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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDemocrats have a special unique way of saying "I'm full of shit"
"I don't know if I can vote for Clinton in 2016 if she's our nominee."
Anyone who says that doesn't have a solid grasp on the meaning of the word "our".
oasis
(49,429 posts)Get on board now. The Clinton's have the "know how".
Bucky
(54,087 posts)That's very "clever" of you
msongs
(67,462 posts)Salviati
(6,009 posts)If she wants the nomination, I'm sure she'll do her best to earn it. And if she does, I will vote for her with enthusiasm.
But in the meantime, we have 2014 to worry about. We have to try to break this fortress the republicans have built for themselves in the house.
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)2014 is what we need to be thinking about. Fielding and grooming candidates to help take back the house. Congressional districts are small enough that local involvement can truly make a difference.
oasis
(49,429 posts)Sarah Palin in terms of impact.
oasis
(49,429 posts)get real pilgrim.
marmar
(77,097 posts)...... she's not entitled to anything. If she wants to be the nominee, she needs to get out and earn it the old-fashioned way. There will be no coronation.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)If that isn't the basis, then the comparison is without merit.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)No one is "entitled" to be POTUS, but H. Clinton absolutely has more going for her than Ann Romney as far as that goes.
oasis
(49,429 posts)I was rebuking his assertion.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)And yes I agree with you.
thelordofhell
(4,569 posts)And people still will complain..........
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)I want to win. Period. I will support whichever Democrat gives us the best chance of winning. Period.
I was not a Hillary supporter in 2008, but as of right now I am.
Bucky
(54,087 posts)that big of a Clinton supporter. Oh, I think she's done a bang up job as SecState, but as hard as that job it, it's not a domestically divisive one. She's not been really mixing it up as a politician for the last four years. But the real problem with her is history. When Dems nominated young turks (Kennedy, Clinton, Obama) we win. When we go with old guard stalwarts (Kerry, Dukakis, Mondale) we lose. Unfair? Hell yes, as unfair as the rest of history is.
The point of my OP is that if... IF... Clinton is nominated all real Dems will fall in line. She's exceptionally well qualified for the job. Whoever (on DU) says they won't fall in line and support her is full of shit and can be safely ignored.
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)I thought that's why you made the OP.
The old guard statement has some truth, but I do think she's got a slightly different demographic edge than any of those candidates you mentioned that makes her unique. When I think of "old guard"....I think of our other front runner....Joe Biden.
HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)believe.
no more bush/clinton dynasties.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)I never thought Democrats would learn to mimic the "it's our turn" politics that exist on the right.
I thought we were Democrats. Not Republicans.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)Since she retired as SoS because her exercise routine was suffering.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/13/hillary-clinton-retirement-secretary-of-state_n_2118697.html
Bucky
(54,087 posts)She didn't leave her post at State b/c she wanted more treadmill time. That's not the kind of race she's interested in. Such comments, taking her words out of context and then twisting them into pretzels, make you look frivolous. She was saying from Day One she'd only hang around for Obama's first term. It's quite common (in fact, it's the norm) for SecStates to leave the job after or during the first term. She's a perfectly normal pol in that respect.
Her turn at State has won her a great deal of world and domestic respect. She's shown many skeptics that she's a woman of substance and political heft. Disputing her nearly flawless performance in charge of Obama's diplomacy does not reflect well on any opinionist.
adirondacker
(2,921 posts)seems to be a popular movement within the party even in the bluest of states...
http://www.theolympian.com/2012/12/10/2348726/2-dems-to-work-with-gop-to-control.html