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struggle4progress

(118,332 posts)
Mon Dec 10, 2012, 10:40 PM Dec 2012

Pot legalized in Colo. with gov's proclamation

By KRISTEN WYATT, Associated Press
Updated 4:18 p.m., Monday, December 10, 2012

DENVER (AP) — Marijuana for recreational use became legal in Colorado Monday, when the governor took a purposely low-key procedural step of declaring the voter-approved change part of the state constitution ...

Gov. John Hickenlooper, a Democrat, opposed the measure but had no veto power over the voter-approved amendment to the state constitution.

Hickenlooper tweeted his declaration Monday and sent an executive order to reporters by email after the fact. He told reporters he didn't want to make a big deal about the proclamation ...

http://www.seattlepi.com/news/us/article/Pot-legalized-in-Colo-with-gov-s-proclamation-4105864.php

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Pot legalized in Colo. with gov's proclamation (Original Post) struggle4progress Dec 2012 OP
Well, twist one up in celebration of this news. NYC_SKP Dec 2012 #1
Gov. John Hickenlooper, a Democrat, opposed the measure... Oldenuff Dec 2012 #2
They are all scared shitless of grasping onto this winning populist issue. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #4
And to celebrate a couple CU students fed their class pot brownies.... LittlestStar Dec 2012 #3
Would you suggest prison for them? Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #5
Not prison but more like 100 hours of forced volunteering for a substance abuse treatment center LittlestStar Dec 2012 #6
Marijuana has been shown to do no such thing, but again Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #7
Yes, same punishment. And I don't know why you are refusing to admit the schizophrenia LittlestStar Dec 2012 #8
a couple of paragraphs from the times article: niyad Dec 2012 #10
You are mistaking correlation with causation. morningfog Dec 2012 #14
could you please provide the links for your assertions about the schizophrenia-marijuana link? niyad Dec 2012 #9
What part of "ms sister is schizophrenic now because of potheads" didn't you get? LittlestStar Dec 2012 #12
I'm sorry about your sister, but anecdotal evidence is not persuasive. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #13
I posted that BEFORE I saw your post about your sister. and, having read the article that niyad Dec 2012 #19
Real research LittlestStar Dec 2012 #11
Those that wish to dictate what we do with our bodies are the kRaZiEs with the R's TheKentuckian Dec 2012 #18
again, I will point out that I asked that question before I saw your post with the link. but then, niyad Dec 2012 #20
Except you have no ground to say it was "to celebrate" and was before the law was in effect. morningfog Dec 2012 #15
There's never any excuse for drugging somebody else as a form of recreation struggle4progress Dec 2012 #21
Recommend! Great work Colorado! morningfog Dec 2012 #16
South American nation of Uruguay legalized pot too! B Calm Dec 2012 #17
 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
1. Well, twist one up in celebration of this news.
Mon Dec 10, 2012, 10:56 PM
Dec 2012

Not for me, mind you. I don't toke, but I am delighted by the news.

 

Oldenuff

(582 posts)
2. Gov. John Hickenlooper, a Democrat, opposed the measure...
Mon Dec 10, 2012, 11:02 PM
Dec 2012


I don't even know what to say about the Governor being opposed to the measure.What are our elected officials thinking?????????

LittlestStar

(224 posts)
3. And to celebrate a couple CU students fed their class pot brownies....
Mon Dec 10, 2012, 11:05 PM
Dec 2012

actually that was last Friday. What a stupid thing to do, and make all the anti-pot people even more paranoid. I hope those kids get seriously punished.

http://www.nbc11news.com/localnews/headlines/CU-students-feed-pot-brownies-to-class-teacher-182767251.html

LittlestStar

(224 posts)
6. Not prison but more like 100 hours of forced volunteering for a substance abuse treatment center
Mon Dec 10, 2012, 11:31 PM
Dec 2012

and also a mental hospital. Marijuana has been shown to trigger schizophrenia in people who have predisposing genes. It should not be fucked with unknowingly. I don't care if somebody wants to smoke pot, but it is sick to spike people's food with it.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
7. Marijuana has been shown to do no such thing, but again
Mon Dec 10, 2012, 11:43 PM
Dec 2012

would you suggest the same punishment for spiking the punch?

LittlestStar

(224 posts)
8. Yes, same punishment. And I don't know why you are refusing to admit the schizophrenia
Mon Dec 10, 2012, 11:59 PM
Dec 2012

link when there is so much evidence for it. I bet you are one of those "pot is not as bad as alcohol" people.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/07/marijuana-schizophrenia_n_819936.html

I have a sister who was given weed at 13, became majorly addicted, and is now on disability for scizophrenia and has been since age 30. Do not lecture me on your "pot is harmless and there is no proof it does harm" bullshit.

niyad

(113,546 posts)
10. a couple of paragraphs from the times article:
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 12:08 AM
Dec 2012

Drugs
Marijuana Linked with Earlier Onset of Schizophrenia in Research Review


Many studies have linked marijuana use with early onset of psychosis. The question is, does smoking marijuana cause earlier psychosis? A new review of 83 studies involving more than 22,000 participants seeks an answer.
The meta-analysis found that people who smoked marijuana developed psychotic disorders an average 2.7 years earlier than people who did not use cannabis. But the review also found that people who used any illegal drug suffered psychosis two years earlier than non-users, not a large difference.

While alcohol use was not associated with early onset, the studies reviewed could not rule out the influence of cigarette smoking, which is a common habit of people with psychotic disorders and those who smoke marijuana. In many of the countries from which the data was gathered, in fact, cannabis is typically smoked mixed with tobacco. The researchers argue that cigarette smoking—unlike marijuana— does not worsen hallucinations or paranoia in patients with schizophrenia, so they believe that tobacco does not account for earlier onset.

. . . . . .

In the new review, researchers also cite studies linking a particular gene to sensitivity to cannabis, which could help explain why most marijuana smokers don’t have a higher risk of schizophrenia, and why even many people with schizophrenia do not have earlier onset connected with cannabis use.

Still, none of the data linking marijuana use and psychosis can prove causality or sufficiently explain why rates of schizophrenia have remained stable or even declined since the 1950s, while marijuana use has increased exponentially. Unlike rates of cigarette smoking and lung cancer, which rise in tandem, marijuana smoking rates in the population do not correlate with higher rates of schizophrenia.

Read more: http://healthland.time.com/2011/02/07/marijuana-linked-with-earlier-onset-of-schizophrenia-in-research-review/#ixzz2EiFnSDmM

niyad

(113,546 posts)
9. could you please provide the links for your assertions about the schizophrenia-marijuana link?
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 12:00 AM
Dec 2012

would like to show it to my friends in the mmj industry.

and 100 hour community service? really? I know drunk drivers who injured people who didn't get that much time. has someone you know been injured by marijuana users?

LittlestStar

(224 posts)
12. What part of "ms sister is schizophrenic now because of potheads" didn't you get?
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 12:26 AM
Dec 2012

Yes, I obviously know people somebody who was permanently disabled from it. I also spent 5 years trying to get my husband off the shit.

niyad

(113,546 posts)
19. I posted that BEFORE I saw your post about your sister. and, having read the article that
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 01:19 AM
Dec 2012

was linked through the huffpo one, it states that marijuana and other drugs speed up the onset, they do not cause it.

I am sorry about your sister, but, according to the research you yourself quoted, there were obviously some other things going on.

LittlestStar

(224 posts)
11. Real research
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 12:24 AM
Dec 2012
http://www.schizophrenia.com/prevention/streetdrugs.html

"Researchers in New Zealand found that those who used cannabis by the age of 15 were more than three times (300%) more likely to develop illnesses such as schizophrenia. Other research has backed this up, showing that cannabis use increases the risk of psychosis by up to 700% for heavy users, and that the risk increases in proportion to the amount of cannabis used (smoked or consumed). Additionally, the younger a person smokes/uses cannabis, the higher the risk for schizophrenia, and the worse the schizophrenia is when the person does develop it. Research by psychiatrists in inner-city areas speak of cannabis being a factor in up to 80 percent of schizophrenia cases."

Seriously, Niyad, I am sure your peeps in the marijuana industry had no say in the study. And you are not biased at all. And I do know people who have been killed by drunks in car accidents.

TheKentuckian

(25,029 posts)
18. Those that wish to dictate what we do with our bodies are the kRaZiEs with the R's
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 01:14 AM
Dec 2012

Thank you for your attention.

niyad

(113,546 posts)
20. again, I will point out that I asked that question before I saw your post with the link. but then,
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 01:25 AM
Dec 2012

I also read the article (the one huffpo linked to).

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
15. Except you have no ground to say it was "to celebrate" and was before the law was in effect.
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 12:34 AM
Dec 2012

It was a stupid thing to do, but was a crime unrelated to legalization.

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