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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTeamsters President Warns Of Brewing ‘Civil War’ In Michigan
The fight over union rights in Michigan has some peoples blood absolutely boiling, and Teamsters Union President James Hoffa is chief among them.
This is just the first round of a battle thats going to divide this state, Hoffa told CNN on Tuesday. Were going to have a civil war in this state because this has been passed by a lame duck legislature.
Michigan, which has been strongly pro-union since the founding of the United Autoworkers Union in 1935, became on Tuesday a so-called right to work state, which means workers are not required to pay union dues. Republicans in the statehouse passed the bills this week surrounded by angry protesters outside the Capitol.
There was no debate, Hoffa insisted. This was done in five days, it was not approved by the people of the state of Michigan. If anything, it should have been on the ballot. This was a monumental decision to make and for it to be done by outgoing senators and state legislators is a tremendous mistake. What they are doing here is basically betraying democracy. If theres any question here, lets put it on the ballot, let the people of Michigan decide whats good for Michigan.
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fascisthunter
(29,381 posts)awwwww.... poor,poor richie poo suck-up.
teamster633
(2,029 posts)Odin2005
(53,521 posts)...on another forum I frequent.
socialist_n_TN
(11,481 posts)Fucking scabs.
TheKentuckian
(25,026 posts)awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)and we have been losing it for 30 years.
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)doc03
(35,354 posts)some SOB lays you off and sends your job to China? What about when some SOB locks you out of your job for 10 1/2 months? What about some SOB that does the same work as you gets paid the same and has all the benefits of a union and refuses to pay dues? What about the Pinkertons that busted peoples heads and shot them because they went on strike. What about the US government sending in the National Guard when we tried organizing unions? Is that violence?
Flatulo
(5,005 posts)in the dictionary.
I wish I did have union protections, but engineers in the private sector are rarely if ever organized.
doc03
(35,354 posts)two lockouts 100 days and 10 1/2 months, had a DB pension dropped on the PBGC and another DC pension terminated and my health insurance was terminated in September. Luckily I can get Medicare early next year. My plant shut down during the Bush depression and is probably going to be melted down for scrap.
Flatulo
(5,005 posts)and I worked hard to put away a bunch of money. Plus I bought a shitty little house and paid it off after 10 years. I'll survive, but barely.
proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)Brigid
(17,621 posts)Do I smell pizza?
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)Comrade_McKenzie
(2,526 posts)Odin2005
(53,521 posts)To all the RW fuck-turds who rant about "union thugs", GO TO HELL.
Politicub
(12,165 posts)They are smashing dreams of union workers being able to give their kids a better life.
They're putting families on the street by removing the ability to pay for rent and mortgages.
The term overreach was invented for a reason.
I hope the GOP reaps the whirlwind.
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)get away with it.
Lady Freedom Returns
(14,120 posts)I grew up around those guys. They mean what the say.
BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)eShirl
(18,495 posts)decades
adirondacker
(2,921 posts)priceless.
haven't seen it in a while and seems so appropriate.
Cha
(297,378 posts)Rights and Lives are being fucked with. You don't forget that.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101786053
Resonance_Chamber
(142 posts)Lots of people are very upset about this yet which is understandable but IMHO it is mostly lip service.
When the question was asked yesterday ....How many here own or lease a union made car?....the vast majority of respondants BAD mouthed the union companies to justify the scab built purchase they made. Which is thier right and choice howver if you calim to suport workers you also have to actually do it.
The purahace or non union made products undermines union workers.
DiverDave
(4,886 posts)Just give out the call I can be there in 14 hours
GermanSmoker
(91 posts)To force people to pay union fees when they are not even members? Before i heard a few years ago about "Right to work laws" and so on i always thought only members had to pay. I would be suprised if this happens anywhere outside the USA.
Ok talk is easy for me cause i live in a country that has universal healthcare since the 19th century. So in my opinion the introduction of FDR's "Second Bill of Rights" would benefit workers way more than any union can.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)But there is no way Congress could or would adopt it in the current political climate in the United States.
As for forcing people to pay union dues if they decide to take a job at a closed shop (all unionized workers), that's entirely legal here, and it makes good sense. Nobody is "forced" to pay union dues in the United States. If a person agrees to accept employment at a closed shop, that person is agreeing to pay union dues. If that person does not want to pay union dues, that person is free to not accept employment at a closed shop.
-Laelth