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Police in Nashua, New Hampshire say they were forced to use a Taser on a 44-year-old Chinese woman who does not speak English after she was told to leave an Apple Store because she was trying to buy too many iPhones.
Through a translator, Xiaojie Li told WMUR that she had bought two iPhones from the Pheasant Lane Mall Apple Store on Friday and returned on Tuesday to buy more to send to her family in China.
The manager of the Apple Store came and told her something, but she didnt understand, Lis daughter explained.
"Soon after that, shoppers captured cell phone video of police who were providing security at the stores request using a stun gun on Li as she laid on the mall floor screaming.
My mom said she doesnt know why they called the police because she doesnt understand what they are talking about, the womans daughter insisted to WMUR.
Nashua police are reviewing the incident to determine if excessive force was used, but said that use of the Taser was standard operating procedure.
She was certainly capable of coming up here and purchasing these things from the Apple Store here, Capt. Bruce Hansen insisted. Whether her language inhibited that, I really dont know.
Our force continuum has specific times when a Taser is used during resisting arrest or that type of an incident where a person doesnt comply with a lawful order to submit to an arrest, he added. This really is a criminal trespass, resisting arrest incident, and thats fairly routine here.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/12/12/new-hampshire-police-taser-chinese-woman-who-tried-to-buy-too-many-iphones/
CBGLuthier
(12,723 posts)Just part of the joy of buying apple products I guess. Me, I like companies that let me do things with what i buy and don't have me tased when I try to buy more.
Oh well.
Fanboys alight.
still_one
(92,273 posts)it points to excessive force.
sandyshoes17
(657 posts)It said its used for resisting arrest or failure to submit to arrest. Why was she going to be arrested??
still_one
(92,273 posts)leftynyc
(26,060 posts)trying to get her to leave the store and she didn't understand.
DaniDubois
(154 posts)let the woman read it in her language. Were the police not smart enough to do it this way, or did they just not want to? Either way it's a bad sign for all of us. They should only be allowed to use excessive force when their lives are in danger - same law the rest of us live by.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)MrYikes
(720 posts)still_one
(92,273 posts)siligut
(12,272 posts)It has to do with market-share. IIRC, you can't bring IPhones to China to sell, but I am not sure where gifting them would fall. So perhaps what she was doing is illegal. I agree though that tasering her was unnecessary.
still_one
(92,273 posts)mainer
(12,022 posts)The illegality, I'd think, would be with the Chinese government and imports, not with the US government.
Canadians used to cross into the US all the time to buy things at cheaper prices. We didn't limit what they could purchase.
siligut
(12,272 posts)I am not sure. What I know is that when I was in China in 2010, my IPhone 4 got a lot of attention and I was told about the pricing then. That is where my impression is from. I was only trying to understand why that dear, Chinese woman was treated so horribly by police and APPL employees. I don't know the actual facts about import laws.
jsr
(7,712 posts)still_one
(92,273 posts)jsr
(7,712 posts)And no, the cop is scum. "Nothing out of the ordinary," my ass.
still_one
(92,273 posts)lapislzi
(5,762 posts)Providing store security. Apple stores get very, very crowded. I have never been to the mall and *not* seen the Apple store mobbed with people. But I have never seen a police presence in one. Maybe mall security outside the store when a new product is released, just to keep the line orderly.
Why police presence was required instead of store or mall security is another matter.
leftstreet
(36,109 posts)That's fucked up
But retailers don't like paying for private security, or the huge loss from lawsuits that follow
lapislzi
(5,762 posts)And I agree that it's fucked up.
Edited to add: this story still stinks.
HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)forestpath
(3,102 posts)lapislzi
(5,762 posts)Has anyone reading this story noted the time/event lapse between the woman entering the store and speaking to the employee/manager and the tasering? What happened?
How do we know/who says she was "trying to buy too many iPhones?" That makes no sense.
There is absolutely no context between her exchange with store personnel and the arrest. What did the manager say? Was the manager so dense that he/she didn't realize that the customer could not communicate in English? Where was the daughter? What the heck? On the floor screaming? Before or after the tasering?
Something is not right in this story.
mainer
(12,022 posts)So does that mean she'd already paid for them online? I'd get pretty peeved if I couldn't collect a product I'd ordered online.
datasuspect
(26,591 posts)hivemind drones finger fucking devices into oblivion.
Occulus
(20,599 posts)"Nashua police are reviewing the incident to determine if excessive force was used, but said that use of the Taser was standard operating procedure."
Standard operating procedure? The use of a device upon those not even actually arrested yet, a device known to "oops" and occasionally kill those it's used on, is standard operating procedure?
datasuspect
(26,591 posts)we put up with it, we get what we deserve.
if people got up off their asses, stopped getting distracted by consumer electronics and television, and FORCE the government to be afraid of the PEOPLE, we wouldn't have these problems.
law enforcement should always have the consent of those who are policed.
right now, it's all strong arm bullshit with the threat of arrest to keep everyone in compliance.
frylock
(34,825 posts)datasuspect
(26,591 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)however, that is not what the article stated. it explicitly says "...police who were providing security at the stores request..." not off-duty police officers working for a private security agency.
datasuspect
(26,591 posts)dunno.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)saying something like, Only 2 iphones per customer?
Usually when quantities are limited, there are signs about that.
There is something off about this story.
GiaGiovanni
(1,247 posts)The cops charged this poor woman with a misdemeanor:
This really is a criminal trespass, resisting arrest incident, and thats fairly routine here.
Theres nothing really out of the ordinary about it.
Li was arrested and charged with two misdemeanors. She is scheduled to return to court in January.
Raw Story (http://s.tt/1wJPN)
november3rd
(1,113 posts)I can see how cops might need to protect themselves with tasers in some situations, but they overdo it all the time.
Neutrino_603
(33 posts)Two large policemen pin her to floor:
[link:[link:www.wmur.com/news/nh-news/Woman-in-stun-gun-incident-says-she-doesn-t-speak-English/-/9857858/17748484/-/fmn3oh/-/index.html||
fairly routine,nothing out of the ordinary... a disgrace.