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kentuck

(111,110 posts) Sun Dec 2, 2012, 01:55 PM Dec 2012

The taxcuts for 98% of the people is a very attractive Republican idea?

So said a few of the talking heads, including Republicans, on This Week's morning show. To make these tax cuts "permanent" is something that George W Bush could not have done.

That is why the Republicans will accept the President's proposal. All this debate over the "fiscal cliff" is just a game.

Is it really just a game to make everyone think they got the biggest piece of the pie? On top of that, we will agree to extend the payroll taxes whereby the SS fund will now go into deficit in 2030, earlier than the 2035 date that was estimated just two years ago.

Are we being played?

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The taxcuts for 98% of the people is a very attractive Republican idea? (Original Post) kentuck Dec 2012 OP

Since it is really tax cuts for 100% of the people, dogman Dec 2012 #1

And they can always create another loophole to make up for that? kentuck Dec 2012 #2

Nobody likes to think they are being played for "patsies".. kentuck Dec 2012 #3

It's another GOP shell game. summerschild Dec 2012 #4

dogman

(6,073 posts)

1. Since it is really tax cuts for 100% of the people,

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 02:02 PM

Dec 2012

I'd say we are being played. The tax rate only changes for income above $250,000 if that is the number decided on.

kentuck

(111,110 posts)

2. And they can always create another loophole to make up for that?

Reply to dogman (Reply #1)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 02:06 PM

Dec 2012

They also said that this offer was 80% of the Bush tax cuts.

kentuck

(111,110 posts)

3. Nobody likes to think they are being played for "patsies"..

Reply to dogman (Reply #1)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 02:13 PM

Dec 2012

As Democrats, I fear we will rue this day...

summerschild

(725 posts)

4. It's another GOP shell game.

Reply to kentuck (Reply #3)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 02:34 PM

Dec 2012

They intend to lie that keeping the Bush cuts for lower wage earners is a GOP goal = GOP heroes

while bashing dems for protecting Medicare/Medicaid (the "takers" in their dictionary) = DEMS villans

The spin has become more obvious this past week as a few republicans (pretending to be moderate) have had the "courage" to step out and be "responsible" by acknowledging tax cuts for the 98% are necessary AND SO ARE MEDICARE CUTS.

Just listen to Bob Corker today. Or Lindsay Graham:

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/12/02/graham-i-think-were-going-over-the-cliff/
CNN) – Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham was blunt in his assessment Sunday of where negotiations to avert the fiscal cliff are headed. "I think we're going over the cliff," he said.
"It's pretty clear to me they've made a political calculation," the South Carolina senator said on CBS' "Face the Nation," calling the administration's initial proposal offered Thursday "a joke" when it comes to entitlement reform. Graham, like other Republicans, has said he's willing to accept new tax revenue, but only if it comes with significant changes to entitlement programs like Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security.

They haven't had a change of heart. They just intend to shift the blame onto Obama if he refuses their deal and we go over the cliff.

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