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still_one

(92,273 posts)
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 08:45 AM Dec 2012

New Hampshire police Taser Chinese woman who tried to buy too many iPhones.

Police in Nashua, New Hampshire say they were forced to use a Taser on a 44-year-old Chinese woman who does not speak English after she was told to leave an Apple Store because she was trying to buy too many iPhones.

Through a translator, Xiaojie Li told WMUR that she had bought two iPhones from the Pheasant Lane Mall Apple Store on Friday and returned on Tuesday to buy more to send to her family in China.

“The manager of the Apple Store came and told her something, but she didn’t understand,” Li’s daughter explained.


"Soon after that, shoppers captured cell phone video of police — who were providing security at the store’s request — using a stun gun on Li as she laid on the mall floor screaming.

“My mom said she doesn’t know why they called the police because she doesn’t understand what they are talking about,” the woman’s daughter insisted to WMUR.

Nashua police are reviewing the incident to determine if excessive force was used, but said that use of the Taser was standard operating procedure.

“She was certainly capable of coming up here and purchasing these things from the Apple Store here,” Capt. Bruce Hansen insisted. “Whether her language inhibited that, I really don’t know.”

“Our force continuum has specific times when a Taser is used during resisting arrest or that type of an incident where a person doesn’t comply with a lawful order to submit to an arrest,” he added. “This really is a criminal trespass, resisting arrest incident, and that’s fairly routine here.”


http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/12/12/new-hampshire-police-taser-chinese-woman-who-tried-to-buy-too-many-iphones/


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New Hampshire police Taser Chinese woman who tried to buy too many iPhones. (Original Post) still_one Dec 2012 OP
so apple does not like selling too many phones to one person? How weird is that. CBGLuthier Dec 2012 #1
What bothers me is that police felt compelled to use a taser. There is something rotten here, and still_one Dec 2012 #3
Me too sandyshoes17 Dec 2012 #5
Even if that is so, I find it quite difficult that they felt they needed mace to do it /nt still_one Dec 2012 #6
It sounds like they were leftynyc Dec 2012 #12
Have the police never heard of Google translate? It would have been easy to type it in and DaniDubois Dec 2012 #27
Seems the store understood her fine when she bought the first 2 phones. dixiegrrrrl Dec 2012 #29
just another state to which I will never go. nt MrYikes Dec 2012 #2
Unfortunately the list is getting larger /nt still_one Dec 2012 #4
A two hundred dollar IPhone, costs around eight hundred in China siligut Dec 2012 #7
and that was my only point, macing her was not only unnecessary but maybe racial still_one Dec 2012 #8
Why is it illegal? You pay what it costs. It's yours. mainer Dec 2012 #17
Maybe Samsung has a big say in the matter? siligut Dec 2012 #26
What did the manager of the Apple Store tell her? jsr Dec 2012 #9
Don't know, but was mace necessary? still_one Dec 2012 #10
I want to know why Apple called the cops on her jsr Dec 2012 #11
good points still_one Dec 2012 #14
article said that police were there at Apple's request lapislzi Dec 2012 #19
Public cops, protecting private profits leftstreet Dec 2012 #31
Oh, I get it all right. lapislzi Dec 2012 #32
taser HiPointDem Dec 2012 #35
Barbaric. forestpath Dec 2012 #13
Huh? lapislzi Dec 2012 #15
She had ordered two more iPhones online and came to store to pick them up mainer Dec 2012 #16
iphones are part of the problem datasuspect Dec 2012 #18
No, the problem here is that Occulus Dec 2012 #20
in a police state, yes datasuspect Dec 2012 #22
why are police providing security at the apple store?! frylock Dec 2012 #21
lots of cops take side jobs datasuspect Dec 2012 #23
yes, police often work as security guards.. frylock Dec 2012 #24
apple's got it like that? datasuspect Dec 2012 #25
Is there a large sign in the store SheilaT Dec 2012 #28
Tasers were supposed to be alternatives to shooting criminal suspects, NOT for petty misdemeanors GiaGiovanni Dec 2012 #30
Evil november3rd Dec 2012 #33
Disgusting police behavior Neutrino_603 Dec 2012 #34
Looks like I won't be going back to New England's suburbian Grand Cayman anytime soon. (NT) Heywood J Dec 2012 #36

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
1. so apple does not like selling too many phones to one person? How weird is that.
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 08:50 AM
Dec 2012

Just part of the joy of buying apple products I guess. Me, I like companies that let me do things with what i buy and don't have me tased when I try to buy more.

Oh well.

Fanboys alight.

still_one

(92,273 posts)
3. What bothers me is that police felt compelled to use a taser. There is something rotten here, and
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 08:55 AM
Dec 2012

it points to excessive force.

sandyshoes17

(657 posts)
5. Me too
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 09:27 AM
Dec 2012

It said its used for resisting arrest or failure to submit to arrest. Why was she going to be arrested??

 

DaniDubois

(154 posts)
27. Have the police never heard of Google translate? It would have been easy to type it in and
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 02:38 PM
Dec 2012

let the woman read it in her language. Were the police not smart enough to do it this way, or did they just not want to? Either way it's a bad sign for all of us. They should only be allowed to use excessive force when their lives are in danger - same law the rest of us live by.

siligut

(12,272 posts)
7. A two hundred dollar IPhone, costs around eight hundred in China
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 10:36 AM
Dec 2012

It has to do with market-share. IIRC, you can't bring IPhones to China to sell, but I am not sure where gifting them would fall. So perhaps what she was doing is illegal. I agree though that tasering her was unnecessary.

mainer

(12,022 posts)
17. Why is it illegal? You pay what it costs. It's yours.
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 01:00 PM
Dec 2012

The illegality, I'd think, would be with the Chinese government and imports, not with the US government.

Canadians used to cross into the US all the time to buy things at cheaper prices. We didn't limit what they could purchase.

siligut

(12,272 posts)
26. Maybe Samsung has a big say in the matter?
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 02:05 PM
Dec 2012

I am not sure. What I know is that when I was in China in 2010, my IPhone 4 got a lot of attention and I was told about the pricing then. That is where my impression is from. I was only trying to understand why that dear, Chinese woman was treated so horribly by police and APPL employees. I don't know the actual facts about import laws.

jsr

(7,712 posts)
11. I want to know why Apple called the cops on her
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 12:24 PM
Dec 2012

And no, the cop is scum. "Nothing out of the ordinary," my ass.

lapislzi

(5,762 posts)
19. article said that police were there at Apple's request
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 01:19 PM
Dec 2012

Providing store security. Apple stores get very, very crowded. I have never been to the mall and *not* seen the Apple store mobbed with people. But I have never seen a police presence in one. Maybe mall security outside the store when a new product is released, just to keep the line orderly.

Why police presence was required instead of store or mall security is another matter.

leftstreet

(36,109 posts)
31. Public cops, protecting private profits
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 03:55 PM
Dec 2012

That's fucked up

But retailers don't like paying for private security, or the huge loss from lawsuits that follow

lapislzi

(5,762 posts)
15. Huh?
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 12:52 PM
Dec 2012

Has anyone reading this story noted the time/event lapse between the woman entering the store and speaking to the employee/manager and the tasering? What happened?

How do we know/who says she was "trying to buy too many iPhones?" That makes no sense.

There is absolutely no context between her exchange with store personnel and the arrest. What did the manager say? Was the manager so dense that he/she didn't realize that the customer could not communicate in English? Where was the daughter? What the heck? On the floor screaming? Before or after the tasering?

Something is not right in this story.

mainer

(12,022 posts)
16. She had ordered two more iPhones online and came to store to pick them up
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 12:59 PM
Dec 2012

So does that mean she'd already paid for them online? I'd get pretty peeved if I couldn't collect a product I'd ordered online.

Occulus

(20,599 posts)
20. No, the problem here is that
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 01:23 PM
Dec 2012

"Nashua police are reviewing the incident to determine if excessive force was used, but said that use of the Taser was standard operating procedure."

Standard operating procedure? The use of a device upon those not even actually arrested yet, a device known to "oops" and occasionally kill those it's used on, is standard operating procedure?

 

datasuspect

(26,591 posts)
22. in a police state, yes
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 01:29 PM
Dec 2012

we put up with it, we get what we deserve.

if people got up off their asses, stopped getting distracted by consumer electronics and television, and FORCE the government to be afraid of the PEOPLE, we wouldn't have these problems.

law enforcement should always have the consent of those who are policed.

right now, it's all strong arm bullshit with the threat of arrest to keep everyone in compliance.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
24. yes, police often work as security guards..
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 01:35 PM
Dec 2012

however, that is not what the article stated. it explicitly says "...police — who were providing security at the store’s request..." not off-duty police officers working for a private security agency.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
28. Is there a large sign in the store
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 03:10 PM
Dec 2012

saying something like, Only 2 iphones per customer?

Usually when quantities are limited, there are signs about that.

There is something off about this story.

 

GiaGiovanni

(1,247 posts)
30. Tasers were supposed to be alternatives to shooting criminal suspects, NOT for petty misdemeanors
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 03:52 PM
Dec 2012

The cops charged this poor woman with a misdemeanor:

“This really is a criminal trespass, resisting arrest incident, and that’s fairly routine here.”

“There’s nothing really out of the ordinary about it.”


Li was arrested and charged with two misdemeanors. She is scheduled to return to court in January.


Raw Story (http://s.tt/1wJPN)

 

november3rd

(1,113 posts)
33. Evil
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 05:37 PM
Dec 2012

I can see how cops might need to protect themselves with tasers in some situations, but they overdo it all the time.

Neutrino_603

(33 posts)
34. Disgusting police behavior
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 05:39 PM
Dec 2012

Two large policemen pin her to floor:
[link:[link:www.wmur.com/news/nh-news/Woman-in-stun-gun-incident-says-she-doesn-t-speak-English/-/9857858/17748484/-/fmn3oh/-/index.html||

fairly routine,nothing out of the ordinary... a disgrace.

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