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The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 08:29 AM Dec 2012

Outrage results after school officials force girl to remove word from veteran's poem

Outrage results after school officials force girl to remove word from veteran's poem

MCDOWELL COUNTY, N.C. — Some parents and students are outraged after McDowell County School Officials forced a 6-year-old girl to remove the word God from a poem honoring veterans in her family.

Those parents packed a board meeting to speak out.

More than 100 people filled the McDowell County School Board meeting in support of the girl and the poem that she recited at her school last month with two references to God.

"He prayed to God for strength, he prayed to God for peace," the poem read.

The West Marion Elementary School student was preparing for a Veterans Day program when she read her poem, but it was soon edited by the superintendent to remove the word God.

http://www.wsoctv.com/news/news/local/outrage-results-after-school-officials-force-girl-/nTMCd/

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Outrage results after school officials force girl to remove word from veteran's poem (Original Post) The Straight Story Dec 2012 OP
To many people God is important and real madokie Dec 2012 #1
WTF is wrong with people? deutsey Dec 2012 #2
I'm an atheist but ... Seriously? DetlefK Dec 2012 #3
So the kids say "under God" every day in the Pledge of Allegiance, Nye Bevan Dec 2012 #4
That was a really dumb move by the superintendent. The poem was not a prayer.... OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #5
Moronic School Superintendent! MineralMan Dec 2012 #6
brilliant, a rightwing provocation! pretzel4gore Dec 2012 #7
Oh noes! 99Forever Dec 2012 #8
Where did you get the idea the superintendant is an Atheist? ieoeja Dec 2012 #9
Or even more rare, the Christian who finds wars of choice & torture objectionable. nt raouldukelives Dec 2012 #11
Honestly? 99Forever Dec 2012 #12
Against stupidity ... dawg Dec 2012 #10
Seriously? It's like the superintendent is trying to get people to hate atheists. Pacafishmate Dec 2012 #13
I think this superintendent is misunderstanding the separation of church and state issue gollygee Dec 2012 #14

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
4. So the kids say "under God" every day in the Pledge of Allegiance,
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 10:26 AM
Dec 2012

but a 6 year old girl cannot say "prayed to God" in a Veterans Day poem?

Amazing and stupid.

OldDem2012

(3,526 posts)
5. That was a really dumb move by the superintendent. The poem was not a prayer....
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 10:32 AM
Dec 2012

....and therefore, the use of the word "God" in any other reading or discussion is not prohibited by any Federal or state law of which I'm aware.

MineralMan

(146,318 posts)
6. Moronic School Superintendent!
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 10:36 AM
Dec 2012

I'm an atheist, but I'm not offended by the word God used to describe what this kid's grandfather did. How stupid.

 

pretzel4gore

(8,146 posts)
7. brilliant, a rightwing provocation!
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 10:55 AM
Dec 2012

watching how the reactionarky press has neutered the people, i betcha that the goof who makes anti god moves in public is a reactionarky sympthathiser....and the rightwing wins again! imagine WHAT oreally and rush limbah-humbug etc SAY when this 'anti american' story breaks into news cycle!
betcha ya didn't know the people who destroyed the GREAT LIBRARY at Alexandria (AD 500 about) were a christian mob under directions of the bishop of Alexandria! Just a detail from hushstory, which the xian media has somehow kept hidden (EVEN FROM ME! though i've read ten thousand books!)
daMN FASCISTS, THEY'S SO SMART!

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
8. Oh noes!
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 11:01 AM
Dec 2012

A radical atheist does something rather dumb and the fundies go fucking nuts over it.


Ever notice how much insane bullshit comes out of churchie people that gets barely a whisper?


Selective outrage, another rightie (and apparently leftie now) family value.



 

ieoeja

(9,748 posts)
9. Where did you get the idea the superintendant is an Atheist?
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 11:15 AM
Dec 2012

Just as likely scenarios:

- Christian who honestly beliefs the school will get in trouble if the unedited poem were read at school assembly

- Catholic sick of being the target of bigotry in the Bible Belt; until fairly recently Roman Catholics, not Atheists, were the most frequent plaintifs in Church/State Separation cases

- Radical Christian provocatuer; a few years back in Vincennes, Indiana, a woman with the government agency handling public housing informed residents that they could not put up Christmas decorations in their apartments; the agency fired her upon learning of her actions, and it was discovered that she was a member of a Radical Religious Right group who did this just to get people angry.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
12. Honestly?
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 01:24 PM
Dec 2012

I don't care what his reasons are. I don't care if he's an Atheist or not. That was not the point of what I was trying to say. I was commenting concerning selective outrage, is all.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
14. I think this superintendent is misunderstanding the separation of church and state issue
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 01:58 PM
Dec 2012

It isn't that the word "God" can't be uttered on school property. It is that the school, as a state institution, can't lead a prayer of any particular relgion, or establish a religion in any way. But a student can recite a poem she chose herself that includes a reference to a religion. That isn't school-led; it's coming from a student. I don't see why this is a problem. But the community needs to understand that if an Islamic student chose to recite a poem that mentions Allah, it is the same thing and equally OK. If they wouldn't be OK with that, they need to check their thought process.

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