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Congress Created the National Debt. Remember? (Original Post) riqster Dec 2012 OP
In 2008 the cliff was a crisis, who paid then, who pays now ? orpupilofnature57 Dec 2012 #1
Their salaries should be cut riverbendviewgal Dec 2012 #2
I've felt that way for some time riqster Dec 2012 #9
Yes and no. Igel Dec 2012 #3
The '00s saw one person got their way, using the word " person " loosely . orpupilofnature57 Dec 2012 #7
No, it takes two to tango. former9thward Dec 2012 #4
Listening to Congress, though riqster Dec 2012 #5
There should be more vetoes. former9thward Dec 2012 #6
Yep, he tried to play waaay too nice, for waaaay too long riqster Dec 2012 #8

riqster

(13,986 posts)
9. I've felt that way for some time
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 09:51 PM
Dec 2012

Simple remedy: dock their pay for any time they spend on party activities (instead of working for us).

Igel

(35,323 posts)
3. Yes and no.
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 08:54 PM
Dec 2012

Checks and balances, remember?

One recent Congress couldn't muster a supermajority to override a theatened presidential veto to increases to his proposed budget.

In most of the '00s what happened was that the president proposed something and Congress appended more stuff to it. Pretty much everybody got their way. Spendy, that.

former9thward

(32,030 posts)
4. No, it takes two to tango.
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 09:03 PM
Dec 2012

Congress passes bills and the President signs them. Both are responsible for the debt.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
5. Listening to Congress, though
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 09:09 PM
Dec 2012

...you'd think they had nothing to do with it. And a veto is a tool that Prexies must use with caution.

former9thward

(32,030 posts)
6. There should be more vetoes.
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 09:13 PM
Dec 2012

FDR had the most (635) and he didn't do too bad. Obama has only had 2 in four years.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
8. Yep, he tried to play waaay too nice, for waaaay too long
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 09:48 PM
Dec 2012

Hope he's learned his lesson. But that's a topic for another blog post.

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