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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 05:31 PM Dec 2012

Krugman: Delusions of Wisdom

Delusions of Wisdom

Both Jonathan Chait and Charles Pierce have a field day with a Politico piece titled, without a hint of irony, Crafting a boom economy. In said piece they talk to various Very Serious People, and divine the insider consensus on What Must Be Done — which mainly seems to involve, naturally, cutting Social Security and Medicare while reducing corporate tax rates.

What I find remarkable about this piece is that after everything that has happened these past five years or so, Jim VandeHei and Mike Allen still take it for granted that these people actually know what they’re talking about; the whole premise of the article is that the insiders really do have the key, not just to good policy, but to achieving a dramatic rise in the growth rate.

Now, they don’t tell us everyone they talked to; but I think we can safely assume that, with few exceptions, the insiders in question:

- Believed that financial deregulation was a great idea, because bankers had really learned to manage risk
- Did not believe that there was a housing bubble
- Insisted that budget deficits, even in a depressed economy, would send interest rates soaring any day now
- Insisted that austerity measures would promote recovery, not hurt it, because of the confidence fairy

And on and on.

There are some remarkable economic assertions in here. That great economist Jeb Bush — yes, Jeb Bush — is quoted as declaring that ending structural deficits would boost the growth rate hugely; this would come as news to any economist I know. And, um, aren’t our structural deficits largely the result of his brother’s policies?

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http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/12/11/delusions-of-wisdom/

"That great economist Jeb Bush "



Bump in the Road for Jeb?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021960054


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Krugman: Delusions of Wisdom (Original Post) ProSense Dec 2012 OP
I wish I could kiss Paul Krugman! He is such a blessing to this country. CTyankee Dec 2012 #1
Krugman ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #2
How can you tell a confidence fairy from a confidence man? Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #3
Idiocy JackHughes Dec 2012 #4
Krugman -- a good writer and brilliant! K&R JDPriestly Dec 2012 #5
Krugman may or may not be the best but he is by far the best Econ with media exposure. byeya Dec 2012 #6
And he's gotten so much better over the years! Orrex Dec 2012 #8
Krugman is at the top of the heap in both knowledge and influence in his sphere byeya Dec 2012 #10
loved his sarcasm on Jeb- the great economist wilt the stilt Dec 2012 #7
It's becoming classic Krugman. ProSense Dec 2012 #11
I think John2 Dec 2012 #9

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
1. I wish I could kiss Paul Krugman! He is such a blessing to this country.
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 05:37 PM
Dec 2012

It is wonderful to have his voice...

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
2. Krugman ...
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 05:42 PM
Dec 2012

You nailed it in one sentence:

The whole theme of the Politico piece is that great things would happen if only the insiders could override all this messy democracy stuff.


It was the REAL fight of the 2012 Presidential election and proves that the fight is not over.

JackHughes

(166 posts)
4. Idiocy
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 06:37 PM
Dec 2012

It's like bank robbers advising that removing money from the safety of the locked vaults would really help the economy.

 

byeya

(2,842 posts)
6. Krugman may or may not be the best but he is by far the best Econ with media exposure.
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 07:15 PM
Dec 2012

I find him sound and a standard Keynesian - which this capitalist country needs badly now if it's to remain capitalist - but I really admire him for speaking bluntly to the inane insiders of DC. He started out trying to see both sides but quickly found out the other side had no serious "side" and were vituperative to boot.
He learned from experience and has been on the offensive since. So...Bravo.

Orrex

(63,223 posts)
8. And he's gotten so much better over the years!
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 07:21 PM
Dec 2012

I recall a decade or so ago that I used to dread his media appearances, because he invariably seemed scared and uncertain, which was a real shame considering that his message was typically spot-on. His delivery and screen presence, however, made it seem like he didn't know what he was talking about.

Fast forward to today, when he can mop the floor with his rhetorical opponents. A great improvement!

 

byeya

(2,842 posts)
10. Krugman is at the top of the heap in both knowledge and influence in his sphere
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 08:22 PM
Dec 2012

of economics.
I don't have a tv but I can say his writing has become more focused and timely as the ignorant attacks on him have intensified. He's smart, knowledgable and brave.

 

wilt the stilt

(4,528 posts)
7. loved his sarcasm on Jeb- the great economist
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 07:15 PM
Dec 2012

hey he took macro and micro in college at the 200 level. He knows what he is talking about.

 

John2

(2,730 posts)
9. I think
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 07:52 PM
Dec 2012

any educated and intelligent person can see his logic is sound. You don't have to be an economist to see that. The other side is just pandering to wealth. None of the proposals they pander to, affect them at all. It makes you cringe, every time you listen to their nonsense. It is really insulting to our intelligence. Especially with those in the media, lecturing to the rest of the country, as if we are morons.

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