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Rachel Maddow last night - Conservatives riddled with scams - MUST SEE (Original Post) malaise Dec 2012 OP
wow greymattermom Dec 2012 #1
Well I suspect Bill Kristol is fed up malaise Dec 2012 #3
I wonder if he realizes he's on the same gravy train? JHB Dec 2012 #19
Wake me up when it is layed out somewhere other than MSNBC Cosmocat Dec 2012 #16
Slimy, slimy, slimy comes immediately to mind madokie Dec 2012 #2
Yes she does malaise Dec 2012 #4
They don't call it "Wingnut Welfare" for nothing Fumesucker Dec 2012 #5
For real - we should name them all malaise Dec 2012 #6
They put the "con" in "conservative." merrily Dec 2012 #7
Wow - Republicans down the slime hole Berlum Dec 2012 #8
Watched that segment last night. I believe Bill Kristol hit the nail on the head, but has Frank Rich spicegal Dec 2012 #9
this was fascinating blue_heron Dec 2012 #10
Except that it is likely legal quaker bill Dec 2012 #17
Holy Moly, Mother of God... ReRe Dec 2012 #11
The Murdoch Hypocrisy is at the root of this and continues to grow. Ford_Prefect Dec 2012 #12
I'll be sure to watch this when I get home. (no text) Quantess Dec 2012 #13
HAHa! Quantess Dec 2012 #20
I asked months ago how Mitt Romney could profit from his campaign. tclambert Dec 2012 #14
Rachel Maddow is the First Lady of Explaining Things. ancianita Dec 2012 #15
Every fuggin' sphere is infested with these scumbags malaise Dec 2012 #18
The problem for Kristol is that movement conservatism was *always* a scam starroute Dec 2012 #21
video seems to no longer be there...anyone else not seeing it? nashville_brook Dec 2012 #22

JHB

(37,161 posts)
19. I wonder if he realizes he's on the same gravy train?
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 09:31 AM
Dec 2012

He's at the "respectable" aristocratic end of it instead of the unalloyed grifter end, but he really is in the same business.

Cosmocat

(14,572 posts)
16. Wake me up when it is layed out somewhere other than MSNBC
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 08:03 AM
Dec 2012

If CNN lays it out, if the broadcast news or 60 minutes lays it out ...

Rachel put out the truth WE know, speaking to US.

The moment the whores we call the "liberal press" start to speak to this regularly, we can start to get excited.

spicegal

(758 posts)
9. Watched that segment last night. I believe Bill Kristol hit the nail on the head, but has Frank Rich
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 07:17 AM
Dec 2012

noted, a big part of the problem is Fox. Since Kristol works for Fox, he's not going to bite the hand that feeds him. Sadly, folks who watch Fox still haven't figured out they're being scammed.

blue_heron

(223 posts)
10. this was fascinating
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 07:34 AM
Dec 2012

I hit re-wind on DVR and watched it again. Really, someone needs to be charging them with fraud....

quaker bill

(8,224 posts)
17. Except that it is likely legal
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 08:08 AM
Dec 2012

I am pretty sure that the laws on these are broad enough to allow all this stuff, and more.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
11. Holy Moly, Mother of God...
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 07:36 AM
Dec 2012

...so what now? Are these scam artists going to be held accountable for this? I'm tired of being told about all the scamming in this country, from Wall Street to former winger politicians who work for FOX. Are these guys, too, going to get off without a whisper? By golly, we've got us a rogue nation here. Yeah, it's a racket. A Rico racket, if you ask me. Can you imagine if anything like what we've experienced in the last 12 yrs had happened back in that hallowed decade of the 1970s? This stuff makes Nixon look like an angel.
"We hang the petty thieves, and appoint the great ones to public office."---Aesop

Ford_Prefect

(7,918 posts)
12. The Murdoch Hypocrisy is at the root of this and continues to grow.
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 07:38 AM
Dec 2012

The only reason for FOX news and its affiliates is as a means of hyping. The only reason it exists is to recreate the motivations and fears that drive selling Murdoch's false narrative in other forms and the "cures" for them.

Snake oil never sold so well. Billions sold every day.

tclambert

(11,087 posts)
14. I asked months ago how Mitt Romney could profit from his campaign.
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 07:45 AM
Dec 2012

I suspect the vulture capitalist in him found a way to divert a lot of campaign money into his offshore accounts. It should be no surprise that money-loving Republican political operatives were trying to profit from their politics.

Stephen Colbert had a bit on his show on how Super PACs could take their left-over funds and transfer them to subsidiaries to do anything--ANYTHING--the organizer wants (including buying personal luxuries), and do it tax-free.

ancianita

(36,132 posts)
15. Rachel Maddow is the First Lady of Explaining Things.
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 07:49 AM
Dec 2012

She's hitting on a major framing of all kinds of profit-driven enterprises, but she's just scratching the surface of scamming machinery.

Her "Cause devolves to Business devolves to Racket" argument could be made about the military, as well.

This is what is meant by CONservatism. Short con = politics. Long con = religion.

The Protection Racket is the oldest confidence game in human history.

starroute

(12,977 posts)
21. The problem for Kristol is that movement conservatism was *always* a scam
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 03:12 PM
Dec 2012

I've been interested in right-wing direct-mail fundraising scams since 2004, when there was a lot of discussion of them here at DU. I recently read an interesting analysis of the whole sorry history of the method and its growing entanglement with mainstream GOP politics:
http://www.thebaffler.com/past/the_long_con

The short version is that conservatives appear to be uniquely gullible -- especially when you play on their deep-seated fears of anything strange or different -- and that the con artists have traveled with them every step of the way.

What may be changing now, though, is that the scamming seems to be getting more respectable, to the point where everyone from former presidential candidates to prominent right-wing bloggers thinks nothing of getting into the "Send me money because AMERICA!" game.

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