeholders in the defense budget will be very surprised. (That includes those who profit from the NSA (Homeland Security money rackers).

Faryn Balyncd

(5,125 posts)
5. Fantastic article ---Corporate (including NPR) talking heads have betrayed their duty & no longer...
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 03:07 PM
Dec 2012

Last edited Sat Dec 1, 2012, 10:23 PM - Edit history (1)


...have any right to call themselves, or consider themselves, journalists.

Grunwald hits it out of the park!

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
9. Thanks Will...
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 03:18 PM
Dec 2012

...this is a good for all to read, as some are not convinced that this whole "cliff" business is nothing but a shell game. If I had to give one word to describe the GOP it would be RUSE.

leftupnorth

(886 posts)
10. Great post! To paraphrase Republican Jesus
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 03:53 PM
Dec 2012

Well, the trouble with our conservative friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn’t so.

elleng

(131,077 posts)
12. True that
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 04:13 PM
Dec 2012

'as long as the media let an entire political party invent a new reality every day, it will keep on doing it. Every day.'

The Wielding Truth

(11,415 posts)
15. Three cheers to Michael Grunwald! That's a really good find, Will.
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 05:18 PM
Dec 2012

...But in early 2009, when Obama began pushing his $787 billion stimulus plan, the GOP began describing stimulus as an assault on free enterprise—even though House Republicans (including Paul Ryan) voted for a $715 billion stimulus alternative that was virtually indistinguishable from Obama’s socialist version. The current Republican position seems to be that the fiscal cliff’s instant austerity would destroy the economy, which is odd after four years of Republican clamoring for austerity, and that the cliff’s military spending cuts in particular would kill jobs, which is even odder after four years of Republican insistence that government spending can’t create jobs.....

Read more: http://swampland.time.com/2012/11/30/fiscal-cliff-fictions-lets-all-agree-to-pretend-the-gop-isnt-full-of-it/#ixzz2DpyMhoTE
^*(^&% Liars and Con Men!

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russspeakeasy

(6,539 posts)
19. Welcome.
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 06:10 PM
Dec 2012
"They don't hate the United States, they hate the United States Government". That has been my point for 5,000 posts. I think you said it better than I did.

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
27. I didn't know right wingers were allowed on this site.
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 11:49 PM
Dec 2012

Where'd you get all your information? Is this you Carl?

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
29. Your last two posts have been so full of....
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 04:33 AM
Dec 2012

mismashed bullshit, I can't even find a place to start.

Whatever 'sources' you are getting your info from are terrible.
They have not only left you uninformed but divorced from reality.

riverbendviewgal

(4,253 posts)
20. my son's wife just sold a tiny house in london with no yard for a million pounds. i am sure Hawaii
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 06:22 PM
Dec 2012

Is expensive and my son and his wife are no where as rich as the Obama's..24 million is chicken feed to the millionaires and billionaires of the USA.

As for the media fox blantantly lies. You seem to be very right wing thinking. Your common sense and logic are very unlike mine.

stlsaxman

(9,236 posts)
32. Well, it isn't "irresponsible reporting", it's compliance by the media to their Corporate Masters...
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 07:45 AM
Dec 2012

They have to put food on their family, too. And just like whores; they'll perform outrageous acts for money. If they DON'T pass along the propaganda they lose their paycheck.

In fact, it's not "reporting" at all- it's "repeating".

Man, I sure miss The Horse...

 

tomp

(9,512 posts)
33. good writing on media function....
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 09:36 AM
Dec 2012

....short memory on the dems role in the current problem.

1)clinton/glass-stegal
2)dems voting for war
3)dems allowing raid on ss funds
4)obama/cat food commission
5)obama failure to prosecute bankers
6)obama bringing bankers into his inner circle
7)etc...

blindly loyal dems, media, back room politics, general lack of transparency, and collusion between the parties make it impossible for all the cards to be on the table. it's all about fooling the people into supporting the system.

 

butterfly77

(17,609 posts)
38. Republicons..
Mon Dec 3, 2012, 12:19 PM
Dec 2012

keep heading for the camera claiming that this is not serious proposal,when they are afraid to put anything on the table.

The problem with cuts for republiCONS is the fact that they aren't going to hurt people.

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