That's the line I paid attention to. If those who are 65-67 have to start paying for a private health care policy instead of contributing to Medicare, that weakens the program. It's also designed to automatically increase the retirement age to 67 because most people won't be able to afford the shit policies they'll be forced to buy if they retire at 65.

Durbin is one of the major players behind the scenes, discussing ways to raise the eligibility age and he's a major star in a video I'm working on that will expose all of the Democrats who want to see the same thing. Don't be fooled into believing anything else. He's been a snake throughout.

I live in Illinois. I have watched him go from a protege of the late, great Senator Simon to someone very self-serving. He has mixed in local and state politic in some very unwelcome ways. He has not been a good judge of people lately, promoting those who are friends rather than those who will do the best job.

Maybe he has been in office too long. We need a woman in that spot. I used to think that Sandy Jackson was a good candidate, but JJ Jr. has ruined that. Also, downstaters might not like it. Maybe Michelle Obama would be a better choice.

dirtbag who is trying to turn medicare and ultimately social security into welfare. He is in the top five of public enemies. Means testing will lead to more and more lowering incomes standards as to who can be accepted into social programs. This is the new fascist way: a ruse about not wanting to raise ages to collect social programs while implementing programs to rob all but the very poor of ANY social program. I hope the hell Sanders can see through horseshit. So time goes by and suddenly down the road our children and grandchildren are screwed because they earn too much (then at 30 grand yearly) to collect from social programs.

Personally, if the result is more or less the same I don't particularly care.

Let's take the healthiest of those paying Medicare premiums out of the system and give it to private insurance companies (if they can afford the higher premiums and shittier coverage.) That's the way to strengthen it!

You know it isn't the same or there would be no point in the conversation.

"I do believe there should be means testing. and those of us with higher income in retirement should pay more."

As for this:

"where does a person turn if they are 65 years of age and the medicare eligibility age is 67? They have two years there where they may not have the best of health. They need accessible, affordable medical insurance during that period."

Add Medicare to the exchanges, open it up to more people.

There is no other rational alternative. From the link:

Maybe we could get a nice, strong public option into the exchanges... You know, just sneak the damn thing in there.

the eligibility age to 60, so people can retire. Starting the "negotiations" way over by the Repuke side.

No age requirement at all. Make it part of the exchanges and let people pay the premiums to buy in to Medicare if they chose.

a lowering of the age as well. Medicare could easily be single payer. Eliminate the age, period. Allow all those who need it, buy into it.

are screwed. Once means testing takes over, that will be the ball game.

And say that (except for the Republicans who first thought of this idea), "The Republicans are so much worse."

and make it like Demark i think I herd who has the best health care system in the world

Many of that number are like me, older, shuffled out of our former careers and into low paying, low benefit jobs.

Absolutely no cuts to social security and Medicare. None. Zero. Nada.