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Bama's back in the National Championship game for the third time in four years. Held off UGA even thought Bama messed up a couple of times. Probably the greatest SEC Championship ever.
BAMA - 32
UGA - 28
AJ McCarron - 13/21 - 162 yds, 1 TD, 1 INT
Eddie Lacy - 20 carries - 181 yds, 2 TD
TJ Yeldon - 25 carries - 153 yds, 1 TD
Amari Cooper - 7 catches - 127 yds, 1 TD
An SEC Championship record 350 yds rushing by Bama. Previous record of 300 yds was held by Bama.
Bad ass game. Bama could have won by more if it weren't for mistakes but they won and that is all that matters. Georgia should get to play in a BCS game. I get that UF is 11-1 and #3 now but NCG shouldn't count as one of the SEC's BCS bowls when Georgia is as good as they are and the conference is as strong as it is...
Either way, ROLL TIDE ROLL!
trishtrash
(74 posts)But a few more ticks of the clock and the Dawgs would be playing Notre Dame in the big one. It was a game for the ages. So right that Georgia will be screwed by the BCS. We took care of the Gators pretty handily.
WilliamPitt
(58,179 posts)"If you want to go to Heaven,
And walk the streets of gold,
You have to know the password is
ROLL TIDE ROLL"
Notre Dame is doomed.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)I am happy that Alabama fans are happy, and actually regret not having tv at this point.
Good news, indeed.
ProdigalJunkMail
(12,017 posts)God IS Football... there is no distinction.
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alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Mental mistakes at the very end (last 15 seconds) probably cost Georgia the game.
That said, Eddie Lacy was ridiculous. He sliced through Georgia's defense like butter. He ran right over NFL caliber linebackers. It was a remarkable performance.
WilliamPitt
(58,179 posts)It wasn't all luck.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Still, if Murray spikes the ball when they get down to the 11, and they regroup for two more plays, y'all would likely be singing a different song.
The shock is that 'Bama ultimately relied on two very costly mental errors on the part of a Georgia offense despite 350 rushing yards.
I have no Dawg in this fight, so to speak. Thought it was a great game, and didn't care who won, really.
Sekhmets Daughter
(7,515 posts)and Yeldon is no slouch either.
ProdigalJunkMail
(12,017 posts)I love to watch him run.
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Sekhmets Daughter
(7,515 posts)when he has the ball.
OneBlueDotBama
(1,385 posts)Jan 7th..............
dems_rightnow
(1,956 posts)Maybe they'll get to vote you national champions.
WilliamPitt
(58,179 posts)tarheelsunc
(2,117 posts)It happens every year that they get obvious preferential treatment. We saw that again after Texas A&M went into Tuscaloosa and straight up beat them, and they only dropped 3 spots in the polls. Any other team in that situation, and they drop a minimum of 5. Just look at the computer rankings, they aren't top 2 in a single one.
For the record, I'm a neutral observer. My team's lucky when it can make a bowl game, which they are currently banned from.
ProdigalJunkMail
(12,017 posts)and due to a last second stupidity on the part of our offensive coordinator. Three spot drop was appropriate to a team that was, at the time, arguably playing the best football in the country.
but keep on believing they are simply being given preferential treatment... in EVERY poll.
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amywalk
(254 posts)Paladin
(28,273 posts)bamademo
(2,193 posts)Go Vols
(5,902 posts)suited me.
underpants
(182,883 posts)I understand mixing up the offense but that O line is incredible.
Saban, whatever your opinion of him, is a FANTASTIC coach and rectuiter.
Are_grits_groceries
(17,111 posts)The Tide might be rolling out. He took lessons from Les Miles or something. If that WAS the last play, it should have been in the endzone.
taterguy
(29,582 posts)It got tipped and fell short
ProdigalJunkMail
(12,017 posts)they were trying to catch Bama asleep at the wheel... but i still think he should have spiked the ball and gotten their act together and had plan to get into the end zone. they would have had at least two shots. but i can also see the mindset behind the attempted fade. it is usually either a touchdown or an incompletion and probably seemed like a free play... i think it was a bit of a fluke that it was batted...
one hell of a game.
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Are_grits_groceries
(17,111 posts)You want to put it IN the endzone. If he had put it in the back corner, it would have been one hell of a tip to get it 5yards out. You can't leave it near the goal line.
Enrique
(27,461 posts)i.e. no teabagging!
Are_grits_groceries
(17,111 posts)to jail for 2 years too.
AlinPA
(15,071 posts)to helmet and the refs left it go. ND better watch out for that dirty stuff.
ProdigalJunkMail
(12,017 posts)but the hit was helmet-to-helmet and should have been flagged.
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AlinPA
(15,071 posts)How they can say otherwise is not acceptable.
ProdigalJunkMail
(12,017 posts)but that was certainly the worst. however, even IF they had gotten the call (and they should have flagged him), Bama would still have had the ball because it was after the interception. but yes, very nasty hit... and i am a Bama fan that was at the game and could see it from my upper deck seats.
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AlinPA
(15,071 posts)great matchup with ND. Well, hope you can get to Miami and see ND stop that running game!
ProdigalJunkMail
(12,017 posts)but we shall see. as they say, 'that's why we play the games!' i am very excited to see two 'old school' teams getting to the big game to play some serious smash-mouth football. and yes, i will be there.
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RB TexLa
(17,003 posts)If Murray didn't want to be blocked, he should have taken a knee after the ball was intercepted.
amywalk
(254 posts)It was legal. Change the rules, but it was legal.
GaYellowDawg
(4,449 posts)First, Georgia did not "get away with a lot of dirty plays." I was at the game, and can tell you firsthand that you're full of it there. Georgias plays were flagged and Bamas werent 8 penalties to 2. Second, the hit on Murray wasn't legal - the Alabama player targeted him high and aimed his helmet straight at Murray's. You can see him jerk his helmet up at the last second to make sure it was helmet to helmet:
This is the epitome of being a sore winner. What you cant dispute is that 1) it was dirty and illegal and 2) it doesnt change a dang thing. Stop trying to justify that dirty play by drawing false equivalencies and go try to represent the SEC with a modicum of class against the Irish.
bamacrat
(3,867 posts)I have a pic of it if I can get it on here I will. Each team played with extreme emotion and that is why the SEC is "grown man football". THey teach you from peewee football on, if the ball is in play keep your head on a swivel. Either way Dial clearly led with shoulder, even Murray said it was not a hit to the head. But it wouldnt have changed the outcome had it been called... I have the screen shot of Murray's eyes right when he see's Dial.
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuddddddddddddgggggggggggggge!!!!!!!!!!
Eye poke, called penalty on Bama
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GaYellowDawg
(4,449 posts)First of all, Dial absolutely targeted Murray's head, and when you look at the moving .gif, Murray's head snaps back first and his body follows. It was a dirty shot, and denying it makes you look like a complete fool. Second, it doesn't matter one fucking bit whether it affected the outcome, it's a play that should have been penalized. You sound exactly like Auburn fans that defended Nick Fairley a couple of years back. Third, I didn't say that Georgia had no dirty plays. I said we didn't have "lots" of them, and we sure as hell didn't get away with lots of them.
By the way, there were calls that affected the outcome of the game. Best example was a pass interference call on a 3rd down stop in the red zone where all of America except one ref could tell that the ball was uncatchable. That gave Alabama a TD instead of a field goal. Another example was the roughing the passer call on a 3rd down stop in the red zone that gave Alabama a TD instead of a field goal. An even playing field wouldn't have necessarily given us a win, but it sure would have been better than what we got.
amywalk
(254 posts)He hits with his shoulder first, it hits his helmet next. Even Murray said it wasn't helmet to helmet. He said he got the wind knocked out of him. They should have called unnecessary roughness perhaps, but it was not initially helmet to helmet. And Murray was a defender at that point. He was not defenseless. You get over yourself. The play was in front of him. He threw an int He was a defender at that point. Please if he doesn't want to get hit, fall down. Sore Loser.
GaYellowDawg
(4,449 posts)the bullshit that "Georgia got away with a lot of dirty plays."
Dial's hit was a dirty hit. You know it. All you have to do is look at the video - but you can't admit that someone on your precious team did something wrong. He did. Sore loser? Fuck you. You're an asshole who wouldn't begin to know how to win graciously.
amywalk
(254 posts)GaYellowDawg
(4,449 posts)We got away with one dirty play. I didn't think the hit on McCarron merited a roughing call, but when he called for it, he got it. If it was borderline, Georgia got called for it with that exception. That's not "lots" - and I would support Coach Richt suspending that player for the bowl game.
amywalk
(254 posts)Played a hell of a game. They could have won just as easily as Bama. I thought they were a great team. It was a freaking war. All Georgia did was run out of clock. If Murray had spiked the ball, they would have won. I was just arguing about some calls. I'm not taking anything away from the awesome game Georgia played. Hats off to UGA. It was one of the greatest games I have seen. Both teams payed their tails off. It's too bad anyone had to lose. But thanks for all the kind words.
GaYellowDawg
(4,449 posts)What does arguing about a call have to do with being a sore loser? I never said it affected the outcome of the game. I thought Alabama
played a hell of a game, and will still be pulling for the Tide against ND despite this argument. Your offensive line was incredible. I was just arguing about some calls. I'm not taking anything away from the awesome game Alabama played. Hats off to Bama. It may have been the greatest game I have seen. Both teams played their tails off. It's too bad anyone had to lose. But thanks for calling me a sore loser and prompting my response - which I pretty much regret now.
bamacrat
(3,867 posts)Also what about that pass interference no-call on UGA because the ball was "tipped" replay showed that it was not touched at all. There were no more dirty plays by one side or the other. UGA got calls, Bama got calls, UGA didn't get calls, Bama didn't get calls. It's football.
I'm used to Bama hate by now, so please continue GaYellowDawg.
GaYellowDawg
(4,449 posts)It wasn't interference, tipped pass or not. And the REALLY big pass interference call that was made wasn't, either - that pass was WAY overthrown.
I don't hate 'Bama, and were the game played exactly in reverse, you'd be hollering about a blindsiding of McCarron and I'd be hollering about a Georgia player being poked in the eye. If I was indulging in 'Bama hate, I'd be rooting for Notre Dame, which I AM NOT. Have you seen those ridiculous Tiger Leprechaun t-shirts that Auburn is selling? Now THAT is Bama hate.
bamacrat
(3,867 posts)As long as I can remember UGA fans were always the better of the SEC. When I was in school UGA came to Tuscaloosa and beat us in OT. The night before the game we were at the bars and there were a lot of GA fans out there. Had a blast. Auburn just wants to do something to look relevant...which will not happen for a while.
It was the best game of the season by far.
Was interference on the "tipped" pass, but what happened happened. Que sera sera.
Springslips
(533 posts)Saban has solidified his place as the top coach in the FBS. My school went 12-0, but the Buckeyes are not near Bama's level yet, they are working to get there though. I see some Saban versus Meyers NC match-up soon, they will be classic. Meanwhile, take care of the Irish, I want to see Kelley's face flushed red!
zellie
(437 posts)dawg
(10,624 posts)Still hurting!
But it was an awesome championship game. Someone had to lose. And I hope 'Bama rolls over ND in the big game.
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ProdigalJunkMail
(12,017 posts)it was a hell of a game. we were packed in there like sardines. so much fun... even though i went with a UGA fan.
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bamacrat
(3,867 posts)They are a hell of a football team. They play a similar style of football as we do and are loaded with NFL talent. They are the second best team in the SEC by far.
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)Please consider re-posting in Sports.
LTH,
Host, GD
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)gnashing teeth and rending garments because I locked this all-important sports thread. Now, wipe your noses. Here, have a cookie.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)I thought it was much ado about nothing myself.
Saboburns
(2,807 posts)Traits unworthy of a good moderator.
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)As for how I come "of," you're concern is noted.
Violet_Crumble
(35,977 posts)As a Host, you should be used to seeing hosts disagreeing with each other at times. There was no gnashing teeth and rending garments...
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)Violet_Crumble
(35,977 posts)I thought you were talking about us, as imo that's the discussion that should have led to the unlocking of the OP
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Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)Just so's it will find it's way back on Page One.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)When I kicked this it wasn't on page one (right after I unlocked the lock). I was TRYING to be magnanimous.
GaYellowDawg
(4,449 posts)Magnanimity comes across much better without condescension as a lead-in. Just a little tip for you.
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)nomorenomore08
(13,324 posts)joeybee12
(56,177 posts)God forbid better teams than Bama...like Oregon...should make it in...when the playoffs finally come, Bama will never win another nc because they won't be able to have it handed to them.
bamacrat
(3,867 posts)Oregon is better? Really? They look prettier and may be more fun to watch for those who do not enjoy real football. Any team with a decent defense can stop Oregon. I and the rest of the BamaNation/SEC can't wait for the playoffs. Can't wait to hear the whining about how 3 of the 4 teams are from the SEC. No championship has been handed to us. We were #1 for most of the season and yes we lost one game to the guy who will win the Heisman. Ore. and KSU couldn't handle the spotlight or pressure that being #1 or #2 brings. Handed to us, pfft. Alabama has more bowl appearances and bowl wins than any team in the NCAA, we have won the most NC's, the most SEC Championships. Hell, Alabama QB's won the first three Super Bowls. Our teams are bigger, better and more disciplined than any other conference. We send more to the pro's, have more championships and have the best looking women.
Also the "illiterates from Bama" is an old tired cliche. What next? Asian people are good at math or women can't drive. Please come up with a new derisive jab for the south.
bamacrat
(3,867 posts)I don't get that. I mean if you aren't an Alabama fan then I can see where you might be coming from, but to root for ND just because is not cool.
Roll Tide
Logical
(22,457 posts)Ilsa
(61,698 posts)'Bama vs TAMU.
I hope Alabama beats the crap out of ND. Bigger than the spread.
GaYellowDawg
(4,449 posts)Not for a while, anyway. But I hope you do roll Notre Dame.
amywalk
(254 posts)Go Vols
(5,902 posts)could beat ND and has as good of a record as Ala.
Best thing to come from Ala. is I-65 north.
GaYellowDawg
(4,449 posts)"could beat ND" isn't that high a bar. Hell, Pitt almost hit it.
So Oregon could beat ND. So could Alabama, Georgia, and Florida. Kansas State? Maybe, if they didn't turn into the Mildcats like they did against Baylor.
Go Vols
(5,902 posts)ND will be killed by Ala.
I would prefer to see the SEC play a more worthy opponent.
I would also like for Tenn. to get a decent coach.
amywalk
(254 posts)joeybee12
(56,177 posts)The line now is Ala. by 10 over ND,it will be more by game time.
Third Doctor
(1,574 posts)WiffenPoof
(2,404 posts)...the Crimson Tide.
Call me Deacon Blues
rufus dog
(8,419 posts)Just like I despise the entitelment and hypocracy of the republican party I despise the entitlement and hypocracy of the SEC. No way in FUCKING HELL does Georgia deserve to be ranked in front of Oregon going into the game.
Pure fucking ignorant fucking BIAS.
That being said, Bama deserves to be a notch above Oregon, so my disdain is not focused on Bama, but on the system that makes the winner of the SEC a step above a one loss Pac12 team, even though on conference schedules an extra gimmie game each year.
SO FUCK THE SEC! and go Irish. (man that hurts)
GaYellowDawg
(4,449 posts)Georgia did deserve to be ranked in front of Oregon. Who did Oregon beat that was better than Florida? There's no way that Oregon stays on the field with Alabama like Georgia did. The first time Oregon ran into something resembling a defense, they wet the bed. Stanford has what would be a mid-level SEC defense. By the way, for you non-Stanford PAC-12 fans, a "defense" is the part of the team that is supposed to prevent scores by the opponent's offense, instead of waving at various backs or receivers as they go by.
Ranking SEC teams higher isn't "bias" or "entitlement" if it's earned. Earned by the SEC cleaning the rest of the country's clock on a very regular basis. The only team to beat an SEC team in the championship game is another SEC team. Oregon? No. Oklahoma? No. Ohio State? LOL.
Please. Oregon couldn't even make it to the conference championship game in a second-rate conference. The SEC is a level above. Best teams. Best players. Best coaches. Best stadiums. Best traditions. Most devoted fans. The rest of you need to learn your station, and stand up and salute your betters instead of crying "bias."
rufus dog
(8,419 posts)MAN up you SEC WUSSIES! Play 9 conference games like the Pac-12 instead of these BULLSHIT games in NOVEMBER!
bluestate10
(10,942 posts)One system that I saw some one write about in a sports blog would have the 15th and 16th team get in via a 1 game playoff between the 15th-18th ranked teams.
RB TexLa
(17,003 posts)You can't honestly believe what you wrote. Has to be a joke.
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bluestate10
(10,942 posts)I will be truly shocked if ND wins. Alabama is bigger, faster and has a deeper team at all positions.
RZM
(8,556 posts)I pick the Fighting Irish in a close one. Less than a touchdown.
11 Bravo
(23,926 posts)LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)amywalk
(254 posts)LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)ieoeja
(9,748 posts)I coasted through Auburn getting mostly As and some Bs.
Then I found myself completely lost in certain sophomore level classes. Ended up having to re-take the freshman level at the Big 10 school and found they were much more challenging than at Auburn. Even though I was purportedly taking the same classes for a second time, my grades were worse because they were that much more difficult.
It's only an anecdote. But that was my personal experience with SEC vs Big 10 schools.
bamacrat
(3,867 posts)Alabama has a top 30 Law School - above Pepperdine, Baylor, SMU, Temple, UConn, Pitt, etc..
Alabama has a top 30 Accounting program
UGA has a top 40 Law School
UF has a top 20 Accounting School
Vandy - Vandy is an ivy league school with a southern accent
Just because something is in or from the south and especially the southeast does not immediately make it worse, or dumber or bigoted. SEC Schools especially Alabama have some of the highest graduation rates for its athletes in the country. Also Alabama's center Barrett Jones won the Campbell award last night. The Campbell award is the Academic Heisman.
We place a premium on athletics, primarily football. We do it better than anyone else and like it or not we will for the foreseeable future. Alabama, aside from football, also has 6 Gymnastics National Championships, a Softball National Championship and a Women's Golf National Championship. Last year Alabama won National Championships in Football, Softball, Gymnastics and Women's Golf. How progressive right? We put enough emphasis on women's sports to win the NC in three different women's sports in one year.
I am obviously extremely biased toward Alabama, considering I am from there, live there and went to school at BAMA. This same thing can be said for UGA, UF, UT, et al. The perception that southern schools aren't as good as northern or western or coastal or New England schools is wrong. The SEC has many great institutions and have produced some notable people over the years.
Alabama:
Harper Lee - To Kill A Mockingbird
Jim Nabors
Sela Ward
Hugo Black - Supreme Court Justice
Morris Dees - Founder of the Southern Poverty Law Center
Don Siegelman
Mel Allen - Voice of the Yankees
Howell Raines - Pulitzer Prize Winner
Joe Scarborough -...ok so I'll give you this one, and..
Bernie Madoff - this one, did not graduate but attended.
Timothy Leary - Hell yeah
Jimmy Wales - Co-founder of Wikipedia
Abdurrahim El-Keib - taught here and is now the interim Prime Minister of Libya
I could go on and on for each school. So yeah, the SEC will probably never have an alum as President but to say they aren't quality schools is incorrect.
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)get is non-existent.
Erose999
(5,624 posts)and I'm damn proud of it. I might have had to work more for it than some star athletes who have free ride scholarships, private tutors, free parking passes, and boosters shaking their hands and handing them $100 bills under the table... but everyone knows thats the way it is. And its certainly not exclusive to the SEC either.
DefenseLawyer
(11,101 posts)The schools use football as a moneymaker and are happy to slide players through as long as they can play on Saturday, but the idea that the players all go pro is silly.
bamacrat
(3,867 posts)The education that SEC players gets is great. Not all go pro, but if you can go pro you probably play in the SEC. Alabama alone has many scholar athletes. Yes some coast through one P.E. degrees or "General Studies" but the majority get a real education. Our QB from the 09 Championship team, Greg McElroy, was a Rhodes Scholar finalist. Our C, Barrett Jones, just won the Campbell Award which is the Academic Heisman. He has a 4.0 in Accounting and is getting his Masters.
Not sure where you went to school but the "education" we get at SEC schools is very very good.
kpete
(72,018 posts)Yeah Baby,
love Alabama
kpete
liberaltrucker
(9,130 posts)Yeah, I KNOW they sucked this year.
bamacrat
(3,867 posts)Who did you want? I wanted yall to get anyone but Petrino or Kirby Smart...
Bake
(21,977 posts)Saban blows.
Bake
jehop61
(1,735 posts)GO NOTRE DAME YEAH!!!!!!!
Are_grits_groceries
(17,111 posts)War Irish!
bamacrat
(3,867 posts)Auburn fans are the only ones who have the right to hate Bama just because they are Bama. I remember the Roll Ducks signs from 2010. Best rivalry in CFB.
Are_grits_groceries
(17,111 posts)I feel the same way about U. Of South Carolina. We are right up there with you. Back in the day, the Clemson/SCarolina game was played on Big Thursday when the state fair was set up. Some Lamecocks had barricaded themselves into a defensive position. Clemson students were advancing on them with loaded guns before it was broken up. Woulda shot them too.
There is nothing like a rivalry between 2 schools in the same state on the same level.
bamacrat
(3,867 posts)The Peach Bowl this year is better than a few of the BCS games. Yes the Peach Bowl. I can't stand all of these corporate sponsored bowls. I mean I know they all are but it kinda feel like NASCAR saying the Chik-fil-a bowl or the BBVA Compass Bowl or the Tax Slayer.com Bowl...or the San Diego County Credit Union Poinsettia Bowl. The last one is just too damn long.
Are_grits_groceries
(17,111 posts)They say something like The Rose Bowl sponsored by ....... I think that's better. I also think the sponsors would get more out of it.
If people can actually hear Sugar Bowl or Cotton Bowl, etc., the good will that bowl has built up can help. They are fast losing the opportunity to keep the older names out front and meaningful
If we can keep our heads on, we can beat LSU. When Cam had his season, we played Auburn first and came close to beating them. If our starting QB hadn't broken his ribs during the game, we might have and stopped that train before it left the station. I don't know how he stayed in the game.
bamacrat
(3,867 posts)Tajh Boyd, Sammy Watkins and Hopkins are badass. Had they not slipped against FSU, we might not be going to Miami. I went to Atl. in 2008 when we open with Clemson. Great game, great fans. I was staying at the Omni and was at the hotel bar after the game and a Clemson fan bought me a drink, gave me $20 and asked if I wanted to come hang out with him and his wife. Great people. Not sure if they were looking to swing..... But either way awesome, right. Clemson has always been my favorite ACC school.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Roll Tide.
bamacrat
(3,867 posts)First SEC Championship that we have not played yall. Bama vs UF gets little attention as a great rivalry.. I guess the fact that we don't play every year. Which is probably why we have met 7 times in the SEC Championship.