and nobody cares?

The fiscal cliff is an optical illusion.

I think he has an ace up his sleeve

Welcome to DU

We will all still be here the next day.

not to listen to what Misanthrope Sycophant Monsters say about anything, including the weather . Boner has Flea baggers and the 1% on his side . Welcome to DU .

But this just my new avatar after being thrown out a couple years ago..( I was mad at Obama for not standing up to the Republicans) ... I stayed away for a couple of years ...I even pleaded for mercy....but after being denied ...I decided to come back in a new guise

silly

Then boner is screwed...

If the Repubs try to use the debt ceiling Obama has the option of closing down and laying off many of the employees in the executive branch. Yes it will hurt employees, but it will also shut down many of the functions that everyday people take for granted. Obama will correctly claim that the Constitution requires him to pay our creditors first and that he can't spend money that congress has authorized if they don't provide him either the revenue or the authority to borrow. McConnell has an out, since he now knows that the Dems have the votes in the Senate to raise the debt ceiling (and impose the McConnell rule - which he had to filibuster after Reid decided to allow a vote on it calling McConnell's bluff). McConnell and the Senate Republicans can simply not filibuster it and then vote present, leaving no senate republican fingerprints. At that point it's all on Boehner and the TPe'er's. He can do things like lay off the airport controllers in all of the smaller markets (mostly affecting red states), shut down the national parks, stop payments to the states for things like medicare, stop federal subsidies for infrastructure construction, etc.. This will be painful, but if he explains to the American public that he is constitutionally required to pay our debt before anything else, the blame will fall squarely on Boehner and the Radical Reactionaries. It will get quite ugly for them very quickly. We have to stop the repeated attempts by the Radical Reactionaries to hold our nation hostage to their demands.

let him come out with some facts to back up his threats